[brunogal]

Originally Posted by Mark Letti

USA population 330,000,000 divided by 200,000= 0.0006% of the population in USA have died of COVID.... and of those who died a high % are over 60 years old...
I’m sorry but those numbers do not require a shout down of our economy and lives.

Or you can look at it this way: USA has 4.2% of the world's population but 20% of the world's Covid deaths thus far, the highest of any country. Not proud.

[T186021]

Cover 19 is real, death due 2 and related 2 Covid 19 is real, The US reactions and responses to the pandemic is unacceptable for a country with our resources. Can we please do 1 thing correctly related 2 Covid 19.

WEAR A MASK AND SOCIAL DISTANCING WHEN IN PUBLIC!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by loribellitt

Or you can look at it this way: USA has 4.2% of the world's population but 20% of the world's Covid deaths thus far, the highest of any country. Not proud.

OK, so what would you have done differently? Ignore Fauci and Birx??? Create a panic with gloom and doom talk??? Use psychic ability to know the facts about the virus before they were discovered? Even Monday morning quarterbacking is difficult with this one.

There are many reasons for the US to have a higher percentage of deaths---mobile population, genetically diverse, frontier mentality, distrust of authority---pick one or more.

[JimJohnson]

Originally Posted by PugMom

ok, just hear me out, please: we know the fl board of health messed up many results, we also know the 'cases' they are finding aren't all 'active infections,' they are looking for anti-bodies, per attendant in covid testing line. it is my assumption, yes assumption, that many are counting the positive anti-body results as active infections. it depends on who you ask.
there was a line of over 30 cars ystrday @ walgreens on kristine way. i doubt everyone in the cars were 'sick', they did not appear to be. it's the constant use of misinformation that causes many like myself to question what is posed in the news. OR you could just say, 'i'm wearing the new Pelosi style blow-out mask', it's there, you just can't see it,

I wish you were right, but your not. The best and most accurate responses to this thread have been from GraceGirl. She is correct, Nonpartisan and clearly understands Covid 19 and it’s danger to all ages and all states of health!!!! Thank you GracieGirl.

[donaviv]

We are the the largest free society in the world. We have many INDEPENDENT thinkers . Many never wore a mask or washed their hands. The president had many protective services that kept people at a distance. Most of us had to depend on our FELLOW man ( thus..the problem!) to follow some easy guidelines. Only a fool can think that the nations businesses could remain closed for months on end and not have ENORMOUS financial crisis and closures. We are free and that means there is always a risk. But...I'll take our way of life over any dictatorial government planning my life!

[jjombrello]

It's because the numbers are inflated. They include those who died with Covid but from other causes. Should only be those that died from Covid to be a true account. A big difference!

[jebartle]

Originally Posted by Beyond The Wall

If 50,000 had not died in Ny and NJ the stats are more in line with rest of the world. More importantly or freedoms allow us to travel and interact more. The blame should be squarely on China. They knew it was a highly contagious disease. They quantified their travel to their cities BUY allowed citizens to travel out! Simply a bio attack on the world

Sooooo, China is responsible for OUR REVOLVING DOOR???? Hmmmm!

[Miguel 1952]

Originally Posted by T186021

How can the US have 5% of the world population but 20% of the deaths related to Covid? We have failed to protect our population from the pandemic. How did our country become so anti-science during this world wide health crisis?

Money! The insurance companies and government are paying for Covid deaths.

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

OK, so what would you have done differently? Ignore Fauci and Birx??? Create a panic with gloom and doom talk??? Use psychic ability to know the facts about the virus before they were discovered? Even Monday morning quarterbacking is difficult with this one.

There are many reasons for the US to have a higher percentage of deaths---mobile population, genetically diverse, frontier mentality, distrust of authority---pick one or more.

Thank you for your knowledgeable and sensible posts. I believe no one had any idea about this virus in the beginning and everyone was just guessing. I’ll go with frontier mentality.

[chet2020]

200,000 deaths is no big deal. It's only old people and sick people dying. We would have died anyway. No reason for anyone in The VIllages to worry. "It affects virtually nobody" according the man in charge, best to downplay it. We old people should "take one for the team." Besides, the 200,000 number is not real. There are 200,000+ excess deaths this year, but that's a coincidence. It's just the flu. Best to continue on our current path, we're a model to the world. /S

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by chet2020

200,000 deaths is no big deal. It's only old people and sick people dying. We would have died anyway. No reason for anyone in The VIllages to worry. "It affects virtually nobody" according the man in charge, best to downplay it. We old people should "take one for the team." Besides, the 200,000 number is not real. There are 200,000+ excess deaths this year, but that's a coincidence. It's just the flu. Best to continue on our current path, we're a model to the world. /S

Love your sarcasm. We have ceased being a model to anyone, and are now the butt of jokes...as with any disoriented third world country.

I hear so much going through our capital that I won't repeat, but it is plain scary...the plans being made and such. Some news outlets are hinting and reporting, but not something to repeat unless validated beyond what I hear, but it is some scary stuff.

The cultist will be part.

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Did you hear how it was described to POTUS in late January/early February by intelligence. POTUS recollection.....this is the biggest national security threat you will see ever. His words...and it is much stronger than any flue, and it travels in the air.

In public, he continued to downplay, and even said "it will dissipate by April" knowing that was a lie. His comments about it traveling by air was to continually, and still, mock that effort, while refusing to set an example.

Just a few examples of opportunities to perhaps save lives, squandered, all the while not hiding his making it about politics.

This is not Monday morning quarterbacking...it is simply using his own words and showing the deceit used by his office.

Your assumption is desperate and defies logic. We have been without guidance from our lead from the beginning.

Joining in booing that Lt. Gov for wearing a mask, yelling how it basically effects nobody is not leadership....it is a game show move.

But are we actually saving lives or are we just delaying the deaths? The places that locked down did see their numbers go down but now they are going back up. Science still does not fully understand this virus.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Art cov

It’s sad that New York n New Jersey had 1/4 of all deaths. Nursing homes, homeless, prisoners had the greatest of numbers. I remember when they told us maybe 2.4 million may die. Glad that didn’t happen! We won’t know exactly as they have changed, and predicted lots of crazy things. Covid has shown we Americans are gullible on so many fronts. However it’s a tragedy if only one person has passed because of this Covid 19. One thing for sure I believe we are more mindful of washing hands, wiping down grocery cart handles and so on. You can think of many changes that possibly you have made. Did Covid come from China, a lab, a bat, bad oysters off the Asian coast? Many tested positive (many times) and some tested positive and were never tested. Every crazy thought and idea came out of this C 19. It has changed the world on so many fronts. Even I had thoughts of living on a cruise ship for months on end lol. To travel the world and be pampered for life! Lol I surely haven’t thought of that Wild idea lately. Let us who found disagreements through all this get back to being kind again to all and enjoy our last years on this great earth that God created. Hopefully C 19 will be behind us soon and normalcies prevail.

Yes, that would be a nice HOPE, but the reality is different. In the US, CV cases are UP 15% in the last 10 days. There are 200,000 DEAD and most medical scientists expect that to double to 400,000 DEAD by Dec 31, 2020. Meanwhile, in Japan, S. Korea, Australia, and New Zealand, CV is practically non-existant and life is normal. Why are they so smart? They believe in science. Science tells them to wear masks. Unlike the US, they listen to their scientists and leaders. They do NOT have a "cowboy mentality" throughout society. It is all about masks and mentality. We should have been ssssoooo much better! And you can forget that vaccine that is riding in on some white horse. The medical scientists say that masks are better than a vaccine.

[Aloha1]

Amazed that this thread is still up with all the partisan sniping. We have one group brow beating the other, insisting that only they are right. We have another group arguing that the first group is wrong and won't listen to "the facts". In the middle are a few voices of reason. Conclusion: This thread is going nowhere fast and at best appears to catharsis for some.

My take is very simple, do the right thing to protect yourself and your loved ones. Wear a mask, wash your hands, and stay out of crowds. You do not need to listen to ANY politician or the media, just use common sense assuming that still exists.

This too shall pass as so many pandemics have before. Be a role model for others in the meantime.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by BryanTheGolfPro

Follow the money. If someone dies with heart disease, diabetes, stroke, etc. and they also have the China Virus, hospitals report the cause of death as the China Virus. Why? Because they get reimbursed more. Not so in other countries. FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!

That is rediculous. That "downplaying" gets MORE people KILLED!