[amexsbow]

It has been reported recently that Congressman Ben Dover has proposed passing a bill called "Reshaping America from behind." The Bill would require all citizens to attend training for the proper response to Government edicts. A position paper has been prepared and enforcement will be led by a new
Federal Agency which will have to ability to force compliance by any means necessary.

[carhirsch]

Bingo

[stanley]

Originally Posted by amexsbow

It has been reported recently that Congressman Ben Dover has proposed passing a bill called "Reshaping America from behind." The Bill would require all citizens to attend training for the proper response to Government edicts. A position paper has been prepared and enforcement will be led by a new
Federal Agency which will have to ability to force compliance by any means necessary.

I see what you did there

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by amexsbow

It has been reported recently that Congressman Ben Dover has proposed passing a bill called "Reshaping America from behind." The Bill would require all citizens to attend training for the proper response to Government edicts. A position paper has been prepared and enforcement will be led by a new
Federal Agency which will have to ability to force compliance by any means necessary.

Thank you sir, may I have another?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Solution:
They have about perfected an instant COVID test that will be sold over the counter. If you want proof that I am safe, hand me one of those and I will gladly indulge you for a minute before advising you to mind your own business and to social distance somewhere else. I am an Independent and thus, need no gov nanny or little tattletalers interfering in my business. If that excites you, then I suggest retiring to your safe room with all your little stuffed animals. About the only reaction to someone that I do not know falling ill is "that's a shame." If I am not infected, then I have no need to satisfy some weak minded and dependent whiner's whims. You should assume that a person that is out and about is safe, not infected. There is no reason to believe that everyone you see is infected. If my rather blunt nature bothers you, then that is totally on you.

And a little side note to unnamed poster that insisted on using "what would Jesus do?" Jesus would not be wearing a mask. He would be healing the BELIEVERS. I might also mention that believers are quoted in the Bible as being able to handle poisonous serpents and drink poison and survive. Best not to attempt to use someone's beliefs to win at a discussion. No matter how you frame your response, you can be right or you can be wrong. We are expressing our opinions.

Superheroes that are super independent of all earthly social bounds, might consider living on a frontier in Alaska or Siberia. CV has clarified the idea that we are ALL dependent on each other AND our government We ALL need Science and medicine to help us to stay ALIVE. And we NEED help from our fellow man/woman. And we NEED to give help - like a simple thing like wearing a mask AND by modeling to others the wearing of masks. Those that dislike government involvement and "so-called" overreach are just begging that same government that MUST protect its citizens to step in and requires something (Mask-wearing and CDC guidelines), which is exactly what those same people DON'T want. Funny how that works!

Ask Not what the country can do for you - what can YOU do for the country in this trying pandemic? Wonder if John F. Kennedy would model mask-wearing?

[NoMoSno]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Superheroes that are super independent of all earthly social bounds, might consider living on a frontier in Alaska or Siberia. CV has clarified the idea that we are ALL dependent on each other AND our government We ALL need Science and medicine to help us to stay ALIVE. And we NEED help from our fellow man/woman. And we NEED to give help - like a simple thing like wearing a mask AND by modeling to others the wearing of masks. Those that dislike government involvement and "so-called" overreach are just begging that same government that MUST protect its citizens to step in and requires something (Mask-wearing and CDC guidelines), which is exactly what those same people DON'T want. Funny how that works!

Ask Not what the country can do for you - what can YOU do for the country in this trying pandemic? Wonder if John F. Kennedy would model mask-wearing?

Yet our government is allowing thousands of illegal immigrants to cross the southern border daily with no testing, contact tracing, or vaccinations and bringing in the deadly brazilian varient you speak of.
They don't seem to be protecting it's citizens very well.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Works the other way around also. I believe what I know is true, therefore I will act according. If anyone has a problem with that, they can complain to someone that might give a ------------ (you can fill in the blank). Like I said, someone's theory does not make it true. I would rather go on years of testing, than some political medical expert's OPINION or guess. Just because he has no studies to prove his theory does not make someone else's experience and years of testing wrong.

My T shirt will say "VACCINATED, but still stay away from me." Not my fault if you violate my personal space and find out that you are right and I am wrong. It will all be on you. Consider it a "No Trespassing" sign.

Don't think that my kind and giving nature means that I am a door mat.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to know the FACTS about CV because the Virus is MUTATING. It is a fluid SITUATION, which takes constant research and flexible updates and a flexible audience for that information. As far as a "kind and giving nature"......Oh Lordy, Lordy......bite that tongue that feeds you.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

1) Priorities, priorities. You don't stick your head out the window to check the weather after the tornado hits. It's fine to test for COVID, but not while a patient may be bleeding out

2) How many hospitals have you run??? Since I only ran one, you may have me beat

Are we talking "puppy dog" hospitals? I like those. They are cute!

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

1) Priorities, priorities. You don't stick your head out the window to check the weather after the tornado hits. It's fine to test for COVID, but not while a patient may be bleeding out

2) How many hospitals have you run??? Since I only ran one, you may have me beat

Was that one the Nassau County Medical Center?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Did Sam's Club allow this guy to remain in the store without a mask? They should have escorted him out if he refused to wear a mask.

I agree! if wearing a mask fogs his glasses, he should wear contact lenses.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I know you are just joshin'.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I agree with this POV. I refuse to protect an anti-vaxxer by having to wear a mask. It is their choice not to be vaccinated and at any given point in time that the vaccine is available to anyone who wants the vaccine, that is when my mask comes off for good.

To those who can not be vaccinated for a medical issue, I feel it is up to the individual at that point to protect themselves when out and about in public. That is when N95 masks should be used for protection of the wearer. Also, those who can not be vaccinated for medical issues should be responsible for themselves to keep their distance from others. If not going to crowded events, then that is what they must do to protect themselves.

Call me selfish if you feel I'm selfish. All I can say is I have adhered 100% to CDC guidelines ever since this pandemic began and I look forward to going through life without having to cover my face and socially distance from others. That time is not here yet but I will wait patiently to hear from our experts when that time is here.

Dr. Fauci said, "by Christmas". He also said that it is difficult to predict with quantitative accuracy exactly when. And the Virus is NOT stopping evolving just because some people have gotten their shots. It is a fluid situation.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

They were listed as pneumonia if the person had pneumonia. People don't usually die directly from influenza (or COVID). They die from pneumonia, or sepsis, or CHF



It's a one off story. It doesn't explain the hundreds of people I've seen driving alone with a mask

Thank you for responding to me. I understand the scenario I gave you was a one off. But.....what do you think if that scenario was a reality?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by amexsbow

It has been reported recently that Congressman Ben Dover has proposed passing a bill called "Reshaping America from behind." The Bill would require all citizens to attend training for the proper response to Government edicts. A position paper has been prepared and enforcement will be led by a new
Federal Agency which will have to ability to force compliance by any means necessary.

Do you think there will be a bill for Reshaping My Behind in America? Hope so.

[NoMoSno]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Superheroes that are super independent of all earthly social bounds, might consider living on a frontier in Alaska or Siberia. CV has clarified the idea that we are ALL dependent on each other AND our government We ALL need Science and medicine to help us to stay ALIVE. And we NEED help from our fellow man/woman. And we NEED to give help - like a simple thing like wearing a mask AND by modeling to others the wearing of masks. Those that dislike government involvement and "so-called" overreach are just begging that same government that MUST protect its citizens to step in and requires something (Mask-wearing and CDC guidelines), which is exactly what those same people DON'T want. Funny how that works!

Ask Not what the country can do for you - what can YOU do for the country in this trying pandemic? Wonder if John F. Kennedy would model mask-wearing?

Originally Posted by NoMoSno

Yet our government is allowing thousands of illegal immigrants to cross the southern border daily with no testing, contact tracing, or vaccinations and bringing in the deadly Brazilian variant you speak of.
They don't seem to be protecting its citizens very well.

What no response to my post?