[RMarkland]

Originally Posted by John41

It’s decriminalized to steal up to $950. However if the store owner shoots the robber he will be prosecuted.

Heard on the news the number was $1,000.00 probably increased due to "inflation"

[G.R.I.T.S.]

Originally Posted by Toymeister

My daughter lives there. She doesn't consider it bad overall. I am not questioning her thought process but I do try to understand why she feels that way. I have concluded:

She likes her income

Some areas are "better" than others

She has empathy for the homeless

She enjoys the weather

The overall atmosphere in California teaches you to accept this sort of behavior

She has far less living history of not accepting public homelessness, drug use, urination, and prostitution than I do.

She is probably like many of the residents of California.

❄️ Like mine.😂

[manaboutown]

'''Their hands are tied''': San Francisco locals demand change to stop brazen crime | Fox News

[G.R.I.T.S.]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

Can you shoplift up to $900. in San Francisco and not be arrested?

Cheap Christmas presents?

[BlackhawksFan]

It's probably the delineation between felony and misdemeanor. I think you'd get arrested for less.

Like here let's say you go to Belk and stuff a bunch of costume jewelry down your pants and LP grabs you. Depending on the dollar value it's either felony or misdemeanor and while I don't recall the total its way less than $900 and you're getting booked. You also get a no trespass summons which I believe is good for three years.

[GOLFER54]

I read that you can steal up to $950 of merchandise and if caught the charge is a misdemeanor, like a traffic ticket. How ridiculous is that. Walgreens and other chains have closed a lot of their stores. I thought stealing is a crime, as well as one of the 10 Commandments.. THOU SHALL NOT STEAL ! Only in California would this be acceptable.

[jbartle1]

Place of birth. Visited 20 years ago. So sad city has homeless problem. Just like everything, hopefully they will figure out solution.

[Vermilion Villager]

O....M....G!!!!! So I read the first 15 replies then stopped. Not one subsequent post challenged the validity of the original post, and not one offered a post to confirm post #1 was total BS! You all were told something you wanted to hear and ran with it.......Classic definition of Sheep or Sheeple!!!!

[bilcon]

One of the greatest cities we visited in the 1980's. We walked from one end to another, rode the street cars, walked to China Town and back to the hotel at night. The Fisherman's Wharf was great to have a walk-a-way treat. We visited great bars and restaurants like Lord Jims, Henry's Africa and Lefty Odouls. Glad we saw it before it went down the toilet. Whoops, sorry, they don't use toilets, they use the sidewalk.

[ChiefDMM]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

Can you shoplift up to $900. in San Francisco and not be arrested?

I am one of the thousands of people escaping California and lived very close to SF. I can attest that SF is an absolute ****hole! The elected officials continue to enact their liberal policies which promote homelessness, drug use and criminal activity. Last time I visited SF I literally had to step around sleeping homeless people and dodge human feces on the sidewalks. I’m not insensitive to the homelessness crisis in California but I have watched the problem increase exponentially. Same applies to all west coast states. The reason? We pay them to come here and do not allow law enforcement to enforce the laws of the people. Perfect recipe for the continued degeneration of the quality of life in California. One of many reasons why I bolted.

Feel free to visit, but you definitely don’t want to live there. Spend your money there. The government will just turn around and use it to buy syringes for drug addicts to shoot up under their supervision. Think I’m kidding? Look it up. That really happens.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

O....M....G!!!!! So I read the first 15 replies then stopped. Not one subsequent post challenged the validity of the original post, and not one offered a post to confirm post #1 was total BS! You all were told something you wanted to hear and ran with it.......Classic definition of Sheep or Sheeple!!!!

I don't think Post No. 1 is BS. All it said was that you will not be arrested. Shoplifting less than $950 is a misdemeanor, but the news reports have said that the current police policy in San Francisco is to not make an arrest for a misdemeanor. So, what is BS about the post?

[xcaligirl]

Originally Posted by Seamus6

I am glad I finally visited SF in 2016 on my way to Hawaii for a cruise, it wasn't AS bad then as I hear things are now. I also visited LA on the way back and got to celebrate in November 2016 before getting on my plane the next day.

I am looking forward to never going back to California. In the unlikely event I go back to Hawaii again, I will stop off in Texas or Puerto Rico instead.

I am a born/raised in CA person, left there in 2014 for FL and will NEVER move back there. San Francisco was bad (not as bad as now) back in the early 2000's. A friend of mine lived and worked in the city, she was killed leaving the office at noon to go grab something for lunch. Like many other cities, I would even go by myself to thye city for a day on a weekend, LOVED the place, LOVED CA but I just can't even hardly visit. (haven't been in 3 years due to different situations here). Yes, I do have family there but planes do travel both directions.

[Petersweeney]

Where are their parents?

[Marty94]

Originally Posted by Toymeister

My daughter lives there. She doesn't consider it bad overall. I am not questioning her thought process but I do try to understand why she feels that way. I have concluded:

She likes her income

Some areas are "better" than others

She has empathy for the homeless

She enjoys the weather

The overall atmosphere in California teaches you to accept this sort of behavior

She has far less living history of not accepting public homelessness, drug use, urination, and prostitution than I do.

She is probably like many of the residents of California.

My niece lives in SF and feels the same. She lives in her Google owned building, boards her Google owned bus and goes to her Google job where she gets 3 square meals and fresh air breaks to bicycle the compound. She still loves it there.

I don’t know the laws in SF to weigh in on the OP’s question. Sorry.

[ithos]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

O....M....G!!!!! So I read the first 15 replies then stopped. Not one subsequent post challenged the validity of the original post, and not one offered a post to confirm post #1 was total BS! You all were told something you wanted to hear and ran with it.......Classic definition of Sheep or Sheeple!!!!

How many articles from mainstream papers( I think of them as liberal but giving them them benefit of the doubt) do you need to read before you snap out of your denial.

Several people who have lived there have confirmed the breakdown of law and order in CA.
Check this article out from 2018

Medical group cancels San Francisco convention due to homeless crisis - Curbed SF

Tough Love would be to take the drug addicts off the street and into a treatment program and incarcerate them if they refuse to stop camping in public areas.
It would be cheaper than the $60,000 tents.

Spending $60,000 on tents, San Francisco evinces government failure