[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Oh well, I have my opinion and others have theirs. It's no excuse when I say it is not my responsibility to make you feel safe. Kind of like those that think that it is up to the wealthy to pay more taxes than others because if they don't, they are being selfish. I don't need to make excuses for how I feel, because I consider myself right..
I do find it interesting that some folks think that appearances and what other folks think of them is important.
Let me make this clear. It is selfish for anyone else to think that it is my responsibility to prevent them from catching a virus, flu or cold. If you feel vulnerable, then protect yourself.

You are missing the point of what is being asked of us by the experts. We Americans need to wear masks to slow the spread of the virus. Slowing the spread of this virus will help our economy recover. It is really a simple concept.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

Is the guy supposed to check the masks for quality and is he also supposed to bust the people who are not wearing them properly? If I've got a cart full of groceries and the ear strap on my mask suddenly snaps and I can't wear my mask anymore, should I continue on to the checkout or should I immediately leave the store before Bruno tackles me and shoves me out?

There is just way too much vagueness out there and I don't think that businesses should be responsible for policing that nonsense. There is no completely safe, risk free way for an immune compromised person to be in a crowded venue. That is why it's important for the high risk people weigh the risk/rewards for themselves.

One layer of paper towel blocks droplets so cloth does a great job of blocking droplets. I've checked using a water spritzer and gave those Bounty paper towels a really good dose of water. I have also checked every cloth mask I have purchased and every one has passed that test with flying colors. As for making sure people wear their masks properly.....that shouldn't be difficult to do at all.

[Gulfcoast]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

An asymptomtic person can be just as contagious as a symptomatic person. The mask wearing symptomatic person is safer to be around than the asymptomatic person not wearing a mask.

A symptomatic person with a mask on can still spread the virus to you. It's a fallacy to think that those masks are 100% protective because they are not. They offer minimal protection and a false sense of security.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

A symptomatic person with a mask on can still spread the virus to you. It's a fallacy to think that those masks are 100% protective because they are not. They offer minimal protection and a false sense of security.

Protection is more than minimal when everyone wears a mask. Have you heard about the two hair dressers who tested positive and worked on 140 customers? All customers and the two hair dressers wore masks and NONE of the customers tested positive. Those are pretty good odds IMHO.

[Gulfcoast]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Protection is more than minimal when everyone wears a mask. Have you heard about the two hair dressers who tested positive and worked on 140 customers? All customers and the two hair dressers wore masks and NONE of the customers tested positive. Those are pretty good odds IMHO.

The hairdressers were probably asymptomatic or very mildly symptomatic when they worked on the customers.

Had they been coughing/hacking into their homemade masks they likely would have spread the virus.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

The hairdressers were probably asymptomatic or very mildly symptomatic when they worked on the customers.

Had they been coughing/hacking into their homemade masks they likely would have spread the virus.

Had the hairdressers been coughing /hacking into their homemade masks, they would not have been working on customers. What customer would sit so close to someone who was coughing and hacking? Certainly not me.

One of the main problems and reason for the spread of this virus is the existence of asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic carriers. They are the reason why we can not get a handle on the spread of the virus. The only way, besides an effective vaccine, to get the spread of this virus to slow down is to wear masks and social distance. Why is it so difficult to follow the science and listen the pleading of our experts. Our surgeon general has put out a desperate plea to Americans to wear masks. Americans are showing the world that we are spoiled and don't want to be told what to do and I'm embarrassed for how we look to the rest of the world. It is not a good look for us.

[SouthJerseyGirl]

You cannot enter any store up north without a mask - which is why the numbers have decreased. FL is not smart at all.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by SouthJerseyGirl

You cannot enter any store up north without a mask - which is why the numbers have decreased. FL is not smart at all.

Are the stores able to enforce mask wearing? Any fights or arguments from people who are not willing to wear a mask while in those stores? I'm concerned about confrontations. I've seen some here on the news and it is frightening to see an older man falling to the floor in a scuffle because he refuses to put on a mask. (one example). It is frightening to see a woman cough in someone's face because she was berated for not wearing a mask. These situations are happening here.

Is it a different mind set up north when mask wearing is mandated by the government? I surely hope so. The best thing to bring this virus under control is for DeSantis to mandate mask wearing.

[Velvet]

I think it is mask phobia, you have to understand phobia in the first place. I used to think it was just vanity although most people look better in masks especially older people, but now I’m starting to realize it is a full blown phobia.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Oh well, I have my opinion and others have theirs. It's no excuse when I say it is not my responsibility to make you feel safe. Kind of like those that think that it is up to the wealthy to pay more taxes than others because if they don't, they are being selfish. I don't need to make excuses for how I feel, because I consider myself right..
I do find it interesting that some folks think that appearances and what other folks think of them is important.
Let me make this clear. It is selfish for anyone else to think that it is my responsibility to prevent them from catching a virus, flu or cold. If you feel vulnerable, then protect yourself.

Never served did you?

[Byte1]

Being around someone that is infected does not guarantee that you are going to become infected. And you do NOT get the virus off of your mail. You do not get the virus from prepared food. Keeping yourself safe is YOUR responsibility ONLY. It is not mine. Most of the people that become infected do not even get treated, and most of the ones that do get treated recover. A very small percentage of folks infected die from it. From what I have heard, you cannot become immune to it without being exposed to it in some manner. Just stay 6 feet away from others and you don't need to worry. Only seven infected in the Villages portion of Sumter county have died. Wear your mask if you wish. Don't wear your mask if you wish. Either way is not bothering me. You can blame me all you want for your hysterical stress, but that is your problem, not mine. Do not think that you can make it mine, because unless there is a law making me do something, I do it on my own volition. Shaming someone is just another form of bullying, and I don't get bullied so you are wasting your time. I will say this one more time, I wear a homemade fabric mask when I go shopping. I do it because I chose to. As far as I am concerned it is a moot effort because I doubt anyone that I come near could infect me even if they had the virus. The chances of bumping into an exposed person in The Villages is? The chances of bumping into an infected person in The Villages and also becoming infected is? Since I only go shopping about once a week, the chances of bumping into an infected person once a week and also getting infected in The Villages is? See what I am saying? Like I said before, mass hysteria. BUT, I am glad that you all are concerned about yourselves and supposedly others. And be careful at the golf course, because the chances of you getting hit by a golf ball and killed is higher than you getting infected by someone in the Villages, while shopping.

Originally Posted by Byte1

Being around someone that is infected does not guarantee that you are going to become infected. And you do NOT get the virus off of your mail. You do not get the virus from prepared food. Keeping yourself safe is YOUR responsibility ONLY. It is not mine. Most of the people that become infected do not even get treated, and most of the ones that do get treated recover. A very small percentage of folks infected die from it. From what I have heard, you cannot become immune to it without being exposed to it in some manner. Just stay 6 feet away from others and you don't need to worry. Only seven infected in the Villages portion of Sumter county have died. Wear your mask if you wish. Don't wear your mask if you wish. Either way is not bothering me. You can blame me all you want for your hysterical stress, but that is your problem, not mine. Do not think that you can make it mine, because unless there is a law making me do something, I do it on my own volition. Shaming someone is just another form of bullying, and I don't get bullied so you are wasting your time. I will say this one more time, I wear a homemade fabric mask when I go shopping. I do it because I chose to. As far as I am concerned it is a moot effort because I doubt anyone that I come near could infect me even if they had the virus. The chances of bumping into an exposed person in The Villages is? The chances of bumping into an infected person in The Villages and also becoming infected is? Since I only go shopping about once a week, the chances of bumping into an infected person once a week and also getting infected in The Villages is? See what I am saying? Like I said before, mass hysteria. BUT, I am glad that you all are concerned about yourselves and supposedly others. And be careful at the golf course, because the chances of you getting hit by a golf ball and killed is higher than you getting infected by someone in the Villages, while shopping.

Fine, but sad that it will take a law to make many of us do what we should do for one another out of love of our fellow man. And actual science contradicts most of what you say. I would say all, but I can’t find a study comparing the many golf course deaths to the covid-19 deaths.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by JoMar

Never served did you?

Yes. And that means?

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by theruizs

Fine, but sad that it will take a law to make many of us do what we should do for one another out of love of our fellow man. And actual science contradicts most of what you say. I would say all, but I can’t find a study comparing the many golf course deaths to the covid-19 deaths.

They can attempt to make a law that forces everyone to wear a mask but if taken to court it would likely lose. They may be able to get away with it IF they declare Marshal Law. I don't know. I find it kind of ironic that the country wants to defund the police and then ask them to enforce some mask wearing rule. Perhaps they would get Social Services to write citations? How will you enforce it? Perhaps making sure the mask is a certain material and construction? Will it have to be covering the nose and mouth? Will safety glasses be mandated also, because your eyes can absorb the virus. Will gloves be mandated? Who is going to decide when no two doctors agree? Will they force those that have breathing problems to wear masks?
Mask shaming is just another term for bullying. But, in order for either to succeed, one has to be put in fear. Sorry, but that trick does not work on me. Like I said, I wear my homemade fabric mask in businesses when shopping. When this first started, I also wore gloves and safety glasses. I have all of the protective gear. I also have a respirator that is certified to filter out lead when I am stripping lead paint. Much better than N95. I also have a military gas mask that is even better. But, I don't wear that stuff because I have learned enough about the emergency that assures me that the chances of me becoming infected is about a million to one...if even that. If I was you (and as scared) I would wrap myself in plastic wrap or a rain suit to make sure that I am not contaminated by the air.
I have no problem with anyone that wishes to wear a mask. Don't presume to shame me into wearing one just because YOU think (erroneously) that it will save your life. Stay six feet away from me and you will be fine. I breath out of my nose and I do not find it necessary to speak to anyone when I am shopping. I shop and get out of there and am not there to socialize.
Take care of yourselves and quit worrying about what others are doing. You will have less chance of having a stroke or heart attack.
If you make it through this alive then you can attribute it to being safe. If I make it through alive, you can tell everyone that I was LUCKY.
If you don't like how your neighbors are handling this situation, stay home. They are not responsible for your safety.

[tophcfa]

Absolutely. We wouldn’t go into a store that did not.