[Northwoods]

I don't know if this is true or not, but I've seen a few articles stating that the L.A. teachers union says schools can't reopen unless charter schools get shut down and police are defunded.
I'm hoping someone can enlighten me as to how defunding the police will result in schools that are safer from COVID-19.
L.A. Teachers Union: Schools Can’t Reopen Unless Charter Schools Shut Down, Police Defunded | News Break

[Stu from NYC]

Charter schools are doing a better job of teaching our kids and growing rapidly. Some teachers feel threatened so they would like charter schools to go away.

[davem4616]

Originally Posted by Northwoods

I don't know if this is true or not, but I've seen a few articles stating that the L.A. teachers union says schools can't reopen unless charter schools get shut down and police are defunded.
I'm hoping someone can enlighten me as to how defunding the police will result in schools that are safer from COVID-19.
L.A. Teachers Union: Schools Can’t Reopen Unless Charter Schools Shut Down, Police Defunded | News Break

Just read the link in the OP....wow, huge list of demands according to the article

IMHO it just doesn't seem plausible to me

yes, public schools aren't happy that funding that could have gone to them goes to Charter schools...and there are a lot of big cities looking to defund the men in blue

but a teacher's union basically threating a work stoppage for these reasons?....I tend to think not..

this is one of those things that I'd check out on 'snopes.com' before spreading it around

[JoMar]

It's CA

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by JoMar

It's CA

?????

[anothersteve]

Originally Posted by davem4616

Just read the link in the OP....wow, huge list of demands according to the article

IMHO it just doesn't seem plausible to me

yes, public schools aren't happy that funding that could have gone to them goes to Charter schools...and there are a lot of big cities looking to defund the men in blue

but a teacher's union basically threating a work stoppage for these reasons?....I tend to think not..

this is one of those things that I'd check out on 'snopes.com' before spreading it around

Fox, LA Times, NY Post, ABC and more.......all carrying the story. No need for snoops

Steve

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by anothersteve

Fox, LA Times, NY Post, ABC and more.......all carrying the story. No need for snoops

Steve

They have a reason to want distance learning due to the virus, for charter schools no way jose

[davem4616]

Originally Posted by anothersteve

Fox, LA Times, NY Post, ABC and more.......all carrying the story. No need for snoops

Steve

wow...so this is real....unreal!!!!

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by Northwoods

I don't know if this is true or not, but I've seen a few articles stating that the L.A. teachers union says schools can't reopen unless charter schools get shut down and police are defunded.
I'm hoping someone can enlighten me as to how defunding the police will result in schools that are safer from COVID-19.
L.A. Teachers Union: Schools Can’t Reopen Unless Charter Schools Shut Down, Police Defunded | News Break

All that achieves, in practice, is to deny black kids a shot at a quality education. Black lives end up not mattering here thanks to teachers unions.

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[Northwoods]

Originally Posted by TexaninVA

All that achieves, in practice, is to deny black kids a shot at a quality education. Black lives end up not mattering here thanks to teachers unions.

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I wish it was that black and white (seriously... no pun intended.). I don't think the Teacher's Union is slighting any race or nationality. They have their own agenda. And I don't think their #1 priority is children. That's really sad.
I do have a lot of respect for the many teachers I know. But I have no respect for the Teacher's Unions.

[Topspinmo]

Time to bust the teachers unions like the federal government did to air traffic controllers union.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Time to bust the teachers unions like the federal government did to air traffic controllers union.

Very true and so sad that teachers union only cares about its members not the kids they are supposed to be giving an education to/

[mtdjed]

Teachers union pressing to defund Police and ending Charter Schools as a condition for reopening is an indication of their lack of integrity or their belief that in California, that line of thinking works.

The issue of schools reopening relates to COVID-19 which is the reason they are closed. Local taxes (Not the federal government or even the state) pays for public schools. If the Federal Government or State Government provide funds, they set conditions.

If the local government chooses not to open schools, then it is possible that state and US funds may not be available. ie if Federal money is allocated for lunch programs and local government is not opening schools , then that money should not be expected.

If Teachers choose not to work, they should not expect to be paid. Find a new profession, just like Police or anyone else. That is what happens if someone does not want to work where they could be exposed. We should not be expected to pay local taxes to pay salaries of people choosing not to work.

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by mtdjed

Teachers union pressing to defund Police and ending Charter Schools as a condition for reopening is an indication of their lack of integrity or their belief that in California, that line of thinking works.

The issue of schools reopening relates to COVID-19 which is the reason they are closed. Local taxes (Not the federal government or even the state) pays for public schools. If the Federal Government or State Government provide funds, they set conditions.

If the local government chooses not to open schools, then it is possible that state and US funds may not be available. ie if Federal money is allocated for lunch programs and local government is not opening schools , then that money should not be expected.

If Teachers choose not to work, they should not expect to be paid. Find a new profession, just like Police or anyone else. That is what happens if someone does not want to work where they could be exposed. We should not be expected to pay local taxes to pay salaries of people choosing not to work.

For sure .... no work, no pay.


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[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by Northwoods

I don't know if this is true or not, but I've seen a few articles stating that the L.A. teachers union says schools can't reopen unless charter schools get shut down and police are defunded.
I'm hoping someone can enlighten me as to how defunding the police will result in schools that are safer from COVID-19.
L.A. Teachers Union: Schools Can’t Reopen Unless Charter Schools Shut Down, Police Defunded | News Break

This is being reported by several right wing alarmist web sites (as differing from those that do more research and try to play fair), but it seems that most are simply copying whoever wrote first. One web page says the demands are from the National Education Association, but I’ve just checked and found none of these supposed demands. Another says the supposed demands come from UTLA, the United Teachers of Los Angeles, the teachers union. But I can’t find demands of the sort on their web site. They don’t think it’s safe to reopen schools yet, but I find no demands. Their conclusion is based on a research paper they funded. Here is their link to a summary of that paper. The summary doesn’t mention those demands.
https://www.utla.net/sites/default/f...ary1_page_.pdf
Here is their web site: UTLA recommends keeping LAUSD school campuses closed; refocus on robust distance learning practices for Fall | UTLA

The L.A. Times and the N.Y. Times are not reporting these supposed demands in their article about the school district choosing to not reopen this morning.

I conclude, therefore, that the article in your link is not true but is attempting to divide us. I wonder if it is even an American source, but is instead a Russian disinformation source. Russia longs to see us at each other’s throats. United we stand! (I remember being on a train from Moscow to Helsinki in July of 1984. There was a copy of “Pravda” (“Truth” in Russian) in a newspaper rack with a big photo of well-dressed Americans in New York at a taxi stand waiting for a cab. I asked an army officer who spoke English to translate the caption for me. It said, essentially, “Once-prosperous Americans in New York standing in line at a soup kitchen waiting for free food.” So much for truth!)

Thanks for sharing this so we could study it more carefully. This sort of lie spreads like wildfire and makes us hate each other. Put America first and hesitate to believe the lie. Thanks for doing that.