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jbrown132 03-24-2021 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1920252)
I always thought oil and gas prices were set by supply and demand, and not by governments.
In early 2020 oil prices crashed because of the pandemic, when demand was at rock bottom.
Demand has now risen beyond production, so price goes through the roof.
Soon oil producers will step up production to take advantage of the high price, then when the glut of the stuff comes, prices will drop.
It's a never ending cycle.
I don't see anything political in it.

That doesn’t explain why before the pandemic gas was selling for two dollars a gallon. It’s was called energy independent.

OrangeBlossomBaby 03-24-2021 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by J1ceasar (Post 1920283)
So true I'm in the same boat. However that being said they were so many other things wrong with the stimulus package do you know that out of 1.9 trillion dollars only 480 million was actually a stimulus check. If the entire amount was a stimulus check and we each beginning about $5,000 per person. Also I always hear let's make the income tax fair I e raise it for people making more money, well why was this not giving up proportionately to those making less? So that may be those making under $50,000 would get 10,000, those between 50 and 100 we get $5,000, those between 100 and 150,000 we get just $1,000. And if it was so damn important why did it take almost 12 months between the 2nd and 3rd checks, well we really do know why but I can't talk about it on here

The 2nd and 3rd checks took a year because the previous administration felt that was what was needed at the time. Just like they felt that almost $2T was needed to provide massive tax cuts for the wealthy and very successful corporations. You know, the ones they said would save jobs, add millions of new jobs, and provide bonuses to employees. The ones that MOST employees never saw a dime of.

JMintzer 03-24-2021 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1920252)
I always thought oil and gas prices were set by supply and demand, and not by governments.
In early 2020 oil prices crashed because of the pandemic, when demand was at rock bottom.
Demand has now risen beyond production, so price goes through the roof.
Soon oil producers will step up production to take advantage of the high price, then when the glut of the stuff comes, prices will drop.
It's a never ending cycle.
I don't see anything political in it.

Oil production (at least in the US) is most certainly political. The recent EOs banning offshore drilling will decrease production and increase demand.

Decreasing fracking will do the same for Natural Gas prices...

OrangeBlossomBaby 03-24-2021 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mohawksin (Post 1920307)
>> I don't qualify << Since the checks were to go to "everybody" would you please share with us why you don't qualify?

They don't go to everybody. In fact, fewer people qualify this time around, because they lowered the income threshold to qualify. I have to wonder if some of you even took 5 minutes to skim the section summaries of the bill, or if you just bought whatever hyperbolic vomitus some random political correspondent chose to spew into the camera.

SacDQ 03-24-2021 07:34 AM

The money given away is your money. When they create a unheard of amount of spending out of thin air you are handed the bill to cover the cost in INFLATION 💰💰💰

merrymini 03-24-2021 07:40 AM

The government is burying us in debt and sent most of it to clean up the mess is debt ridden states and abroad. Only a small fraction is going to Americans. Disgusting power play.

DeanFL 03-24-2021 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1920358)
They don't go to everybody. In fact, fewer people qualify this time around, because they lowered the income threshold to qualify. I have to wonder if some of you even took 5 minutes to skim the section summaries of the bill, or if you just bought whatever hyperbolic vomitus some random political correspondent chose to spew into the camera.

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Did YOU "even took 5 minutes to skim the section summaries of the bill" to actually see where so much of the $1.9 is REALLY going? Hmm, did you???

On that point, wait until the "Infrastruture Bill" - reportedly going to be $3 TRILLION - will be going to. Two words come to mind. Pork and Earmarks.
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rmd2 03-24-2021 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1920252)
I always thought oil and gas prices were set by supply and demand, and not by governments.
In early 2020 oil prices crashed because of the pandemic, when demand was at rock bottom.
Demand has now risen beyond production, so price goes through the roof.
Soon oil producers will step up production to take advantage of the high price, then when the glut of the stuff comes, prices will drop.
It's a never ending cycle.
I don't see anything political in it.

Did you miss the part about the pipeline and oil independence? That's why gas was $1.88 a year ago.

JanetMM 03-24-2021 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 1920140)
Our stimulus money will put to work a company that installs vinyl floors, a furniture store, and another company to install a new air conditioner. I call that a win-win.

In addition to all that your money will help the company that manufactures the vinyl floor, that makes the furniture, that ships the furniture and on. That is stimulating, isn’t it?

lpkruege1 03-24-2021 08:12 AM

Why is everyone worried about what someone else is getting? Worry more about what other countries are getting and who is going to have to pay this money back.

meridian5850 03-24-2021 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by FG111 (Post 1920132)
I don't qualify and if I did, I'd be ashamed to receive this ill-gotten freebie unless I truly needed it. Many people receiving this stimulus, especially "some" living in The Villages, don't need this money and this freebie will only increase inflation for the rest of us.

We haven't needed any of the stimulus checks, so we decided at the outset to donate to favorite charities, spend it locally, and significantly overtip when dining out. I'm sure a great many of villagers have done the same.

Also, regarding your inflation claim - since the stimulus checks only made up 9% of the spending package, I'm pretty sure the other 91% of that pork spending will affect inflation to a much greater extent.

OrlandoAl 03-24-2021 08:25 AM

I sent a thank you note to my grandchildren for the $2800.

DAVES 03-24-2021 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by FG111 (Post 1920104)
President Biden signed the American Rescue Plan Act on March 11. Provisions in the bill authorize another round of $1,400 stimulus checks for each eligible person ($2,800 for couples).

There are 1000's of couples living in The Villages with a paid-off house, no debt, tons of money in the bank, free paid medical insurance and as long as their gross adjusted yearly income is under $150,000, the couple will receive $2,800 in free US tax dollars. This is on top of the two prior stimulus checks they have received in the past six months.

I honestly believe those folks who need the money should be helped, but this stimulus money was not meant for people who didn't need it and for those people living in The Villages that meet this criteria and don't need the stimulus money are just scamming the rest of us.

There is a tremendous difference between what we are told and REALITY. Checks for lost income due to Corona virus. Retired people here and everywhere, getting checks.
HUH, they are not working. Can't get to work due to corona virus? Pure insanity.

Where is this money coming from-the printing press. Sooner or later people, the world will realize the dollar is a nice print job. The full faith and credit of the United States.
I don't think anyone does not wonder about the full faith and credit of the United States and it's declining value.

Bill14564 03-24-2021 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrown132 (Post 1920344)
That doesn’t explain why before the pandemic gas was selling for two dollars a gallon. It’s was called energy independent.

Was it selling for under $2/gallon?

This chart shows otherwise. I see no reason to doubt its accuracy but if there is a better source of information I would be interested in it.

daddys55 03-24-2021 08:40 AM

Stimulus
 
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Originally Posted by FG111 (Post 1920104)
President Biden signed the American Rescue Plan Act on March 11. Provisions in the bill authorize another round of $1,400 stimulus checks for each eligible person ($2,800 for couples).

There are 1000's of couples living in The Villages with a paid-off house, no debt, tons of money in the bank, free paid medical insurance and as long as their gross adjusted yearly income is under $150,000, the couple will receive $2,800 in free US tax dollars. This is on top of the two prior stimulus checks they have received in the past six months.

I honestly believe those folks who need the money should be helped, but this stimulus money was not meant for people who didn't need it and for those people living in The Villages that meet this criteria and don't need the stimulus money are just scamming the rest of us.

Don't worry with the gas prices and taxes going up you will pay it back ten fold


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