[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy

Sounds like model parents to me. A lot like Rittenhouse’s mother. Who thinks it’s good parenting by taking their underage kid across state lines with an AK15 that he illegally possessed. I’m sure her day in court will come too.

This allegation is defamatory nonsense.These are not the facts which were brought out in the trial.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Bonnevie

that's the argument made after all these shootings. don't look at guns at the cause....but, then what do you propose to tackle the problem of keeping guns out of the hands of these people? are you at least advocating for more funds for school counselors so these kids can be helped before becoming violent?

Looks like kids these days are violent with or without guns or other types of weapons. They can gang up on, for example a bus driver, and use their fists.

Chicago chaos: Public bus driver hospitalized after beaten on street, 21 juveniles arrested | Fox News

https://cwbchicago.com/2021/12/boy-s...nium-park.html

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Looks like kids these days are violent with or without guns or other types of weapons. They can gang up on, for example a bus driver, and use their fists.

Chicago chaos: Public bus driver hospitalized after beaten on street, 21 juveniles arrested | Fox News

https://cwbchicago.com/2021/12/boy-s...nium-park.html

Skate boards are being used quite often to assault someone and they can be a deadly weapon.

[jimbomaybe]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

This allegation is defamatory nonsense.These are not the facts which were brought out in the trial.

Why let facts get in the way of programed opinions ?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by xNYer

Somehow not being for a city and being from a two parent family absolves them of guilt.
We know what you really mean.

We do?

Please enlighten us...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy

Sounds like model parents to me. A lot like Rittenhouse’s mother. Who thinks it’s good parenting by taking their underage kid across state lines with an AK15 that he illegally possessed. I’m sure her day in court will come too.

That would be a terrible parent!

Good thing she never did any of that. You would have know it if you had actually watched the trial, rather than get your news from talking heads with an agenda...

[Bonnevie]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

That would be a terrible parent!

Good thing she never did any of that. You would have know it if you had actually watched the trial, rather than get your news from talking heads with an agenda...

no this is what happened: According to court documents and testimony, Kyle Rittenhouse arrived in Kenosha on his own and went to the protest with a friend who provided him with the gun. The gun was kept at the home of the friend’s stepfather in Kenosha.

and Wendy Rittenhouse told the Chicago Tribune in November that she would have tried to stop her son from going to Kenosha, but she didn’t know where he was or what he was doing.

so she has a 17 year old son who lives at home, and she had no idea he has bought a gun (which a friend bought and stored for him) and had no idea where he was.

I'd say it was a school night, but he had dropped out of high school. so she may not have driven him, but she's hardly the model of a mother.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bonnevie

no this is what happened: According to court documents and testimony, Kyle Rittenhouse arrived in Kenosha on his own and went to the protest with a friend who provided him with the gun. The gun was kept at the home of the friend’s stepfather in Kenosha.

and Wendy Rittenhouse told the Chicago Tribune in November that she would have tried to stop her son from going to Kenosha, but she didn’t know where he was or what he was doing.

so she has a 17 year old son who lives at home, and she had no idea he has bought a gun (which a friend bought and stored for him) and had no idea where he was.

I'd say it was a school night, but he had dropped out of high school. so she may not have driven him, but she's hardly the model of a mother.

I never said she was. I was simply commenting on the erroneous information posted.

I never said a word about what you are commenting on, so I'm not sure why you're directing your comment to me...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bonnevie

well, show me the citation where someone in a school setting killed 4 people with a skateboard, or 17 that were killed in Parkland

the issue is gun shooting in schools that started this discussion. yes, there's other types of violence with teenagers just as there's examples of violence in general (Jan. 6 anyone?)

Most of late spring thru the fall of 2020 anyone?

[Lindsyburnsy]

Dad bought the gun and the kid was with him at the time. Posted pics of himself with the gun stating "my new Christmas present". At that age, a new pair of athletic shoes would have been more appropriate.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy

Dad bought the gun and the kid was with him at the time. Posted pics of himself with the gun stating "my new Christmas present". At that age, a new pair of athletic shoes would have been more appropriate.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

My grandson, now a junior in HS, shot his first buck at age 11yo and his father had the head mounted for display. My children grew up handling firearms and understand firearm safety. I have given my grandson rifles in the past. My daughter has participated in weekend pistol competition, as well as my son-inlaw. My grandkids also operate dirt bikes, ride horses (rescued race type), were active in soccer, basketball, karate and wrestling. If children are taught properly, they are better equipped and mature than many adults. Coddle the kids and the end result is drug overdoses, mass shootings, smash and grab robberies, rapes, etc.

Kyle wished to be a responsible community volunteer. There is something to be said about those that contribute to the community versus those that think that community organizing makes them credible. Regardless of how or when Kyle obtained his rifle, he legally had it on him for protection during rioting and he is alive now because he had it. We need more like him and less like those he was forced to put down.

[Gulfcoast]

I am a staunch supporter of the 2nd amendment but I also think that in cases where it can be proven that there was a cavalier and reckless disregard for the safety of others that a gun owner should be held criminally responsible.

In the case of the Crumbleys I think that the prosecution does, in fact, have evidence that the parents knowingly gave their son access to a gun along with ammunition. They had been notified by the school of their son's google searches for ammo while in class. They had been called into the school on the very day that this incident happened after a teacher discovered a disturbing drawing done by Ethan in class. The parents knew that their kid had access to a weapon but did not tell the school that and they refused to bring their son home with them. Within 2 hours of that meeting their son was shooting up the school.

Yes, the parents should be held accountable for their reckless disregard for the safety of others. They could have prevented this tragedy and they chose not to.

Whether any school officials should be held accountable, too, is a different matter.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

I am a staunch supporter of the 2nd amendment but I also think that in cases where it can be proven that there was a cavalier and reckless disregard for the safety of others that a gun owner should be held criminally responsible.

In the case of the Crumbleys I think that the prosecution does, in fact, have evidence that the parents knowingly gave their son access to a gun along with ammunition. They had been notified by the school of their son's google searches for ammo while in class. They had been called into the school on the very day that this incident happened after a teacher discovered a disturbing drawing done by Ethan in class. The parents knew that their kid had access to a weapon but did not tell the school that and they refused to bring their son home with them. Within 2 hours of that meeting their son was shooting up the school.

Yes, the parents should be held accountable for their reckless disregard for the safety of others. They could have prevented this tragedy and they chose not to.

Whether any school officials should be held accountable, too, is a different matter.

Wrong thread.

[Lindsyburnsy]

Hopefully this will start a new trend, holding parents, or any gun owner accountable if a child gets their hands on the firearm and shoots someone with it. I'm sure that if people had to insure their guns just as auto owners have to, people would be a lot more careful about not leaving firearms unlocked and/or where kids can get them. It is time for gun owners to be held accountable!

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy

Hopefully this will start a new trend, holding parents, or any gun owner accountable if a child gets their hands on the firearm and shoots someone with it. I'm sure that if people had to insure their guns just as auto owners have to, people would be a lot more careful about not leaving firearms unlocked and/or where kids can get them. It is time for gun owners to be held accountable!

Why not hold parents accountable for any crime committed by a child?