[jdulej]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

You mean this guy?

Alex Berenson: The Pandemic's Wrongest Man - The Atlantic

Good grief, no wonder people are so confused if they listen to these "experts". Wake up!

[Escape Artist]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

So, the content is sssooo bogus, sssooo much propaganda by Facebook, Instagram, and the 8 PM TV show on the small, red, wild-dog channel. ( and 10 PM and 11 PM for good (bad) measure)

Don't know what you're rambling about but maybe it's time for your meds. What I stated are indisputable facts. You can still get Covid even though you are fully vaccinated and even if your antibodies have not waned. Two friends of mine got Covid and they got their 2nd shot two months ago.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by justjim

Coffeebean There comes a time when you must just quit debating an issue and let the other party be wrong.

Hope springs eternal in the mind of the righteous!

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Escape Artist

The spike protein cause blood clots because it irritates veins and arteries. It would stand to reason the more shots you get the more you are susceptible. All the other things you mentioned are just scare tactics.

And I hate to break this to you, but it's something you should know by now: the vaccines, any of them, DO NOT prevent infection or transmission. You can still get Covid and its variants and spread it to others. The only thing they do, and not in all cases, is reduce the risk of severe illness and complications which might require hospitalization or result in long-term problems or death.

Wife and I both 80+
We'll settle for that!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Escape Artist

Fired for refusing the Mark of the Beast?

I agree that the contents are FRIGHTENING and sick. I shall start building my terrorist-proof bomb shelter, rapidisimo!

[Escape Artist]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Wife and I both 80+
We'll settle for that!

That's fine, as it's your choice and many feel as you do. Why not minimize the risk? It's logical. However, there are many people who think the vaccines are a panacea and they will not get Covid at all. That is simply not true but because of the government's mandates it SEEMS like it is. And perception is the better part of reality.

They want people to think the vaccines prevent infection and you cannot get Covid. I have family members who thought this very thing and imagine their shock when they got sick and tested positive for Covid.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by tvbound

Hopefully, you're just being facetious in an attempt to be funny? LOL

Some things are so anti-social, and anti-humanity, as to be too sick to be humorous. And completely lacking in anything even close to CLASS - crass is NOT class or funny!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Art cov

The sad thing is that the same logic can be used with pistols and any number of ideas which they want. It just might be a can of worms that all of us will disagree with sooner or later. They can fine us and withdraw our funds with no trouble. Maybe soon we will get speeding tickets on I-75 in the mail or a text. It may say $200 has been withdrawn for doing 70 mph in a 55 On 29 September 2021 at 1842 hours

Gun policy is a separate subject, but Canada is still free while emphasizing long rifles and shotguns for sporting purposes
and home defense - and de-emphasizing "pistols". I would LOVE to have A.I. and robotic monitoring of speed limits - it would be more accurate, comprehensive, and most importantly, cheaper than having Policepeople wasting their time and being bored while holding on to a radar gun. And then there are the court costs and lawyer costs for disputing a human-given ticket. And then there is the real possibility that some CLOWN goes crazy and shoots the Policeperson in a fit of hatred. Police time IS better spent looking for robbers and murderers than giving out tickets in person!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by jdulej

Didn't this just get ruled on it Texas (of all places). It might have just been the state courts. Basically the ruling was - as long as the company is not asking an employee to do something illegal, they can have any rule they want. So, Hooters can ask their waitresses to wear tight t-shirts, hospitals and ask their employees to be vaxxed, etc.
Even in SF, where I worked most of my career, companies had a set of rules employees were expected to follow - want to bring your dog to work, get a job at Facebook. Ain't gonna happen at Bank of America.

I agree with the conclusion and contents of this post.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by lkagele

Do you ever ask yourself why we're mandating a 'vaccine' that really isn't? It's really nothing more than a good therapeutic. What do you want to bet that it's only a matter of time before they start mandating the boosters?

I see no truth or logic contained herein!

[jdulej]

This thread has drifted into the twilight zone. Time to drop it.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by lkagele

Do you ever really listen to what you are advocating? It's also a huge violation of the individual's civil liberties.

What's next? Weekly drug tests to ensure no employee is doing anything adverse to their health to keep premiums down? Daily submittal of your dietary intake to ensure optimal health to keep premiums down? Why not mandate a government recommended daily vitamin? Healthy hair is important, let's mandate a specific type of shampoo......

Because of this mandate, we're going to have 100's of thousands of people that will now be unemployed with no unemployment or health benefits. What good is that going to do for the country?

I see no clarity or logic here in that other person's post. And as a matter of fact, it does a WORLD of GOOD to get US people vaccinated. At a minimum, the world would stop feeling sorry for and laughing at the US. Also, 99% of the recent CV deaths are the unvaccinated. The US economy would be able to keep up with our competitors China, Japan, and Europe - we are falling behind. In Alabama for the 1st time ever - deaths outstrip births. Hospitals across the whole US are losing staff and getting depressed. Children are getting behind in education. Children may have long-term CV symptoms that stunt the gray matter in their brains. Violence is increasing in the US and Cv IS a large part of the reason.
ALL of modern history will be known as pre CV and post CV.
.....If that's not enough for anybody, not sure where they are coming from, maybe under a rock? And I just hit the high spots - I could go on and on..........

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Art cov

This idea of firing people who have worked someplace for 30 years for not being vaccinated and on the other hand allowing millions in the country from all over the world that are not vaccinated and have health problems for our medical to take care of, and put the burden on tax payers and the country

Artificially "coupling" 2 issues together like this does not make the conclusion true. Part 1) Yes, people should get vaccinated and the anti-vaxxers should get jobs away from people, maybe like in Siberia.
......2nd Part ) Too many people and unvaccinated people are entering an already overcrowded America and adding instability to an already volatile society that has stretched its limit for resources like raw materials, transportation, roads, bridges and etc. Currently, the US is falling behind on everything from technology to Wall Street stability and even governmental cooperation. Even patriotism is waning!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz

The COVID-19 shot does not prevent you from getting the virus
The COVID-19 shot does not prevent you from spreading the virus
Why on god green earth should not getting one prevent you from working or getting a job
I truly think the world has done lost their minds

God's green earth will be getting a LOT GREENER when the Covid virus gets stronger due to the inaction of the anti-vaxxers
and KILLS almost all of the humans on the planet. The plants will inherit the earth.

[NoMoSno]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I could go on and on..........

Spare us...