[canyonblue]

Originally Posted by jj6426

In defense of the suspect, why shoot him? Why kill him? Why not taser him? Or, in the case of Jacob Blake who was trying to get into his car, why not shoot out his tires? If there is more than one policeman, why can't they grab him and handcuff him? He ( Blake) was stronger than a cop? Than two cops? Although I may be missing something, it seems to me that the cops were just enraged that this guy was fighting them---and they shot him out of anger not as a last means of capturing him.

A lot of WHY'S in that paragraph. Probably the most important why is why do people disobey and ignore police commands. I've never been a cop, but I will never second guess a person who has a split second to make a decision on whether or not you're about to be killed by a criminal who is resisting arrest and going into his car for something. Wake up people! It's the cops that are being killed for NO reason.

[JGVillages]

Blake resisted, had an officer in a choke hold, escaped after being tasered to run around his car to reach in the driver’s side for something. After all this resistance you have 1.5 seconds to determine if it’s ........................; sorry too late, it was a gun. You are dead. If that had happened it would have been just another officer murdered with minimal press coverage and certainly no looting and burning prior to, and after the murderers trial.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Whether or not you believe it is irrelevant. He made statements of fact, without mentioning where those facts came from. If I told you I know for an absolute fact that the Easter Bunny murdered Santa in 1974, and the current Santa is actually a Russian spy, would you a) believe me because I told you it's a fact? b) decide I'm stark raving bonkers, which is entirely possible but you don't know THAT for sure either? or c) ask me to prove it?


Also - the current Santa isn't a Russian spy. But it's very possible that the Easter Bunny killed the one in 1974.

The facts are; one after another people with records of law breaking ignore law enforcement's command of STOP. Then they are shot. The police do this for a number of reasons. It depends whether you have always respected authority or not, how you "feel" about this.

Have you counseled your children to be respectful to you, to their teachers and principal, to their boss, to their church tenets, to commonly held authority? We have.

[justjim]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Not to worry about that

Fact is, most posts on here can be traced directly to another social media or a source with direct motives, not necessarily for the good of our country.

Making loud accusations or comments with no credible backup should not be allowed, but it is and is hard to police frankly.

No, social media is almost "devils work" no matter where or what. It is now "a tool" of un-American activities and the sad thing, it is "used" so well that innocents get caught up and do not realize the source or the reason. NOR do they care, frankly.

Most trouble I get into with mods is when I question someone as they spread lies or half truths. Showing scenes and presenting them as in our country when they are from another......accusing a person or group of terrible things with zero credible back up......currentlyi calling agitators...protestors......or similar is terribly wrong and making that call is not always wrong, but NOW it is accepted fact which is what the manipulators of this form of media want....then you are theirs.

You make some good points. I’ve said this before. Social Media and 24 hour Cable Media is much different than the mainstream press IMHO. A free press is absolutely necessary for a free Country. Let me be clear all media is protected by the First Amendment. Just because we may disagree doesn’t mean we don’t have a right to our opinion and it’s not necessarily fake news it’s just your opinion. Some are demonizing the media. Careful what you wish for. You wouldn’t have the same rights in Russia or China or many other places.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Mendy

There are at least 2 sides to every story. Hopefully the truth comes out soon.

Updates From Kenosha, Wisconsin Following Jacob Blake Shooting : NPR

So the first thing that we know is wrong is that he wasn't shot in the back seven times. What w know is that seven shots were fired, four hit him and one hit him in the spine.

The fact that he was fighting with police was probably what caused three shots to mis him and three others to not have the effect of stopping him.

The Rittenhouse case is a separate incident.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by justjim

You make some good points. I’ve said this before. Social Media and 24 hour Cable Media is much different than the mainstream press IMHO. A free press is absolutely necessary for a free Country. Let me be clear all media is protected by the First Amendment. Just because we may disagree doesn’t mean we don’t have a right to our opinion and it’s not necessarily fake news it’s just your opinion. Some are demonizing the media. Careful what you wish for. You wouldn’t have the same rights in Russia or China or many other places.

Boy, have you nailed it.

There may be some, but most third world countries or those who were overthrown began with attacking the press.

You must stop the citizenry from knowing the truth is the precursor to...well, up to us I guess.

[holger danske]

looks like a curved blade

[Dana1963]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I could give an answer to that 2 blades question. IF(?), big (IF) (because I could NOT see one, but I will look harder next time it is run on TV) - - - So, assuming a knife in his LEFT hand as he walked slowly around the front of the car, then we see the grabbing of his shirt as he leans forward into the vicinity of his steering wheel, - then, he is shot in the lower back SEVEN times, - then the shock of being shot and his momentum forward would cause him to drop that knife - that ONE knife. So that answers the ONE knife question, not 2 knives..........But, several questions remain. Could or SHOULD (?) he have been shot in the leg or arm? Should he have been kicked in the back of the leg when he was in front of the car? Or shot in the leg at THAT point. After all they ONLY wanted him to STOP walking away S L O W L Y from the POLICE. HOPEFULLY, they were not thinking then at that point that he NEEDED to DIE for just not stopping. So. that would have been a GOOD time to shoot him in the LEG if that felt they HAD to shoot him. What was in their mind at that point we can never know. Most posts here are convinced that the Police side was justified. But, I am suspicious about something not QUITE making sense in the video of this shooting. I wish the Police had the SOUND part of there cameras turned on. Why was it not? That could have made me understand the situation more. I hope that an investigation or a jury trial would straighten that out. But, I fear that the rush to condemn him will WIN the day?????

We only saw about a 45 second video missing the incident on the other side of SUV. Viewed were 3 police following suspect guns drawn to drivers side of SUV. These 3 officers lost control of situation lost their cool acted on fear. The Police did not have body camera’s issued the them.

[Dana1963]

Originally Posted by JGVillages

No. He was struggling with this felon who just a few minutes earlier had an officer in a headlock, broke away from being tased, and ran around his car holding a knife then reaching for something inside the driver’s side. Is he supposed to ask him if he’s reaching for a gun then wait to see if he will turn and only shoot him once? The felon refused to submit and resisted with violence. The number of shots does’t matter!

Your making stuff up about holding a knife! That was not a part of police report you made it up to fit your narrative

[graciegirl]

It could have ended like this;


video of officer being shot who was wearing a body camera - Bing video

Another one; video of officer being shot who was wearing a body camera - Bing video

[eremite06]

Originally Posted by holger danske

looks like a curved blade

If it is a curved blade, US Special Forces could tell you with a stab and one cut, a person will bleed out in a matter of minutes.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by eremite06

If it is a curved blade, US Special Forces could tell you with a stab and one cut, a person will bleed out in a matter of minutes.

It looked like a fighting knife made by Karambit to me. Best Karambit Knives - Top 7 Karambits | Blade HQ

Originally Posted by justjim

You make some good points. I’ve said this before. Social Media and 24 hour Cable Media is much different than the mainstream press IMHO. A free press is absolutely necessary for a free Country. Let me be clear all media is protected by the First Amendment. Just because we may disagree doesn’t mean we don’t have a right to our opinion and it’s not necessarily fake news it’s just your opinion. Some are demonizing the media. Careful what you wish for. You wouldn’t have the same rights in Russia or China or many other places.

Some are demonizing the police and support defunding them. Careful what you wish for.

[Lindsyburnsy]

Still trying to figure out why anybody would need to shoot another person 7 times IN THE BACK and then find a knife in the car. Please stop supporting this type of behavior. Our police need to be trained better. This is inexcusable.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by holger danske

looks like a curved blade

I heard, but have not seen.

Thanks for posting.