[Byte1]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I'm just glad that our bills are mailed with the USPS, and not sent via FedEx or UPS. The bill itself would increase in cost every month, because instead of 55 cents (or less for bulk mailing) the utility would be paying over $8 per household per month, JUST to send the bill.

And then if you want to send your payment by mail, instead of paying 55 cents, you'd have to pay over $8. For every single bill you choose to pay by mail.

And that's just bills. Imagine if you choose to subscribe to a paper magazine, without the USPS to deliver it to you. The cost to FedEx it to you is more than the cost of the magazine.

Without the USPS - our lives would be significantly and profoundly different from how they are now, and most people don't even think about how much we rely on the postal service, and that 55 cents per envelope.

Who uses "snail mail" to pay bills? It's much more efficient to pay on line and not have to worry about your mail getting there late or being lost.

[Byte1]

The USPS is just another example of a poorly managed Gov run business. The Gov. should keep it's nose out of business, since it has no clue how to manage any form of business efficiently.

[Tom2172]

95% of the mail delivered is junk mail that goes right into the trash > then landfill.

The PO needs to charge more for Junk mail
Stop amazon deliveries that lose money

PO needs total overhaul & 75% reduction in size.
It’s not the 1800’s
We have internet mail & Bill delivered
PO is horse & buggy it’s time has pasted

[Malsua]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Without the USPS - our lives would be significantly and profoundly different from how they are now, and most people don't even think about how much we rely on the postal service, and that 55 cents per envelope.

Without the post office our lives would be profoundly different?

How?

I wouldn't even notice.

I haven't sent a payment by mail in at least 10 years.

I occasionally get a check in the mail and that's only because there was a fee for a direct payment. Eliminate the USPS and those fees would disappear.

Sure, I get Amazon deliveries by the mail, those would flip over to the Amazon truck or Fedex/UPS.

If I need to send someone money, it's Paypal, Venmo or Zelle.

Just because YOU haven't caught up to technology, doesn't mean there are no alternatives to the post office.

Sure, we could hail it's passing with a flag and a monument, just make sure the first 50 feet are straight sided and sheer or some woke doofass will try to pull it down.

[soniak4@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

The PMG would profit by seeing the USPS destroyed. He and his wife have heavy investments in competitors - and used to be the CEO of one of them (XPO Logistics).

If the USPS fails, his investments could quadruple within a month.

Spot on!!!

[cactusjack158]

I agree, the US Post Office is a vital service and should not be tampered with. When I was in the military during the Viet Nam war, we used to send classified documents by registered mail, that is how safe and dependable our mail service is. The US postal service does an amazing job and should not be used as a political tool by any party.

[soniak4@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by Malsua

Without the post office our lives would be profoundly different?

How?

I wouldn't even notice.

I haven't sent a payment by mail in at least 10 years.

I occasionally get a check in the mail and that's only because there was a fee for a direct payment. Eliminate the USPS and those fees would disappear.

Sure, I get Amazon deliveries by the mail, those would flip over to the Amazon truck or Fedex/UPS.

If I need to send someone money, it's Paypal, Venmo or Zelle.

Just because YOU haven't caught up to technology, doesn't mean there are no alternatives to the post office.

Sure, we could hail it's passing with a flag and a monument, just make sure the first 50 feet are straight sided and sheer or some woke doofass will try to pull it down.

Believe it or not, it’s not just ABOUT YOU!!!! There are millions of people in this country who depend on the USPS. MILLIONS who receive their medication through the USPS. MILLIONS who receive paychecks, necessary packages, legal documents, etc. through the USPS.

People like you need to learn a lesson in this world....there are other people living here other than you and you are not the be all and end all. Wake up.

[cactusjack158]

Originally Posted by stu from nyc

it should plan to more or less break even. The effiiencies now in it should be fixed with the money coming from congress and stop having to fund pensions so far in advance or even stop the pensions altogether and let people have 401 or ira's like most of us

if it was your pension you would want it funded properly.

[Denvercane]

Can people please stop "reply with a quote". We all read the long article and it doesn't need to be reposted over and over again

[noslices1]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I'm just glad that our bills are mailed with the USPS, and not sent via FedEx or UPS. The bill itself would increase in cost every month, because instead of 55 cents (or less for bulk mailing) the utility would be paying over $8 per household per month, JUST to send the bill.

And then if you want to send your payment by mail, instead of paying 55 cents, you'd have to pay over $8. For every single bill you choose to pay by mail.

And that's just bills. Imagine if you choose to subscribe to a paper magazine, without the USPS to deliver it to you. The cost to FedEx it to you is more than the cost of the magazine.

Without the USPS - our lives would be significantly and profoundly different from how they are now, and most people don't even think about how much we rely on the postal service, and that 55 cents per envelope.

I get ALL my bills sent to me electronically through e-mail, with the exception of the Villages Utilities. I can see that bill coming by e-mail in the future. Also pay all my bills electronically, so the USPS is not involved in any way. That is one reason the USPS is doing less first class mail as “paperless billing” is becoming more prevalent.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Who uses "snail mail" to pay bills? It's much more efficient to pay on line and not have to worry about your mail getting there late or being lost.

Millions of people who don't have internet service. Thousands of people who don't have electricity (and therefore no method of powering their devices or even charging them).

Maybe a visit to the Ocala Forest would do you some good. You'll learn something new.

[SophieP]

As a retired 25 year Postal employee I can say as a fact that my actual pension is peanuts. The bulk of my retirement is from my investing as much as possible into the Thrift Savings plan which is a 401K. Most of my actual pension goes into paying for my medical insurance.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Tom2172

95% of the mail delivered is junk mail that goes right into the trash > then landfill.

The PO needs to charge more for Junk mail
Stop amazon deliveries that lose money

PO needs total overhaul & 75% reduction in size.
It’s not the 1800’s
We have internet mail & Bill delivered
PO is horse & buggy it’s time has pasted

That junk mail is why you only have to pay 55 cents to mail a 1-ounce standard envelope anywhere in this country.
Amazon deliveries are why the Postal Service is still up and running at all. Without their revenue they would have shut down a few years ago.

Millions of people still rely on the postal service to deliver and send actual mail. Not everyone has internet service, not everyone even lives in an area where internet service is available - even if they could afford to have a computer, laptop, tablet, or smartphone to receive and send mail and other communication.

Some segments of this country are "off the grid." The USPS is their lifeline to the outside world.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Malsua

Without the post office our lives would be profoundly different?

How?

I wouldn't even notice.

I haven't sent a payment by mail in at least 10 years.

I occasionally get a check in the mail and that's only because there was a fee for a direct payment. Eliminate the USPS and those fees would disappear.

Sure, I get Amazon deliveries by the mail, those would flip over to the Amazon truck or Fedex/UPS.

If I need to send someone money, it's Paypal, Venmo or Zelle.

Just because YOU haven't caught up to technology, doesn't mean there are no alternatives to the post office.

Sure, we could hail it's passing with a flag and a monument, just make sure the first 50 feet are straight sided and sheer or some woke doofass will try to pull it down.

Amazon chooses to use the USPS for some of their deliveries because of a monumental savings in shipping fees. That is WHY you can get 2-day delivery free if you're a Prime member. The cost for their UPS, FedEx, and Amazon-owned deliveries is offset by the low price of USPS deliveries.

If they didn't have USPS deliver much of their envelopes and small packages, there would be NO free delivery at all for MOST packages shipped by Amazon.

Also, FedEx, UPS, and DHL services don't ship to certain locations at all. USPS is required to ship to every single address in the USA. People living in rural areas where FedEx doesn't cover - rely on USPS to get things to them.

[17362]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I wish people would stop saying that the USPS delivers Social Security checks. They don't. All payments are made by direct deposit. It's mandatory.

I agree with that statement as fact, at least in our lives-count 2 towards that statistic.
However, the statements of every month Deposit comes by USPS, they insist to deliver the statements every month by USPS mail.

Now, there are medications that doctors prescribe, like Florida Cancer specialists that do come by mail, you have no choice, according to their policy. So how many other doctors offices insist on certain specialty meds must be delivered via mail!? We found this out the hard way. So those policies must be changed! - give us a choice, instead of no choice.