[jacksonbrown]

Hey you'll, this discussion doesn't have to be "political", so let's not make this about one party or another. Do not mention the "D" word or "R" word, nor the "B" word or the "T" word.

Because, doing so will get this thread deleted.

This is about our political process, defined by the Constitution of the United States with a preamble

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Please read this twice (or more). Pay particular attention to the concepts enumerated within the parentheses.

With that in mind, let's discuss voter fraud.

You first.

[Stu from NYC]

People should have to submit proof of identity in order to vote.

[DonH57]

I believe voter fraud pretty much will never be eradicated. Who controls the standard to ensure only one form is certified for use by every state across the board produced and distributed by only one federally approved contractor?

[graciegirl]

Is it o.k. to say I am frustrated and depressed? I am.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Is it o.k. to say I am frustrated and depressed? I am.

Laugh, don't cry.

[jacksonbrown]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Is it o.k. to say I am frustrated and depressed? I am.

GG, you just got me to laughing, and then I looked at your tag line -- well done!

[Two Bills]

On the scale needed to influence the outcome of an election, negligible.
It is a myth.
Where is the slightest evidence, apart from allegation?

[DeanFL]

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...even tho I was a strong supporter of one candidate, I simply cannot believe that some states can inhibit independent Poll "Watchers" to monitor the vote counting. We all know that each state has its own laws re elections - many can easily be subject to "cheating and fraud". In this country, one would think/hope/believe that we would have an honest vote counting and reporting. Some evidence indicates this may not be the case, especially in some states. Certainly hope that all this can be worked out, even in courts if needed.

Hopefully this won't be a terribly extended final result resolution.

In the end my attitude is "It Is What It Is". Life is too short, and not worth it to harbor excessive hate or worry.

I plan to put out my American flag - either way. We must be strong.
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[retiredguy123]

If you are a U.S. citizen, you should be required to prove it with a national ID card issued by the Federal Government. Without that, we will continue to have voter fraud and other fraud related to citizenship benefits.

[macawlaw]

If there were voter fraud, then I would expect the same party to prevail for the President, Senate, and House. Votes are still being counted as I type this, but the above does not appear to be the case.

Also, why is there only alleged fraud in the states with close races? I find this suspicious.

Finally, this issue appears to inspire an emotional response rather than a reasoned one. I have read many passionate accusations, but none of those have provided proof for the accusation.

[billethkid]

Where it can it will.
Whether it makes a difference or not we will never know.

Like speeding it is not right.....doesn't stop the speeders....and since it does not affect most of us.....does not make it OK.

[manaboutown]

Anyone else remember Landslide Lyndon? How "Landslide Lyndon" stole Senate race in 1948? - And U.S. entered Vietnam War.

[tvbound]

There is a huge difference between significant voter fraud (which has never been found, anywhere or anytime) and it just taking so long to count the unprecedented number of mailed-in ballots, due to the fear of catching Covid standing in a massive line. Every ballot cast in accordance with the appropriate state law(s) should be counted, regardless of how long it takes. That is the very foundation of a Constitutional Federal Republic. A lot of people also forget, that election laws are a state right and they vary from state to state. Here's a good link that shows those different laws.

VOPP: Table 11: Receipt and Postmark Deadlines for Absentee Ballots

[Stu from NYC]

People in Chicago are known to have voted for many years after they died, some of them even switched parties

[Going My Way]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

People should have to submit proof of identity in order to vote.

On 11/3/2020 I went to Paradise Rec Center in order to cast my vote, the lady did ask for my Driver’s License before I was able to get my voting sheets...