I saw a joke on Facebook today that said something to the effect of we should have hired the staff from Chick-fil-A, the counting would have been done two days ago. :1rotfl::1rotfl: They are so efficient!

Could this have gone any other way? A mess till the end! :ohdear:

You can't vote twice on the same bar code. Also when you register they do not use a digital signature.

What about when you show up without an ID and you use a provisional ballot? How can they create a specialized bar code for provisional ballots? Also, validating a ballot by comparing two signatures seems to me to be a very subjective and inaccurate method.

I think there has many more instances of voter suppression. Much more damaging as well.

Voter suppression and racist. The two most overused words from mainstream media.

With all those ivy league talking heads espousing their opinions, could not they think of something any more original?

Guess not.

My question is this, why is it that when all the early votes were in, one party was way ahead, then when people actually went to physically vote, the other side surged ahead, but then when the straggling mail in ballots got counted, the original party again surged back in front. Why does one party get it's advantage from early and mail in voting, while the other benefits from people actually physically showing up with a valid ID to vote? The whole thing seems kind of fishy to me? But then again, what do I know?

If quacks like a duck ...

An unfortunately large amount of voter fraud of various types was committed by the usual suspects. Hopefully the courts will be able to correct some of it although likely much of it will get by. What a sad situation.

Funny how this was not mentioned as a problem in 2016, wonder what changed?

Love it!!!

My question is... why is it certain large urban cities that seem to take so long to count votes? Other large cities seem to be able to get it done.
I guess they need to see how many additional mail-in ballots they need to swing the election to a certain candidate.

Just a guess, but one party spent its time pointing to fraud in the mail-in voting and disputing the effectiveness of masks and social distancing. The other party made a point of wearing masks, practicing distancing, and encouraging mail-in voting. I haven't looked at the statistics you refer to but I wonder if those differences in the parties match the results that you saw.

The sad truth is that once again, half of the country will be angry that their candidate lost. If we can create anything good from this mess, I hope states will take a long, hard look at the way they conduct voting and counting ballots before the 2022 midterm election. It should be apparent that things need to be improved. I hope this will be a wake-up call that Americans deserve that. Right now, I feel like I live in a third-world country with boarded up stores, riots in the streets and questionable vote counting. Thank you 2020 for another punch in the face.

A voter fraud commission headed by Kris Kobach was disbanded in 2018 due to a lack of findings.

Our great nations system of Democracy is filled with checks that make voter fraud almost impossible. Allegations of voter fraud usually comes from poor losers. Dont believe otherwise.

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that solves nothing. If voter fraud is being perpetrated then your example of 4 million is suspect also.
The problem is to eliminate the ability to cheat.
I expect we will all get an education in this as the sc either accepts or dismisses the results as invalid.
The sc can broker an agreement or rule on the matter on it's merits.
What im hoping for is justice. Without any hearings these 9 judges know the score about what really happened on election day. Basically the perpetrators have committed their crimes on a vast and coordinated effort and have challenged the supreme court, the last line of defense to stop them.
The insult has been delivered. The gauntlet has been thrown. What sayeth thee oh guardians of justice ?

And I do agree on one point, OUR GREAT NATION! That’s right, that’s on its way to being destroyed...

Who says that there is no evidence? Open your world....it's there.

Science doesn't explain everything.
And people who say "there's no evidence to support ...." are ignorant.

A hundred years ago "there was no evidence" at crime scenes. We didn't know about DNA, fingerprints, and more. The "evidence" WAS THERE. We were just too uneducated to know.

So today when you hear or read "there is no evidence" to support .....just think of the arrogance and ignorance of that statement

We all know where the poster original comments stem from, their lack of faith in our Constitution...that right there says it all.....

The party who claim they couldn’t go in person to vote? Then on Election Day, the CDC comes up with “even if you have Covid you can go vote” so explain to me? 1/2 of us understand the cathartic corruption that keeps moving along and continues to be accepted. We are not accepting it any longer....

How about 70000 mailed in ballots show up and every single one is for D. Statistically impossible.

I'm old enough to remember that an Election Fraud taskforce was formed by the current administration and nothing could be found and the taskforce was dismantled. There will always be a few votes here or there, but not massive amounts to make a difference. However, voter suppression is real and every tactic was used, including removing drop boxes, taking sorting machines out of the USPS, limiting voter polling stations, online propaganda. Even with all that, people turned out in droves to make their voices heard. Good for America!

But then no one ever bothers to check the provisional to see if there was a previously mailed in ballot.

But the media is controlling the message so we the people aren’t getting all the info to make a decision

Same here. When we went to vote at Mulberry Rec Center my husband and I were both asked for our driver licenses. Never voted without being asked here in Florida or New Jersey where I did not have to show my driver license.

The only true way to run elections is in person voting only either at poling places or as the military organized votes by region and only with photo ID. Chicago Philadelphia and others are famous for political corruption. Absentee voting only in limited numbers.

Just just an interesting note.....

As POTUS himself pointed out, the GOP had much success in other areas.

If you look at most states "in play" and check the "down ticket" you find that the "fraud" alleged seems not to have been widespread meaning the folks on the ballot not running for POTUS from the GOP did pretty well.

If anyone question fraud I ask them answer a simple question CO is 100% mail in and drop off.....zero votes in person. If they can count their ballots on Nov 3rd. Why are the battleground state stuck....why are ballots just popping up everywhere? CA, TX, FL, NY the highest populated states can count in one day in fact CA ...CALL IT WITHIN ONE HOUR. I don’t care what side you are on if you can see the fraud then you are be willfully blind

Mail in ballots......hello

Let's not. There is no voter fraud.

If anyone can give me just one good reason why you don’t have to show ID in most states to vote I will keep my mouth shut!

In reality, the states that are slow in reporting are GOP controlled legislatures that insisted on tough regulations relative to counting votes, ie. Pennsylvania Republican legislature insisted that no mail in votes be touched until all votes cast on Election Day be counted. Same thing in Michigan and a few others, all controlled by GOP legislatures.

306/232

- how ironic
- one would have to find mega fraud to overcome a landslide of that proportion

One thing that I understand and a lot of people get wrong is that the words "common defense" and "general welfare" refer to the common defense and general welfare of the states, not individuals.

People forget or don't want to believe that the original concept of this country was a loose union of several somewhat independent states similar to the European Union. With a few exceptions, the word state refers to a country, such as the State of Israel. The job of our state department is to deal with foreign countries (states).

The founders disagreed on how much power the federal government should have. It was a very innovative idea for a country and finding a balance has never been easy.

In my opinion, even the founders that were in favor of a stronger central government would be shocked to see what we have today.

I know that this may not be relative to the actual subject of the OP, but I fell that it is necessary to point this out as the poster decided to place parenthesis around certain phrases that he felt are important.

18 years as an election official in Virginia. DL is only one gorm of ID. There are many others, but you have yo have an acceptable picture ID.

We have known for 4 years that this election is on Nov. 3rd. Why should anything be allowed to be found/counted after Nov. 3rd? Why would you wait to election day to mail in a ballot? We should be done with this.

Just logic, if we still use common logic this in our country..

There was a study and they found that it is true, there is voter fraud committed in the US. In April 2020, a 20-year voter fraud study by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.00006 percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.000004 percent — about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning in the United States."

0.00006% is NOTHING, make no impact one way or another. Now, let’s move on. Enjoy the rest of your day.

Regardless of who wins the only looser the other night were the American people.

Because some state GOP legislatures decided that counting would not start until Election Day, and not before.

Why couldn't the mail in and early ballots be counted as they are received and the results kept under wraps until the results are known?

Why are they being received first and counted last?

IMHO, in this age of technology, this whole process is an embarrassment to our country.

First of all, why do we need early voting and mail in voting? For centuries people have gone the polls on election day ad voted. That seems to have worked pretty well for over 200 years.

Secondly, why do we need mail in ballots. I realize that we've always had them, but in the past they were very limited.

My suggestions. Since some people have claimed that they can't get to the pools on election day because they work, hold the election on a weekend. Since the polls may be crowded and people have to wait in line, do it over two or three days, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Mandate that employers give employees and extra hour break on election days.

Secondly allow mail in ballots only for people who can demonstrate a legitimate need. Those in the military or who otherwise will be out of the country or people who are confined at home or in a hospital should be the only ones that are allowed to vote by mail. There might be other conditions, and those would have to be defined to see who qualifies. But sending out hundreds of millions of ballots and expecting them all to be returned on time and properly filled out is unrealistic. I voted in person and received instructions on what to do if I made a mistake. How does that work with a mail in ballot?

The third thing would be to end all of this counting by hand. When I taught at a college, we had the answer sheets where the students would fill in the oval. I would insert the completed answer sheets into a machine and I would get printout of the grades of a class of thirty within minutes. When I voted, I filled out the ovals and inserted my ballot into a machine. I assume that that machine read the ballot and kept a tally of the results. I realize that every state has the freedom to decide how people will vote, but there must be a way to get this done so that all states are using the same system and don't have volunteers sitting at tables manually counting votes.

Just my ideas. They will never be adopted. I probably just had to vent after watching this absurd system every four years.

Amen.

Additionally I often wonder where does free speech end and slander take it’s place?