[BlackhawksFan]

Part of the problem is time and again police everywhere respond to calls they're not trained to handle. An emotionally distraught person, unless armed, doesn't need a police officer they need someone who is trained to talk to them and reel them in.

Many times in dealing with EDPs police do only what they know and that's to restrain and arrest the person then they get put in the court system which is also undertrained for these situations and overtaxed by them. Sometimes due to improper training police have actually escalated EPD calls and they've caused serious injuries or deaths.

Police should handle crimes and criminals, people crying out emotionally for help don't need a cop they need a counselor.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Grill Meister

May I suggest.....rather than "improving education systems, social health and welfare, you increase the odds that kids will grow up to become productive members of society, and decrease the odds that they'll end up violent criminals", you start in the home. Teach your children respect, teach them to respect their elders, teach them to respect the law, teach them to respect themselves and life, and teach them to respect authority. So often the teaching in the home is sadly missing and is reflected in the attitude of the child, in their youth and in their adult life. They are being taught to defy authority, defy responsibility and defy taking control of their own actions. The education system and certainly social health and welfare are not going to have any positive effect if the parents don't provide the discipline in the home.

So, what explains the fact that multiple children can be raised in the same household, under the exact same "respect/morals/attitudes/Etc."...yet turn out completely different?

The effects of 'nature versus nurture'...is a very old subject.

I've always said that we parents usually get too much credit, and too much blame...on how our children turn out.

Of course, there will be some with great and successful kids (which I fortunately have)...that will totally disagree.

[BlackhawksFan]

Originally Posted by Grill Meister

May I suggest.....rather than "improving education systems, social health and welfare, you increase the odds that kids will grow up to become productive members of society, and decrease the odds that they'll end up violent criminals", you start in the home. Teach your children respect, teach them to respect their elders, teach them to respect the law, teach them to respect themselves and life, and teach them to respect authority. So often the teaching in the home is sadly missing and is reflected in the attitude of the child, in their youth and in their adult life. They are being taught to defy authority, defy responsibility and defy taking control of their own actions. The education system and certainly social health and welfare are not going to have any positive effect if the parents don't provide the discipline in the home.

You've just described the result of improving educational systems, social health and welfare.

[merrymini]

President Johnson’s war on poverty worked right? Some children need a parent transplant and no amount of money will change that.

[GOLFER54]

And that is why the police officers need the monies to protect themselves and the community.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

All I know, is that when an intruder is in my house and I call 911, I want a SWAT team, NOT a social worker

Better yet, call the meat wagon.

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Thanks for showing us how defunding doesn't work and ends up costing more.

Very helpful

History has proven that government funding does not improve quality of life. This country spends billions to "help", yet only succeeds in keeping the downtrodden down. We only offer handouts instead of hands up and out of the quagmire.

[bluecenturian]

If the majority of Americans feel the police are too aggressive and “defunding” them is the right thing to do then why does just the talk of it cause this response? Anyone who thinks defunding should be done should walk through Seattle’s “capital free zone” if the warlord will let you pass.

During the last week of May, firearm sales were up 78% over 2019.

[Bay Kid]

Going to make a great movie. "Cities Without Police"

[Byte1]

The problem is not too much funding, but not enough funding. Why would anyone want to be in law enforcement when they are so badly under paid? Most departments work with the equivalent of flintlocks against criminals with automatic weapons. And anyone that would ask for a social worker to respond when they call 911 does not have an emergency. Police officers are trained to be social workers, clergy, EMT's, etc. Not all training is the same, but most train for just about any contingency they are sent on. If you want a better police force, then you need to spend money on it. I have seen some Departments that require at least a two year degree before they will hire. And believe it or not, Affirmative Action did NOT always improve policing. Having almost a million police officers in the U.S. is sure to have a few failures. I bet if you were to take the percentage of bad cops to the percentage of bad doctors in our country, you would say there is no problem in comparison. Police Dept's are not the problem, people are the problem. But, like anything else run by the gov whether local or federal, it won't be as well managed as the private sector.

[Fredman]

Go ahead and defund the police and the next time there is a riot the remaining police should all get the blue flu rather than risk there lives.