[retiredguy123]

I'm watching the mobs of people in Chicago and Los Angeles causing massive property damage and physical injury and the police are standing around doing nothing. How about shooting some tear gas canisters to break up the crowd, or is that considered too cruel or dangerous? I can personally testify that it works quickly and effectively.

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I'm watching the mobs of people in Chicago and Los Angeles causing massive property damage and physical injury and the police are standing around doing nothing. How about shooting some tear gas canisters to break up the crowd, or is that considered too cruel or dangerous? I can personally testify that it works quickly and effectively.

Certainly, that would be abuse of the rights of these poor souls just struggling to get their equity.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I'm watching the mobs of people in Chicago and Los Angeles causing massive property damage and physical injury and the police are standing around doing nothing. How about shooting some tear gas canisters to break up the crowd, or is that considered too cruel or dangerous? I can personally testify that it works quickly and effectively.

With all the ridiculous criticisms police are facing because of the actions of just a few, as well as the defund the police movement, entire police departments hands have been tied and they are afraid to do their jobs. It’s an absolute shame.

[PJOHNS2654]

Amen

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I'm watching the mobs of people in Chicago and Los Angeles causing massive property damage and physical injury and the police are standing around doing nothing. How about shooting some tear gas canisters to break up the crowd, or is that considered too cruel or dangerous? I can personally testify that it works quickly and effectively.

These mobs of people in Chicago were mostly teens who showed up in the park -before- the time that they weren't allowed to be in it (it's restricted for 21+ after a certain time of night). So they were there lawfully, and not "mobbing" the place, at the time they got there. Unfortunately - and to the surprise of probably no one at all - it spun out of control when they started attacking other people, mostly tourists, jumping on parked cars, including cars with people in them.

Tear gas would've put those tourists - the VICTIMS - at risk.

Why not put the blame where it belongs - on the teens, and their parents.

[dewilson58]

News Report:

Chicago Violence: Police Respond to Large Group of Teenagers Downtown for Second Night in a Row – NBC Chicago

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

These mobs of people in Chicago were mostly teens who showed up in the park -before- the time that they weren't allowed to be in it (it's restricted for 21+ after a certain time of night). So they were there lawfully, and not "mobbing" the place, at the time they got there. Unfortunately - and to the surprise of probably no one at all - it spun out of control when they started attacking other people, mostly tourists, jumping on parked cars, including cars with people in them.

Tear gas would've put those tourists - the VICTIMS - at risk.

Why not put the blame where it belongs - on the teens, and their parents.

Nonsense... The entire thing was planned ahead of time on Facebook and other Social Media sites...

[JRcorvette]

Can you imagine if this crap took place here in The Villages!

[MrFlorida]

According to the mayor of Chicago, they were only having fun !

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by DaveZ

So where do you recommend the uneducated start getting news from?

The sources THEY get their news from, of course... I mean, since they're sooo edumacated...

[Tmsreted]

I would recommend people vote with their feet and money...only then does it get the attention of the elitist. We are currently in an environment with folks exiting cities and states due to high taxes, crime and injustice. Those left will suffer the consequences of societal breakdown. (i.e. big business shutting stores in under-served communities)

[Fltpkr]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I'm watching the mobs of people in Chicago and Los Angeles causing massive property damage and physical injury and the police are standing around doing nothing. How about shooting some tear gas canisters to break up the crowd, or is that considered too cruel or dangerous? I can personally testify that it works quickly and effectively.

I cannot speak about LA, but in Chicago, the crowds were moving very quickly and the streets (have you ever seen Michigan Avenue) were full of cars with ordinary folks as well as tourists. So, you think tear gas is really the best call in that situation? The crowds of kids would just run into the next block and everyone else would be choking on tear gas. How would tear gas affect the drivers, passengers and bystanders? A lot of Villages Monday morning quarterbacking - I think.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Fltpkr

I cannot speak about LA, but in Chicago, the crowds were moving very quickly and the streets (have you ever seen Michigan Avenue) were full of cars with ordinary folks as well as tourists. So, you think tear gas is really the best call in that situation? The crowds of kids would just run into the next block and everyone else would be choking on tear gas. How would tear gas affect the drivers, passengers and bystanders? A lot of Villages Monday morning quarterbacking - I think.

What about the couple who were beaten and robbed in front of their apartment building? They said they saw police walking by who appeared to be ignoring the situation. A few tear gas canisters could have dispersed that mob and prevented the assault.

What about the mob that broke into a convenience store in Los Angeles? It took them several minutes to force their way into the store before they destroyed an entire business.

[DaveZ]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

These mobs of people in Chicago were mostly teens who showed up in the park -before- the time that they weren't allowed to be in it (it's restricted for 21+ after a certain time of night). So they were there lawfully, and not "mobbing" the place, at the time they got there. Unfortunately - and to the surprise of probably no one at all - it spun out of control when they started attacking other people, mostly tourists, jumping on parked cars, including cars with people in them.

Tear gas would've put those tourists - the VICTIMS - at risk.

Why not put the blame where it belongs - on the teens, and their parents.

I really can’t tell if you’re condoning this incident, passing the blame, or just softening it. The read feels like tourists don’t matter (in fact a number of residents were sent to the hospital) and seems to be misdirection.

The old “where are the parents” is really a worn out passive response to crime and violence. Police are responsible for protecting the public, not parents. It’s why we support and have them. Every criminal has parents and it doesn’t matter where parents are when crime is committed. Were I in the middle of that mob being beaten, I’d prefer having police actively ending the incident (even if I got gassed) and arresting the assaulters rather than a parent. Even more so preventing the mob in the first place.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by DaveZ

I really can’t tell if you’re condoning this incident, passing the blame, or just softening it. The read feels like tourists don’t matter (in fact a number of residents were sent to the hospital) and seems to be misdirection.

The old “where are the parents” is really a worn out passive response to crime and violence. Police are responsible for protecting the public, not parents. It’s why we support and have them. Every criminal has parents and it doesn’t matter where parents are when crime is committed. Were I in the middle of that mob being beaten, I’d prefer having police actively ending the incident (even if I got gassed) and arresting the assaulters rather than a parent. Even more so preventing the mob in the first place.

Actions have consequences. Allow people to loot and destroy and they will.
Businesses that were destroyed are gone taking jobs with it.

How does anyone condone this?