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NoMoSno 02-24-2021 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1907422)
Get your facts correct. Do not quote people “out of context” with apparently no idea of what he said.

“When asked by Stephanopoulos if schools had the resources available to abide by the new CDC guidelines, Fauci said he did not believe so.

“I think that the schools really do need more resources and that's the reason why the national relief act that we're talking about getting passed — we need that. The schools need more resources.”


Fauci: Stimulus bill needs to be passed for schools to reopen | TheHill

“When asked by Stephanopoulos if schools had the resources available to abide by the new CDC guidelines, Fauci said he did not believe so.

“I think that the schools really do need more resources and that's the reason why the national relief act that we're talking about getting passed — we need that. The schools need more resources.”

Maybe if the bill wasn't full of non-covid related pork, it would pass.

Bucco 02-24-2021 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 1907452)
Maybe if the bill wasn't full of non-covid related pork, it would pass.

First, that is not the subject of this thread, and recall the states got much nothing for the, almost a year, of the virus. Sort of left to “sort it out” themselves.

But this thread has nothing to do with that bill.

But I am sort of used to folks “turning” things.

Swoop 02-24-2021 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Katieburr (Post 1907281)
Dr Fauci has kept us all alive for the past year. I trust him to keep us on top of all the latest information. The fact is, Dr Fauci is learning new information every day, just like we are. Every day there is something else to adjust to, and something else for Dr Fauci to disseminate to the world. We have never experienced a global pandemic and we are all just learning as we go. Give the guy a break. Frankly, what I worry more about is all the villagers wandering around with no masks like the pandemic is over. The truth is that if everyone had worn masks from the very beginning this would all be over. Ponder that for awhile.

Remember, when your prophet Fauci decided that we should all wear masks, it wasn’t to eradicate the virus, it was simply to help slow the spread...

coffeebean 02-24-2021 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1907494)
Remember, when your prophet Fauci decided that we should all wear masks, it wasn’t to eradicate the virus, it was simply to help slow the spread...

Of course the Universal masking and social distancing request was to slow the spread. No one ever said wearing masks would eradicate the virus. And...... your point is?????

Pairadocs 02-24-2021 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1907219)
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Many times in the last year during Covid-19, I felt that Dr. Faucci was very informative, engaging, and presented information well. During the last months, my attitude has changed. I now feel that he is a Media hog, bends to political influence, and does not consider other factors impacting our overall "Health". There are many of Faucci quotes during the past 12 months that are confusing and erroneous.

But NOW I agree with Rubio> "Dr. Fauci is a very good public-health official. His job is to advise policy makers and inform the public," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said on Tuesday. "But his job is NOT to decide what we can do, where we can go or which places can open or close And his job is NOT to mislead or scare us into doing the 'right things.'"

And his floundering of opening schools and lockdowns- terrible.

But his LATEST --- Fauci on Sunday declined to say on CNN that grandparents who are fully vaccinated could see their grandchildren, saying "I don't want to be making a recommendation now on public TV. I would want to sit down with the team, take a look at that."

So, if Faucci represents "Science", that's fine - but just as important to the Medical HEALTH of US citizens is Financial Health and Emotional Health. I don't believe that he takes everything into consideration for us all in terms of OVERALL Health.

Side note> Do you know that Faucci makes more in salary than the US President?

Can't express how much I agree with you, just another self-promoting political animal and actually I am absolutely sure there are MANY more talented and skilled individuals than he, they just don't flaunt their political ambitions and insatiable deep need for media attention, to "be somebody". Also tired of the WHO head administrator, Tedros Adhanom, who uses "Dr." BEFORE his name, I am sure with the intent to be taken for an M.D., and who, although head of public health in.... let's see, where was it, Ethiopia I believe, does not actually hold any M.D. or Ph.D. in a non medical/scientific field. Unfortunately, the people of our country, and many others, do not chose the most qualified or the most naturally gifted in medicine, research, the law, etc., no, we go for the self promoters, the ones who hire a behind the scenes publicist, even in academia. No, it's not quite the same as those who work as entertainment/Hollywood promoters, but it's the same principle. They guide you in how to promote some pretty flimsy articles based on very poor research perimeters, poorly designed studies, and then "promote" this garbage "science" with the smoke and mirrors that serve to impress the vast majority of citizens who have no idea what to look for in a well constructed research study.... the variables, the standard deviations, the margins of error and what that might mean, etc. Believe me, the "cream" does not naturally rise to the top, these folks are self promoters and plan every inch of their "career" rise. They know quite smugly, they are of course, "smarter than the average bear", kind of like the self promoting architect of the Obama medical plan.... remember him on the hot mike ? Too bad, most American's spend a lot more time and research into what color automobile they will buy, than who they catapult to the highest positions and offices, even when it comes to their HEALTH and their education and the education of their children. Don't think it is likely to change either, many could not care less.

JoMar 02-24-2021 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1907355)
How about not dying? Is that enough incentive for you? How about not have those lingering long haul side effects even if you do survive the virus? Is that enough incentive for you?

There is new evidence coming out of Israel that the mRNA vaccines prevent the transmission of the virus. That is the best news to come our way about these vaccines. Dr, Fauci did make this announcement and I saw him on a news cast on TV saying that.

In addition, because of this new evidence, fully vaccinated people who have an exposure to a Covid positive person, DO NOT have to quarantine. To me, this means there is evidence that a vaccinate person can not transmit the disease.

This is what the CDC has on their website regarding vaccinated people not needing to quarantine if exposed to Covid. Take note of the 4th bulleted point...........

Interim Clinical Considerations for Use of mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines | CDC

Just my opinion but if this latest evidence shows without a doubt that vaccinated people will not transmit the virus, there will be updated recommendations from Dr. Fauci. We just have to wait.

May want to read it again.....nothing in there says vaccinated people can't transmit, mostly because it hasn't been clearly determined. Still learning.
From the CDC Website: "It’s important for everyone to continue using all the tools available to help stop this pandemic as we learn more about how COVID-19 vaccines work in real-world conditions. Experts are also looking at how many people get vaccinated and how the virus is spreading in communities. We also don’t yet know whether getting a COVID-19 vaccine will prevent you from spreading the virus that causes COVID-19 to other people, even if you don’t get sick yourself. CDC will continue to update this page as we learn more." (Feb 19)

chet2020 02-24-2021 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 1907248)
My mind boggled when he recently revealed that even when completely vaccinated and still practicing wearing masks, washing hands and social distancing we should not be dining in, going to movies/entertainment venues, visiting grandchildren, etc.

I thought he previously advised that being vaccinated would allow us to get back to some sort of normal!

If we have not suffered the virus in a year's time and we still can't do all of the above - why be vaccinated? We must be doing something right by not becoming ill during that one year period!

There was concern that people vaccinated could carry the virus for a short period of time and infect other people even though they were not in danger themselves. That's why Fauci was cautious about throwing away the masks.

Lately there's been a push by certain people to make Fauci the scapegoat for everything from A to Z and some of us are apparently buying it. It does not reflect well on us.

JimJohnson 02-25-2021 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1907219)
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Many times in the last year during Covid-19, I felt that Dr. Faucci was very informative, engaging, and presented information well. During the last months, my attitude has changed. I now feel that he is a Media hog, bends to political influence, and does not consider other factors impacting our overall "Health". There are many of Faucci quotes during the past 12 months that are confusing and erroneous.

But NOW I agree with Rubio> "Dr. Fauci is a very good public-health official. His job is to advise policy makers and inform the public," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said on Tuesday. "But his job is NOT to decide what we can do, where we can go or which places can open or close And his job is NOT to mislead or scare us into doing the 'right things.'"

And his floundering of opening schools and lockdowns- terrible.

But his LATEST --- Fauci on Sunday declined to say on CNN that grandparents who are fully vaccinated could see their grandchildren, saying "I don't want to be making a recommendation now on public TV. I would want to sit down with the team, take a look at that."

So, if Faucci represents "Science", that's fine - but just as important to the Medical HEALTH of US citizens is Financial Health and Emotional Health. I don't believe that he takes everything into consideration for us all in terms of OVERALL Health.

Side note> Do you know that Faucci makes more in salary than the US President?

I think of him as a hero.

JimJohnson 02-25-2021 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1907254)
Could it be that things change because we learn more? The vaccine will protect you and if you don't care about others you can go back to normal. They don't know if, even though you probably won't get sick, if you can carry and spread. So if that's a possibility you decide if you want to protect your friends, kids and grand kids.

👍
2021 and Science is still not trusted by some. So sad.

coffeebean 02-25-2021 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1907503)
May want to read it again.....nothing in there says vaccinated people can't transmit, mostly because it hasn't been clearly determined. Still learning.
From the CDC Website: "It’s important for everyone to continue using all the tools available to help stop this pandemic as we learn more about how COVID-19 vaccines work in real-world conditions. Experts are also looking at how many people get vaccinated and how the virus is spreading in communities. We also don’t yet know whether getting a COVID-19 vaccine will prevent you from spreading the virus that causes COVID-19 to other people, even if you don’t get sick yourself. CDC will continue to update this page as we learn more." (Feb 19)

Yes, I know that. I did say to look at the 4th bullet point which indicates to me that a vaccinated person who is exposed to Covid does not have to quarantine. We are still waiting for definite word from the experts and organizations such as the CDC to let us know if in fact vaccinated people have a low enough viral load to not be able to transmit the disease. We must wait at this point to see if in fact the mRNA vaccines will prevent transmission in vaccinated people. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

Tmarkwald 02-25-2021 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe V. (Post 1907479)
Who silenced him?

Exactly.

He chose to be silent rather than speak up.

If you don't have any integrity left, better to keep the mouth shut.

Rwirish 02-25-2021 06:19 AM

No me, 100% respect for Dr.Fauci. The virus is not a constant and our knowledge and response change frequently.

matandch 02-25-2021 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 1907248)
My mind boggled when he recently revealed that even when completely vaccinated and still practicing wearing masks, washing hands and social distancing we should not be dining in, going to movies/entertainment venues, visiting grandchildren, etc.

I thought he previously advised that being vaccinated would allow us to get back to some sort of normal!

If we have not suffered the virus in a year's time and we still can't do all of the above - why be vaccinated? We must be doing something right by not becoming ill during that one year period!

Only when at least 80% of the population is vaccinated can we think about returning to normalcy.

All of the vaccines out there have an efficacy of around 95%. If you’ve been fully vaccinated you should behave like you’re one of the 5% until we hit the 80% vaccinated necessary for herd immunity.

StirStik 02-25-2021 06:29 AM

He has been a joke from day 1. Most overpaid employee there is.

banjobob 02-25-2021 06:29 AM

I think everybody is tired of hearing from him. Flip flop tell us what to do .

oneclickplus 02-25-2021 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1907341)
The vaccines prevent death and long haul side effects. Isn't that enough of an incentive to consider being vaccinated?

Really? All promotional material relating to the Covid-19 Vaccine is required to clearly and conspicuously state that this product has not been approved or licensed by the FDA, but has been authorized for emergency use by FDA.

Anyone who takes this vaccine is a voluntary guinea pig.

Leadbone1 02-25-2021 06:32 AM

I don’t pay attention to one thing Dr. Fauci has to say. He’s been all over the place on everything. The way people like him staying businesses by keeping everything and everyone in turmoil. And I don’t wear a mask except for a doctor appointment which is very few and far between

Bridget Staunton 02-25-2021 06:35 AM

Don’t trust him anymore, although the CDC is a excellent organization. Once he moved into a government job he has trouble telling the truth and speaks out of both sides of his mouth.

elevatorman 02-25-2021 06:43 AM

Who do you trust?
 
If you don't believe what Dr. Fauci is saying about Covid-19, who do you believe?
CDC
WHO
Dr. Atlas
Your GP
Politician R
Politician D

I trust the science. I would listen to an epidemiologist speaking about Covid before a politician, general practitioner, or a blog post. I trust the CDC, WHO. and Dr. Fauci.
I believe Dr Fauci is the preeminent voice worldwide on Covid as well as many other communicable diseases.

scottiesrgreat@gmail.com 02-25-2021 06:47 AM

Selecting Dr. Fauci was an extremely poor decision, in my opinion. I am sure, in his day - which was back in the 80s - he was fine. But, no one can tell me - with all the great minds at outstanding universities and research institutions here in the US and around the world - not one other person on this earth - who has more recently achieved great accolades in the field - was equally or more qualified and established as a better and more consistent/reliable communicator! If Fauci (at 80 yrs old) is all we have as our go-to-person / expert - we are in some serious, really serious trouble.

BTW - I lost total confidence in Dr. Fauci when I saw him sitting at a baseball game - with others - no mask - after telling everyone they must wear a mask and remain locked down. I lost all credibility with him at that point..... also - I agree - his role is NOT to be the single voice directing our policies on how we can or can not live our lives. He has been given way too much power - by each President (Trump and Biden) in my opinion.

Cobullymom 02-25-2021 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 1907502)
Can't express how much I agree with you, just another self-promoting political animal and actually I am absolutely sure there are MANY more talented and skilled individuals than he, they just don't flaunt their political ambitions and insatiable deep need for media attention, to "be somebody". Also tired of the WHO head administrator, Tedros Adhanom, who uses "Dr." BEFORE his name, I am sure with the intent to be taken for an M.D., and who, although head of public health in.... let's see, where was it, Ethiopia I believe, does not actually hold any M.D. or Ph.D. in a non medical/scientific field. Unfortunately, the people of our country, and many others, do not chose the most qualified or the most naturally gifted in medicine, research, the law, etc., no, we go for the self promoters, the ones who hire a behind the scenes publicist, even in academia. No, it's not quite the same as those who work as entertainment/Hollywood promoters, but it's the same principle. They guide you in how to promote some pretty flimsy articles based on very poor research perimeters, poorly designed studies, and then "promote" this garbage "science" with the smoke and mirrors that serve to impress the vast majority of citizens who have no idea what to look for in a well constructed research study.... the variables, the standard deviations, the margins of error and what that might mean, etc. Believe me, the "cream" does not naturally rise to the top, these folks are self promoters and plan every inch of their "career" rise. They know quite smugly, they are of course, "smarter than the average bear", kind of like the self promoting architect of the Obama medical plan.... remember him on the hot mike ? Too bad, most American's spend a lot more time and research into what color automobile they will buy, than who they catapult to the highest positions and offices, even when it comes to their HEALTH and their education and the education of their children. Don't think it is likely to change either, many could not care less.

Absolutely agree 100%...

Accidental1 02-25-2021 07:04 AM

Yes, but
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1907246)
:shrug:
Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.


Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.


:shrug:

You also replied to another post "Re-read...................a statement of fact is not condemning."

Yes, they are facts (partial) that lack context.

Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.

Fauci said, “Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.”

Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.

March 2020: Dr. Anthony Fauci talks with Dr Jon LaPook about Covid-19 - YouTube

DONKEY10 02-25-2021 07:04 AM

Dr. Fauci is an ego maniac with a Napolean syndrome. I wouldn't listen to him if he was the last doctor on earth. Should have been fired by Trump a long tome ago.

crc19188 02-25-2021 07:05 AM

Wow all my life I put faith in GOD. Fauci is not smarter and did not keep me alive. The Lord above will help us. We just need to praise him.

Bay Kid 02-25-2021 07:08 AM

Half million a year is lots of money to be paid, but he is good at keeping everyone confused. Lifer government employee.

Petersweeney 02-25-2021 07:12 AM

Is he the only one who knows about COVID? I’d like to hear from other MDs and researchers please ..... why are we putting all the eggs in his basket?

Cobullymom 02-25-2021 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1907391)
That goes straight to his credibility. If you're saying he lied because his boss told him to, that shows lack of integrity. Would you lie because your boss told you to? I know if my boss told me to lie I would either ignore his order or find another job. If your word is no good anything you say is suspect.

Bingo

Joanne D 02-25-2021 07:21 AM

Peace, love and well wishes to all. Read and listen to what you see and hear about the virus. Consider all and take in what you want but know that Beliefs are hard to change and no one can change your beliefs but you. The virus is evolving just like the advise so what was said or promoted in the past may be changed now to attack the virus or viruses we are now facing. Nothing is static.

Stay safe!

coffeebean 02-25-2021 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oneclickplus (Post 1907560)
Really? All promotional material relating to the Covid-19 Vaccine is required to clearly and conspicuously state that this product has not been approved or licensed by the FDA, but has been authorized for emergency use by FDA.

Anyone who takes this vaccine is a voluntary guinea pig.

Yes, I'm aware the vaccines are not yet approved by the FDA and I would hope all people who are welcoming this vaccine are aware also. FDA approval will come along in good time, I believe. In the meantime, these mRNA vaccines are saving lives and have shown to also prevent the long haul effects of Covid. I spend half my time researching this information. I honestly try my best to pass on information from reliable sources.

I can not find any information on line about the vaccines preventing long haul side effects so I must have heard that from one of the resident doctors on a TV news source. I do remember being very encouraged by hearing about that.

JoelJohnson 02-25-2021 07:26 AM

"When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do?"

graciegirl 02-25-2021 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1907246)
:shrug:
Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.


Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.


:shrug:

Early on, the pooled information of the experts of the world was very limited.

Every single soul was bamboozled by this virus. Even people schooled in medicine admit to being surprised and not able to get information initially, simply because there was none.

Pandemics are not common and each has it's own symptoms and death tolls. People who counted dead bodies from this were unsure how to do it. People who treated people with Covid-19 had no background information on this different kind of pneumonia and blood vessels being clogged and seniors dying in higher numbers.

Fauci had a lot of background knowledge on all kinds of epidemics and lots of information on how viruses and bacteria affect people, but not any information on this one at the beginning. All medical people were floundering at the beginning. I think he did well, considering the political powers that had far less information being critical of his information.

All those involved did the best they could. Well most of them anyway. I am not a medical person. I am just an 81 year old observer of life and I have been gravely disappointed in people this last year by some, and had my faith renewed in mankind by others.

I am YOUR fan, DeWilson. I am also a fan of the OP, although we don't always see things exactly the same.

lcarlson 02-25-2021 07:34 AM

Isn't that the truth.
It seems the world is full of hate and lies!!

DeanFL 02-25-2021 07:46 AM

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I'm the OP for this Fauci (now spelled right...) Thread. Interesting posts and feedback from many sides folks. But - I am not swayed to change my original views. And FYI - here's more feedback to support my "Fauci Fatigue".

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Senior analyst Brit Hume laid into public policymakers Tuesday for appearing to solely rely on Dr. Anthony Fauci for guidance on the coronavirus pandemic and shutting out scientists from other fields.

"He’s an epidemiologist," Hume told Katie Pavlich of Fauci. "His job is to fight this disease. He’s not an expert in child psychology, or children’s education. He’s not an expert on whether cancer screenings can be postponed when there’s lockdowns that are affecting hospitals. He’s not an authority on the U.S. economy or the damage that may be done to it. He’s just not. That’s somebody else’s problem and it’s not his."

Hume then criticized governors who locked down their states last year based on Fauci’s ever-evolving messaging.

"When we as a nation turn over all of our policies [that] this pandemic touches upon or [is] touched upon by it, to a person with a very narrow focus, we end up with these insane lockdowns and we end up with collateral damage about which he seems unconcerned, because it’s not in his bailiwick, and we end up with the terrible problems that we’ve had," he said.

"When they talk about 'Follow the science,' the question becomes, which science? Economics is a science. Cardiology is a branch of science … If you only listen to some scientists instead of looking through a broader lens, you end up with the kind of policy decisions we’ve made. I think these lockdowns and the closing of the schools are the worst public policy decisions of my lifetime."

For much of the mainstream media, Fauci has achieved a kind of iconic status since the coronavirus and COVID-19 became a despised part of American life. But in a tweet on Tuesday, Hume issued a reminder of the limits of Fauci’s responsibility — and his expertise.

“Remember: his job is to fight the Covid outbreak,” Hume wrote. “He has no responsibility for children’s mental health or education. The economy is someone else’s problem. So are missed cancer screenings; suicides and other collateral damage from lockdowns etc.”

While Hume laid much of the responsibility at the feet of public officials, there was another group he called out.

"A great deal of responsibility for our unfortunate responses belongs with the news media, which has been terrible in this."

Fauci, director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, seemed to say the existence and spreading use of the coronavirus vaccines would not mean a break from COVID-19 restrictions for the general population any time soon.

“There are things, even if you’re vaccinated, that you’re not going to be able to do in society,” Fauci said, according to Business Insider. “For example, indoor dining, theaters, places where people congregate. That’s because of the safety of society.”

Now, it’s “because of the safety of society”?

That’s the latest, nebulous line from Fauci, who might well be respected in his field for a good reason, but has squandered his credibility over his year in the public eye.

Hume is not the only one suffering from Fauci fatigue. (It would probably be harder to find a sane person who hasn’t had it with the doctor by now.)
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gemini5001 02-25-2021 08:00 AM

Yeah, and now he wants people to wear double masks....soon it'll be 3. SMDH !

Jokomo 02-25-2021 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 1907247)
I have zero confidence in someone who changes his mind more often than a hooker at a bankers convention and believes The Who is doing a good job.

The Who hasn’t been the same since Keith Moon died.

conman5652@aol.com 02-25-2021 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1907219)
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Many times in the last year during Covid-19, I felt that Dr. Faucci was very informative, engaging, and presented information well. During the last months, my attitude has changed. I now feel that he is a Media hog, bends to political influence, and does not consider other factors impacting our overall "Health". There are many of Faucci quotes during the past 12 months that are confusing and erroneous.

But NOW I agree with Rubio> "Dr. Fauci is a very good public-health official. His job is to advise policy makers and inform the public," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said on Tuesday. "But his job is NOT to decide what we can do, where we can go or which places can open or close And his job is NOT to mislead or scare us into doing the 'right things.'"

And his floundering of opening schools and lockdowns- terrible.

But his LATEST --- Fauci on Sunday declined to say on CNN that grandparents who are fully vaccinated could see their grandchildren, saying "I don't want to be making a recommendation now on public TV. I would want to sit down with the team, take a look at that."

So, if Faucci represents "Science", that's fine - but just as important to the Medical HEALTH of US citizens is Financial Health and Emotional Health. I don't believe that he takes everything into consideration for us all in terms of OVERALL Health.

Side note> Do you know that Faucci makes more in salary than the US President?

His knowledge and response are based on playing it safe. He only wants to guide us not tell us what to do. That not is job. His options are based on scientific research and first hand knowledge. So do kill the messenger and don’t play it safe. So if u don’t like him that’s fine. But don’t blame him for practicing safe science

BruggsNC1 02-25-2021 08:04 AM

In the medical field there is always testing and new Data coming into light. As that NEW information is discovered, new advice is dispensed. It is not being "wishy-washy". It is just dispensing the Best advice for the Data that is currently known.

Villages Kahuna 02-25-2021 08:07 AM

Not me!

He’s been doing his job for decades and has forgotten more about infectious diseases than you think you know. The good doc is the most reliable and non-political source of COVID information that is available.

By the way, why don’t you learn the proper spelling of his name.

Tmarkwald 02-25-2021 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matandch (Post 1907556)
Only when at least 80% of the population is vaccinated can we think about returning to normalcy.

All of the vaccines out there have an efficacy of around 95%. If you’ve been fully vaccinated you should behave like you’re one of the 5% until we hit the 80% vaccinated necessary for herd immunity.

You nailed it - this article says it all. 80% is the number for sure... Just read through to the end...

Fact check: Vaccination helped eliminate smallpox

Windguy 02-25-2021 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1907246)
Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.
Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.

A: Welcome to the wonderful world of science where scientists use actual data to inform them instead of sticking to some dogma despite conflicting evidence.

B: In the early days, there was a shortage of masks and he and others wanted them to go to people most in need instead of the greedy, idiotic hoarders.

Would you really rather scientists stick to their original hypotheses forever instead of adjusting recommendations as new data come in?


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