[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

So from that last sentence I am SUPPOSED to believe that the larger, longer than Pitch and Putt golf courses, that have had MORE trees removed for fairway grass are going to be better for flood control than the less tree REMOVAL for Pitch and Putt. Somehow I can't believe that. That would mean that the small roots of grass would prevent FLOODING better than the large roots of trees.
.........I HAVE actually removed the roots of a LARGE tree and it was much harder than the removal of the grassroots. So I LOGICALLY concluded that tree roots would RESIST water flooding better than grassroots. And in the event of a flood, the trees' leaves would help evaporate the water while the grassroots would be UNDERWATER.

Once again, many of these courses have been built on former COW PASTURES, which don't have a lot of trees to begin with!

And no, the blades of grass don't prevent flooding, the fairways are intentionally allowed to flood during hurricanes, so that the houses won't.

EVERYBODY knows this!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

My point about the world's forests was PERFECTLY valid in this thread because the main point of the thread is whether to emphasis large long golf courses or smaller Pitch and Putts. And it doesn't matter about the Villages purchasing "old cow pastures" because we are talking about what they DO with them AFTER they purchase them.........they THEN have a choice of building Pitch and Putts INSTEAD of longer courses and then using the additional acreage to then plant MORE trees and make something like a wilderness walking path or a park with lots of trees. TV Land may have enough LONG golf courses and NEED more actual NATURE available for the Villagers to USE and APPRECIATE. There is a choice and a tradeoff........for example a PARK is less expensive to MAINTAIN than a GOLF course. More people would use the PARK.

You mean walking paths like Hogs Eye Trail, that meanders thru THE TREES that they DID NOT CUT DOWN???

Did you not read the many posts in this thread about people complaining that they were building TOO MANY PITCH AND PUTTS AND NOT ENOUGH EXECUTIVE AND CHAMPIONSHIP COURSES???

But you're right... No one wants to play on the bigger courses because golf is of no interest to the younger retirees...

A while back, my buddy and I were driving down to one of the exec courses thru March bend area and he commented that he was impressed that TV had left SO MUCH LAND UNDEVELOPED along the MMP and nearby walking trail. And that no other developer would do that...

And based on the number of golf rounds played per year in TV, no more people would use the golf courses...

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Once again, many of these courses have been built on former COW PASTURES, which don't have a lot of trees to begin with!

And no, the blades of grass don't prevent flooding, the fairways are intentionally allowed to flood during hurricanes, so that the houses won't.

EVERYBODY knows this!

And also once again, I would say that it matters NOT, and not anything, about what the land was used for BEFORE THE VILLAGES purchased it. It could have been used for passenger pigeon races, snipe hunts, or a drag strip. The Villages has the wherewithal to turn about anything into anything. They could cut trees, they could plant saplings, they could have brought in mature palms or other trees. It ONLY matters what they DO AFTER they buy land. What they usually do after they buy land is move in GIANT EARTH MOVING equipment and TEAR the crappola out of anything animal or vegetable that gets in their way. Then they do homes and golf courses or WHATEVER they want. Lately, they have REALIZED that younger 50-year-olds are NOT quite as enamored by the large, long golf courses as other sports (like softball) and the shorter pitch and putt courses. So, they are bending to demand......like "bend the knee" in Game of Thrones. I hope this prevents my further getting misquoted.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

You mean walking paths like Hogs Eye Trail, that meanders thru THE TREES that they DID NOT CUT DOWN???

Did you not read the many posts in this thread about people complaining that they were building TOO MANY PITCH AND PUTTS AND NOT ENOUGH EXECUTIVE AND CHAMPIONSHIP COURSES???

But you're right... No one wants to play on the bigger courses because golf is of no interest to the younger retirees...

A while back, my buddy and I were driving down to one of the exec courses thru March bend area and he commented that he was impressed that TV had left SO MUCH LAND UNDEVELOPED along the MMP and nearby walking trail. And that no other developer would do that...

And based on the number of golf rounds played per year in TV, no more people would use the golf courses...

I have noticed the situation as quite the opposite. I notice areas left with trees to be swampy or otherwise unsuitable for building houses. I have NOT looked at every walking trail in TV Land, so some may be built on high ground. But, also some walking areas could be just money in the bank to allow builders to return in the future and build houses.
........I remember that where there once was a fenced-in acreage for a herd of buffalo, but now today on 466 there are stores and assisted living. This amounts to both progress and the big bucks.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Once again, many of these courses have been built on former COW PASTURES, which don't have a lot of trees to begin with!

And no, the blades of grass don't prevent flooding, the fairways are intentionally allowed to flood during hurricanes, so that the houses won't.

EVERYBODY knows this!

Not sure how "intentional" that was about the houses being built on higher ground than the (UGG) long golf fairways. Maybe it is just natural for the homes to look DOWN on the (re-ugg) long golf fairways rather than the homes looking UP at the (re-re-ugg) long golf fairways. Plus waste stuff flows downhill and more (uggy) golf balls would go through more windows if the fairways were higher.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

You mean walking paths like Hogs Eye Trail, that meanders thru THE TREES that they DID NOT CUT DOWN???

Did you not read the many posts in this thread about people complaining that they were building TOO MANY PITCH AND PUTTS AND NOT ENOUGH EXECUTIVE AND CHAMPIONSHIP COURSES???

But you're right... No one wants to play on the bigger courses because golf is of no interest to the younger retirees...

A while back, my buddy and I were driving down to one of the exec courses thru March bend area and he commented that he was impressed that TV had left SO MUCH LAND UNDEVELOPED along the MMP and nearby walking trail. And that no other developer would do that...

And based on the number of golf rounds played per year in TV, no more people would use the golf courses...

Now, this isn't snark - this is an attempt at a CUTE JOKE.........here goes........wait for it.........is that buddy the hairy one in the picture with the 4 paws........what a cutie!

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I have noticed the situation as quite the opposite. I notice areas left with trees to be swampy or otherwise unsuitable for building houses. I have NOT looked at every walking trail in TV Land, so some may be built on high ground. But, also some walking areas could be just money in the bank to allow builders to return in the future and build houses.
........I remember that where there once was a fenced-in acreage for a herd of buffalo, but now today on 466 there are stores and assisted living. This amounts to both progress and the big bucks.

Tell me why the Buffalo were removed? I know do you?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Tell me why the Buffalo were removed? I know do you?

Wasn't their farts causing global warming????

Or did grandpa do something incredibly stupid.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Wasn't their farts causing global warming????

Or did grandpa do something incredibly stupid.

Waiting for jimjams reply.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

And also once again, I would say that it matters NOT, and not anything, about what the land was used for BEFORE THE VILLAGES purchased it. It could have been used for passenger pigeon races, snipe hunts, or a drag strip. The Villages has the wherewithal to turn about anything into anything. They could cut trees, they could plant saplings, they could have brought in mature palms or other trees. It ONLY matters what they DO AFTER they buy land. What they usually do after they buy land is move in GIANT EARTH MOVING equipment and TEAR the crappola out of anything animal or vegetable that gets in their way. Then they do homes and golf courses or WHATEVER they want. Lately, they have REALIZED that younger 50-year-olds are NOT quite as enamored by the large, long golf courses as other sports (like softball) and the shorter pitch and putt courses. So, they are bending to demand......like "bend the knee" in Game of Thrones. I hope this prevents my further getting misquoted.

Once again, you repeat the same false information...

They are building and have plans for 3-4 MORE Championship and 3-5 MORE Executive courses...

The current Pitch & putt and Putting courses were added in as a fill in for land that was too small for bigger courses. NOT because of a lagging interest in golf...

And they DO plant mature palms and all sorts of trees, bushes and other ground cover. The even do it on those dreaded championship and executive golf courses that no one plays on anymore, since they're too crowded (with a nod to Yogi...)

You would know that if you ever actually visited a golf course. But you'd rather make up nonsense...

Yes, they could buy cow pastures and replant them into a forest. IF THEY WERE INSANE... What developer anywhere would do such a foolish thing?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I have noticed the situation as quite the opposite. I notice areas left with trees to be swampy or otherwise unsuitable for building houses. I have NOT looked at every walking trail in TV Land, so some may be built on high ground. But, also some walking areas could be just money in the bank to allow builders to return in the future and build houses.
........I remember that where there once was a fenced-in acreage for a herd of buffalo, but now today on 466 there are stores and assisted living. This amounts to both progress and the big bucks.

You're living in a fantasy land...

You really think that once all of the underground infrastructure is in place, and all the houses are built out, that they will return and add MORE houses to a village? Where do you come up with such nonsense?

And the buffalo were removed because some idiots kept wanting to pet them and got injured. Now, they were left with vacant land. They used that land for another purpose... They saw a need and addressed it...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Not sure how "intentional" that was about the houses being built on higher ground than the (UGG) long golf fairways. Maybe it is just natural for the homes to look DOWN on the (re-ugg) long golf fairways rather than the homes looking UP at the (re-re-ugg) long golf fairways. Plus waste stuff flows downhill and more (uggy) golf balls would go through more windows if the fairways were higher.

Ugg (sic), more nonsense...You know absolutely nothing about water management on a golf course...

Of course the golf course is built lower than the houses. They WANT that extra water. It decreases the need for watering.

I used to live on a TPC course in MD. EVERY SINGLE HOUSE was built higher than the adjacent course... It's done ON PURPOSE...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Tell me why the Buffalo were removed? I know do you?

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Wasn't their farts causing global warming????

Or did grandpa do something incredibly stupid.

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Waiting for jimjams reply.

Sorry, I wrecked the surprise... I posted the answer before I saw your questions... My bad...

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Not sure how "intentional" that was about the houses being built on higher ground than the (UGG) long golf fairways. Maybe it is just natural for the homes to look DOWN on the (re-ugg) long golf fairways rather than the homes looking UP at the (re-re-ugg) long golf fairways. Plus waste stuff flows downhill and more (uggy) golf balls would go through more windows if the fairways were higher.

It’s called civil engineering - rain water management, it is not an accident.

[Two Bills]

I have to laugh at all the moans about how far people have to travel for shops and golf.
No one travels more than 15 minutes anywhere in TV (unless on foot) to a shop or golf course.
I will wager that the majority traveled a whole lot further in their previous homes.
I agree infrastucture went in before homes "Up North" in previous years, but everything will come to those who wait!