[tv2016]

If you haven’t seen these 3 holes yourself, it might be hard to realize how bad they are. Something went wrong.

[terryf484]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

No, I did not mean aeration and top dressing.
Seen sanded greens and tee boxes, as in pictures, on many occasions on courses, some they spike, others just sanded.
I even spike and sand my lawn at home once a year.

I don't believe those are sanded greens, I played Bonita Springs a couple of weeks ago and every green was in terrible shape, looking alot like what is posted above. Hardly any grass on them, appears there is some sort of disease that has killed the grass. Almost impossible to putt on them.

[NoMo50]

It is a real Catch-22 For the executive courses this time of year. There is tremendous pressure for tee times with the added population, and closing courses would lead to people screaming. It is not the growing season, and it takes a very long time to rejuvenate a green this time of year, so people scream about that, too. My belief is that many of these courses are being kept open simply to satisfy the demand for tee times. I look for many of them to be closed in the spring in order to properly rehab the greens.

[DrHitch]

So, the monthly amenity fee pays for maintenance of executive courses (among lots of other things), but the championship courses get funded differently?

Originally Posted by BrianL99

..... first to admit that the Championship courses are in abysmal condition, but that's a different story. They're privately owned and the owner is entitled to maintain them as he feels necessary and he's entitled to not serve the folks who don't like it.

The Executives are a whole different story. "Government" is not providing what they promised and charge for......

[vinricci]

Building more homes makes $$$; maintaining amenities costs them money. Collecting $180.00 per month from 75,000 or so homes brings in $13,500,000.00 monthly.

[zigzag]

My understanding is that the Developer turned over management and maintenance of the Championship courses (retaining ownership) to local governance (us) as it's presently done on the Executive Courses. This means "we" are responsible for the condition of the courses as "we" manage the operations department. An e-mail followed by a call to the Executive Golf Maintenance head to ask about Tarpon Boil two weeks ago has not been returned. So in essence, we're doing this, poor maintenance, to ourselves. My suggestion is to contact our local, elected, commissioners with complaints.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by DrHitch

So, the monthly amenity fee pays for maintenance of executive courses (among lots of other things), but the championship courses get funded differently?

The Championship courses are privately owned (by the Developer).

Admittedly, the relationship is complicated. The Championship courses provide management for the Executive courses at some level and as of the end of last year, all (or mostly all) of the Championship courses' employees (starters, ambassadors, etc) are employees of the CDD and contracted to the Developer/Championship courses.

I freely admit to being confused by all the inter-relationships, but the answer to your question is ... in theory, no portion of the Amenity Fees go to the Championship courses and no portion of money spent at a "Championship Club" goes to the CDD.

[Davonu]

Originally Posted by Ron Hamilton

...I was told from a fellow golfer playing that the sister course RedFish Run was just as bad...

Yeah, except that RedFish Run greens (and I use that term loosely ) were black, not white. Must be some sort of maintenance. I still enjoyed the round. Maintenance is required on occasion.

[G.R.I.T.S.]

What did the golf department say when you called?

[bagboy]

Originally Posted by G.R.I.T.S.

What did the golf department say when you called?

See post #21

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by zigzag

My understanding is that the Developer turned over management and maintenance of the Championship courses (retaining ownership) to local governance (us) as it's presently done on the Executive Courses. This means "we" are responsible for the condition of the courses as "we" manage the operations department. An e-mail followed by a call to the Executive Golf Maintenance head to ask about Tarpon Boil two weeks ago has not been returned. So in essence, we're doing this, poor maintenance, to ourselves. My suggestion is to contact our local, elected, commissioners with complaints.

My understanding, was the Developer decided to transfer their Championship Golf Course employees to the CDD and contract with the CDD's to provide services. The reports I read, didn't say "maintenance" employees or maintenance contracts were changed in any way.

https://www.**************.com/2023/...-golf-courses/

[wamley]

Played Bonita on Friday just as bad. Took it and Tarpon off our play list. Many 9 hole courses going this route and some Championship.Kilideere & Osprey at Evans Priarie are not worth the mone greens are flat, but mostly no grass just rolled soil..

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by terryf484

I don't believe those are sanded greens, I played Bonita Springs a couple of weeks ago and every green was in terrible shape, looking alot like what is posted above. Hardly any grass on them, appears there is some sort of disease that has killed the grass. Almost impossible to putt on them.

As the OP has not returned to update, can't confirm what is there.
But.
I bet the farm it is sand.
I use Silica Sand myself when I do my lawn.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

I bet the farm it is sand.
I use Silica Sand myself when I do my lawn.

There in lies the difference. You're putting it on a "lawn", which implies there's grass to begin with.

[Coley]

a shame, but they are quick!!