[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Camranhvet

Palmetto has been closed more than open the past year for the same reasons. The down time enabled them to correct the issue.

Yep! Hard to get grass to grow when every thing is dormant and is being stomped on, driven over and whacked with clubs and balls every few minutes, day after day.

[mntlblok]

Originally Posted by Dave951

We played Churchill, Lowlands,and Mickey Lee this past week. Greens were great. Reddish, Tarpon, and Bonita are terrible. They should be closed impossible to putt on

Saw it speculated here that the problem is fungus related. Makes sense, but I'm surprised that what precisely is going on hasn't been communicated here or elsewhere by now. Would expect something that bizarre would have become common knowledge by now.

We played Tarpon Boil for the first time recently and witnessed those greens. Have never seen anything like it. A most memorable day, too, as the wind, the cold, and my swing were nearly as bad as the turf conditions, though my putting was little worse than usual. Oh, and there was that haughty, former politician we endured. :-)

Have played MickeyLee a couple of times lately and the putting surface has been immaculate each time. Oddly, when we played it last week, there were zero ball marks nor any any sign that there had *ever* been a ball mark made on those greens. I hit the ball particularly well that day but had many balls strike the greens ground from on high, yet bounce and roll far past where the ball mark "would have been". I use "soft" balls (second hand :-) ) and normally find a ball mark rather near the landing spot. Having recently read of new (to me) methods of repairing same, I was hoping to get in some "testing". It's apparently another of my oddball traits that I find ball mark repair to be a most satisfying and "fun" endeavor - even those not of my own making. Brings back long ago memories of learning about healing via primary vs. secondary intention. :-)

Which reminds me. I *still* have found no answer for my finding that, even on the same course on the same day (I mostly play the par threes), some holes will be loaded with ball marks (repaired and otherwise) whilst others will have nary an imperfection. What's up with that? Obviously, one would expect more such marks on a hole of such length that it regularly receives wedges rather than 4 irons, but the differences have also been noted amongst holes of comparable length. I've made that inquiry a *lot* with never a satisfactory answer. While I'm sure every patch of turf grass can't receive exactly the same amount of water, I imagine that they're all "pretty close" for any given course. Based on past experience, I imagine that I'll still be asking this same question years from now. :-) Something for which to look forward. . .

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by mntlblok

Which reminds me. I *still* have found no answer for my finding that, even on the same course on the same day (I mostly play the par threes), some holes will be loaded with ball marks (repaired and otherwise) whilst others will have nary an imperfection. What's up with that? Obviously, one would expect more such marks on a hole of such length that it regularly receives wedges rather than 4 irons, but the differences have also been noted amongst holes of comparable length. I've made that inquiry a *lot* with never a satisfactory answer. While I'm sure every patch of turf grass can't receive exactly the same amount of water, I imagine that they're all "pretty close" for any given course. Based on past experience, I imagine that I'll still be asking this same question years from now. :-) Something for which to look forward. . .

Inconsistent construction techniques. Ball Divots are related to the softness (wetness, usually) of the Greens. If the underlining material is consistent, ball marks will typically consistent. If the underlying material of the Green isn't uniform, ball marks won't be, either.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Daddymac

Sanding Spiking ??? NO ITS CALL PAINTING SAND!!! Close the course and get it fixed!!

Sorry. I do not have the authority.
You may have, or you could instruct the powers that be to do your bidding.

[mntlblok]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Inconsistent construction techniques. Ball Divots are related to the softness (wetness, usually) of the Greens. If the underlining material is consistent, ball marks will typically consistent. If the underlying material of the Green isn't uniform, ball marks won't be, either.

While that would be a perfectly reasonable "cause", it strains credulity that the folks overseeing such a "specialty" type construction would allow such a wide variation. I suppose that's "possible", but. . .

Reminds me of what we've witnessed here with the amazing rapidity of home construction. I have a bit of assembly line work way back in my background and have seen some incredible skills (in others) who have put in enough "reps". My sense is that such folks tend to figure out what works and then hone it.

But, that does give me food for thought. Drainage has to factor in there somewhere, eh? Hmmm. Wonder if the paucity of ball marks might correlate with more elevated greens or more "uphill" type tee shots. . .

[mntlblok]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Inconsistent construction techniques. Ball Divots are related to the softness (wetness, usually) of the Greens. If the underlining material is consistent, ball marks will typically consistent. If the underlying material of the Green isn't uniform, ball marks won't be, either.

That also reminds me that I *think* that I can "feel" variations in the softness of greens as I tread. But, that also has not seemed to correlate with ball markness. My sophistication in matters of taste, though, has always landed well down in the lower percentiles.

Shall avoid any attempt to correlate green speed with hardness of surface or ball mark propensity, as judging the speed of greens shall apparently always lie beyond my capabilities.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by mntlblok

Shall avoid any attempt to correlate green speed with hardness of surface or ball mark propensity, as judging the speed of greens shall apparently always lie beyond my capabilities.

Smoothness, not hardness if the key to green speed.

[mntlblok]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Smoothness, not hardness if the key to green speed.

Can sorta see how that would be - friction and all. Sadly, they all look to be of about the same "smoothness" to me. :-( Well, with the exception of those recent Tarpon Boil greens that brought to mind a particularly expansive case of geographic tongue. geographic tongue - Google Search

[ladila389]

Originally Posted by Ron Hamilton

My wife and I played golf on Tarpon Boil Executive golf course yesterday and the course was horrific. EVERY GREEN were like the pictures attached. Whoever is in charge of making the decision if a course should be open, should be replaced. Better yet, make them waste 2 hrs of their day trying to putt on them, and then remove them. They should be ashamed. I was told from a fellow golfer playing that the sister course RedFish Run was just as bad. What's going on here in the villages? It's so sad.

It costs $$$ for Course Management!:grumpy it will be better when we get some snow!

[jrandall]

Originally Posted by Ron Hamilton

My wife and I played golf on Tarpon Boil Executive golf course yesterday and the course was horrific. EVERY GREEN were like the pictures attached. Whoever is in charge of making the decision if a course should be open, should be replaced. Better yet, make them waste 2 hrs of their day trying to putt on them, and then remove them. They should be ashamed. I was told from a fellow golfer playing that the sister course RedFish Run was just as bad. What's going on here in the villages? It's so sad.

We played Redfish Run last Tuesday and it was as bad as your pictures are showing. In my 35 years of playing golf I have never seen greens or should I say sand and some green spots as bad as this.

[MX rider]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

How? How soon would you expect improvement to "good".? My point is, short of total replacement, it will take time. Either way, the course should be closed.
For the starter to tell you "take two" is telling me, he advocate cheating. In my case, it would improve my game.

The greens were so bad, putting was a joke. That's why he said that. Course needs to be closed.

[MX rider]

Originally Posted by Camranhvet

Palmetto has been closed more than open the past year for the same reasons. The down time enabled them to correct the issue.

Obviously it worked. They need to close Tarpon and Redfish for sure. I've never seen greens so bare.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by MX rider

The greens were so bad, putting was a joke. That's why he said that. Course needs to be closed.

"The grees were so bad" made me think you had the set up for a great punch line.
That's OK. I can't come up with a good punch line either.
(Sigh) 😔

[mntlblok]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

"The grees were so bad" made me think you had the set up for a great punch line.
That's OK. I can't come up with a good punch line either.
(Sigh) 😔

I miss Johnny, too.

[Bay Kid]

That is pitiful. They should be closed.