[john2]

They pay minimum wage and expect to get experienced and hard workers to work in the heat all day. Not going to happen!!!

[rubicon]

Played Bonifay yesterday and it was decent with the exception of a few greens stil somewhat scarred.

[mulligan]

Originally Posted by john2

They pay minimum wage and expect to get experienced and hard workers to work in the heat all day. Not going to happen!!!

Not true.

[karostay]

Originally Posted by waynet

The conditions on the champ courses are never exceptional. At times they are good. But much of the time they are horrible for any number of reasons or excuses offered. Ownership takes advantage of priority members and those that play these champ courses. We pay a premium to play. It is not cheap to play them. Ownership even though they are making lots of money has decided to go cheap in every way possible hence the conditions.

[collie1228]

Palmer (Laurel to Riley Grove on Tuesday this week) - 4
Lopez (Ashley to Erin last Friday) - 1
Mallory (Amelia to Caroline the previous Tuesday) - 2

The Palmer greens were very nice - plenty of grass and the ball rolled really well. Best greens I've seen in The Villages since the Fall. Lopez was a disgrace. The aeration schedule showed there had been a couple of weeks to heal the greens, but they looked and played just terrible. You couldn't keep a putt on line. Mallory not great, but playable.

[gage405]

I really think we would enjoy the championship courses much more if they would just
let the fairways grow in a bit. I don't understand why they cut them so short.
They could save some money if they missed a mowing or two.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by gage405

I really think we would enjoy the championship courses much more if they would just
let the fairways grow in a bit. I don't understand why they cut them so short.
They could save some money if they missed a mowing or two.

[CatskillBill]

Originally Posted by collie1228

Palmer (Laurel to Riley Grove on Tuesday this week) - 4
Lopez (Ashley to Erin last Friday) - 1
Mallory (Amelia to Caroline the previous Tuesday) - 2

The Palmer greens were very nice - plenty of grass and the ball rolled really well. Best greens I've seen in The Villages since the Fall. Lopez was a disgrace. The aeration schedule showed there had been a couple of weeks to heal the greens, but they looked and played just terrible. You couldn't keep a putt on line. Mallory not great, but playable.

June 16-21:
Palmer (Laurel Valley) 4*s, T-storms put a damper on playing Riley Grove

FYI Off Campus:
Juliette Falls, Stone Creek, & Grand Pines (Orlando) rate 5*s on everything from tee to greens IMHO.
Better play Grand Pines this year because Marriott has sold this property and the new owners are bulldozing it for more condos in Jan/Feb. What a shame!!!
From your report, Nancy wouldn't be thrilled if she saw it's condition. Surprised at a 2 for Mallory since they held the men's cup there this week.

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

I agree. We played Palmer recently and the greens were in decent shape. That course is usually pretty good, although it's obviously the most expensive. Lopez has not been great lately, in my experience.

[mtdjed]

I was complaining about Tarpon Boil last week and got my best score ever. Nice greens now. Let's face it if you are playing Executive golf , you should be there for the fun.

[clekr]

Played HH this afternoon - Oaks only. Greens are in such poor shape the course should be closed. This is not from areartion (sp.) but some such of fungus.

[dewilson58]

I've enjoyed seeing the "ratings" for this year/month/week.............to all the "seasoned" golfers..........how do the conditions of the courses today compare to the last five or ten years????

Just wondering the direction of conditions.

Thanks

[collie1228]

Our neighborhood group played Cane Garden yesterday (Jacaranda to Hibiscus - Allamanda was closed). We were really pleased with the condition of the course. The greens were very nice, reasonably fast with no trace of topdressing and I don't recall seeing any fungus or damage. Fairways are thick and feel like walking on carpet. There was actually some rough - It's nice to play a course where they are trying to replace some of the hard pan with real grass. We are playing Mallory again on Friday, and I'm hoping to see some improvement from the mediocre conditions last week.

[CatskillBill]

Originally Posted by collie1228

Our neighborhood group played Cane Garden yesterday (Jacaranda to Hibiscus - Allamanda was closed). We were really pleased with the condition of the course. The greens were very nice, reasonably fast with no trace of topdressing and I don't recall seeing any fungus or damage. Fairways are thick and feel like walking on carpet. There was actually some rough - It's nice to play a course where they are trying to replace some of the hard pan with real grass. We are playing Mallory again on Friday, and I'm hoping to see some improvement from the mediocre conditions last week.

Thanks for the update. I live near Cane and I looks a lot better than most. Haven't played it for two weeks. Do you know how long Allamanda will be closed and why?

[collie1228]

I didn't ask why Allamanda was closed. I noticed the flag was lying along the side of the first green, so I'm guessing the closure was short term.