[jbdlfan]

We just played it Saturday. Smelled like a hayfield with all the burnout. Not one hole had sufficient grass. They need to shut it down for a few months but that will never happen....

[spk7951]

Got to play nine on Bonifay Pensacola Monday as the course opened to play. My group liked the layout of this course and noted a fair amount of water in play. Elevated tee on #1 is interesting. Hole #9 I especially liked. It is a par 5 that with a good shot in the fairway should give you a good downhill roll and push the possibility of the green in two with water along the right side.

On the downside I am not sure this course is ready yet to be open. Fairways are a little burned but the greens were a bigger issue for us. Every green had slices cut in them maybe one foot apart across the entire green. I would guess this occurred maybe a couple of weeks ago but the greens needed more time to grow. Tough to putt with the bounces and ball getting into the groves. #9 green has a large area of replacement sod that does not appear to be healing very well.

All in all I do like this course and hope it does not get overused and burned out.

[Threeputt]

Go to Lopez OMG fairways like carpets! Greens fast

Glenview in good shpe also. Stay north of 466 for better conditions

Originally Posted by mickey100

Wow, sorry to hear about Havana, that's one of my favorite courses. We played Cane the other day, and they had opened up Hibiscus after a long closure, so we had Alamanda to Hibiscus. The greens on Alamanda were nothing special,but the fairways aren't bad. Hibiscus was ridiculous. The last 3 or 4 greens are so bad, I can't believe they've even opened the course up for play. With everyone gone in the summer, and so many other courses in good shape, why don't they just close down the bad courses and let them recover? And don't get me going on the weeds and poor greens on Amelia (Mallory). I guess we just have to keep using this forum to let people know how things stand, so we can make our reservations at the good courses.

Played Cane today Alamanda to Hibiscus and course is not in good shape at all. Should never have been opened. Poor greens and burnt fairways.

[spk7951]

Originally Posted by nkrifats

Played Cane today Alamanda to Hibiscus and course is not in good shape at all. Should never have been opened. Poor greens and burnt fairways.

A friend of mine, who happens to work at Cane, recently told me that an outside expert has supposedly been called in to help rectify the poor course conditions at Cane.

Originally Posted by spk7951

A friend of mine, who happens to work at Cane, recently told me that an outside expert has supposedly been called in to help rectify the poor course conditions at Cane.

Thanks, nice to hear. Hope they get it on the right path.

[soonfl]

Just played Cane today Sat 7/ 21

Alimanda is playable but Hibiscus is a mess.

Burn out everywhere. But oddly patches with square edges and there are the cart tracks. This does not look like a water problem. It looks chemical.

Paying for these greens is ridiculous. No grass is the norm.

I have walked Jacaranda. Its terrible. Some fairways have dead sod. No excuse. They plant sod and then let it die.

The sod was actually layer on top of the existing sod , no soil prep.
I find it hard to believe that this is a proper standard of care.

What is the logic here.


The other day The Golf management group used it Jacaranda for employee golf when the course is closed to the general public. Why?.

The ponds have been fouled with Hydrilla and pond scum.
They actually smell in the heat of the day. And very ugly.


I don't understand the quality control and over site.

And yes I have left a message for the super.

Play elsewhere. Give them a message.
I wish I knew how to get a petition together, I have had enough with the neglect.

[mickey100]

How terrible. I think what might help if is people write or call the head of golf operations and let him know your dissatisfaction. That happened when Orange Blossom got really bad a couple of years ago, and enough people complained that they went and got a new maintenance company to take over. And the course has been so much better this past year as a result. Time to do that with Cane and Mallory. They both are just awful. I can't remember the man's name - it might be John something. Does anyone else know the name/phone number of the head of golf operations?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by mickey100

How terrible. I think what might help if is people write or call the head of golf operations and let him know your dissatisfaction. That happened when Orange Blossom got really bad a couple of years ago, and enough people complained that they went and got a new maintenance company to take over. And the course has been so much better this past year as a result. Time to do that with Cane and Mallory. They both are just awful. I can't remember the man's name - it might be John something. Does anyone else know the name/phone number of the head of golf operations?

I don't have a name, here is the phone number.
•Call Country Club Administration at 352-753-3396 for more information on membership enhancements or other golf/tennis issues.

[nitehawk]

What does the maintenance company do --- move the holes every now and then, from one bare spot to another bare spot - there is no money spent on mowing the non existant grass -- no need to sprinkle, water restictions (need water for new homes) -- maintaine ponds (the holes next to the fairways) ?? oh i almost forgot they do raking of the sand traps (some residents dont have to rake- they are playing at a country club - maybe the caddy will rake for them or the maintance company will do it in the morning) only nicely designed course is orange blossom trees (shad) on some holes. As each course is built the design get worse and worse, just let the grass grow where the bufflo used to roam and put 18 hole in the gound. Great design guys. The Villages/ good life style/ Terrible golf courses i usually outside the villages for cheaper price and use there golf cart with better conditions. Played World Woods last week - good condition not great but good

[chuckster]

Sounds like your not happy at any course..........there's always pickleball orrrr shuffleboard. Bill how about some popcorn....

THANKS!!!

[Threeputt]

Originally Posted by nitehawk

What does the maintenance company do --- move the holes every now and then, from one bare spot to another bare spot - there is no money spent on mowing the non existant grass -- no need to sprinkle, water restictions (need water for new homes) -- maintaine ponds (the holes next to the fairways) ?? oh i almost forgot they do raking of the sand traps (some residents dont have to rake- they are playing at a country club - maybe the caddy will rake for them or the maintance company will do it in the morning) only nicely designed course is orange blossom trees (shad) on some holes. As each course is built the design get worse and worse, just let the grass grow where the bufflo used to roam and put 18 hole in the gound. Great design guys. The Villages/ good life style/ Terrible golf courses i usually outside the villages for cheaper price and use there golf cart with better conditions. Played World Woods last week - good condition not great but good

Most courses are around $20 after 11..... MUCH cheaper than outside the bubble
Try OG, Lopez, Glenview or Palmer ALL in excellent condition. Pensacola at Bonifay is brand new and in great shape.Play it before the golfers destroy it.

Don't drag down TV because of one course......just sayin

[mickey100]

Actually Cane and Mallory have both been pretty crummy. Awhile ago they were saying Hacienda was crap too but I haven't played there lately so don't know how it is now. If it is still not good, that would make 3 out of 10 in poor shape, i.e. 30%. Surely The Villages can do better than that! This is the time of year when the courses should be pristine - the greens were plugged not so long ago, we've had plenty of rain and fewer people playing them.

On another note, this is just a rumor, I heard that the maintenance guy for Cane was fired.

[nitehawk]

Originally Posted by jbdlfan

Oh boy......have you played Bonifay???!?!?!?! I will NEVER play that course again. It was absolutely the worse course I have played since I moved to Florida 5 years ago! They should just close it, it needs a year to repair itself!

Originally Posted by mickey100

When did you play, recently? I played it a couple months ago before the rain, and I agree it was horrible then, but just assumed that after plugging the greens, and having all the rain, it would be back in nice shape.

Originally Posted by jbdlfan

We just played it Saturday. Smelled like a hayfield with all the burnout. Not one hole had sufficient grass. They need to shut it down for a few months but that will never happen....

Originally Posted by spk7951

Got to play nine on Bonifay Pensacola Monday as the course opened to play. My group liked the layout of this course and noted a fair amount of water in play. Elevated tee on #1 is interesting. Hole #9 I especially liked. It is a par 5 that with a good shot in the fairway should give you a good downhill roll and push the possibility of the green in two with water along the right side.

On the downside I am not sure this course is ready yet to be open. Fairways are a little burned but the greens were a bigger issue for us. Every green had slices cut in them maybe one foot apart across the entire green. I would guess this occurred maybe a couple of weeks ago but the greens needed more time to grow. Tough to putt with the bounces and ball getting into the groves. #9 green has a large area of replacement sod that does not appear to be healing very well.

All in all I do like this course and hope it does not get overused and burned out.

Originally Posted by Threeputt

Most courses are around $20 after 11..... MUCH cheaper than outside the bubble
Try OG, Lopez, Glenview or Palmer ALL in excellent condition. Pensacola at Bonifay is brand new and in great shape.Play it before the golfers destroy it.

Don't drag down TV because of one course......just sayin

I rest my case- Please pass the cool-aid

[waynet]

with the money the Morse family gets from us there is no valid reason for any of the golf courses being in bad shape. All I hear are empty excuses. People it's all about the money they put into these courses,plain and simple. Yes, I'm bummed out,Cane is my favorite layout,it's one of the reasons I bought a home in Duval. Hire people who know what they are doing,give them a reasonable budget, and get on with it.