I like fast greens, their so much easier to putt on and the breaks on putts are more true and easier to read.

[fred53]

Originally Posted by JGVillages

Augusta National at 9, NEVER ~ 10, on a rainy bad day~ 11, OK their slow fast.
Speeds 9-11 regularily~
World Woods~Homassa / Juliette Falls~Ocala / Red Tail~Sorento / Mission Inn El Campeion~Howey-in-the Hills just to name a few. Spring/Summer/Fall rates in the non-wicked $35-$45 range. Winter rates a bit higher but not wicked.
PS~ 9 or 10 are not tournament speeds normally.

in the 60's they didn't have the stimpmeter and if you watch old Masters from that era they ran about 8/9...

[fred53]

Originally Posted by JGVillages

Consider me, and my golf buddies one of the "many". I played 9-11 speed greens all my playing life before moving here. Been here 9 1/2 years and I would like to play faster greens for awhile and let others "adjust", just to even things out.

you're one of the few...out of millions of golfers who experience what you claim... very few courses maintain anything over a 9+...to much stress...to much work...quite a few private courses do maintain about a 10, but I seriously doubt your claim to an 11 unless your course had huge flatish greens and a monster overhead...

Perhaps bragging rights? Like...I average 275/280 off the tee...with 60 yards of roll and 70yd wide fairways...no offense, but I suppose if you're accustomed to paying $200+ green fees you could chase the speedy greens from course to course...11 on the stimp is like putting on smooth cement...so if your claim is true you must be near scratch or even a + hndcp...possible for sure...

[golf2140]

According to Yogi, 98% of the putts that are short of the hole, won't go in. !!!

[JGVillages]

Originally Posted by fred53

in the 60's they didn't have the stimpmeter and if you watch old Masters from that era they ran about 8/9...

In the 60's they did not have the advanced strains of grasses that the USGA and others have developed. The Villages has Bermuda which is grainy and needs overseading. Many southern courses have converted to different types of Champion which does not need overseeding and is significantly less grainy. When we converted from Beremuda to Champion at Riverwood GC in Port Charlotte, FL we were able to keep greenspeeds easily at 9+ with considerable course traffic.
It comes down to what the Club owners and members want for putting surfaces. It seems faster greens are not a priority with GMS or the majority of resident members here. Since we have 12 Championship courses could we not have a few that promote faster speeds to appease the possibly 30% of residents that prefer that?

[DonH57]

What I love most about playing golf is it seems there is always a change in course conditions and other factors that make the game challenging and I'm trying to always learn more. If there's not a change in courses or weather my body is doing something different day to day.