[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by FredMitchell

Certainly the ride is not required. Make a deal with the driver. He doesn't smoke, or you walk. At least you don't need to carry the bag. If you are the driver, he smokes only while walking.

If you can't walk 18 holes, maybe it is time for a new sport. Water volleyball, pickleball, shuffleboard, cornhole. Or bridge, pool, etc.

Freddy, you're not that clueless R U???

This is a retirement community with the average well over 70.

(& old walkers will create six hour rounds)

[jminnis]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Starter said, new rule....absolutely no more than 2 carts. No different reservation exceptions.

Ride with strangers who smoke.

I am always a single, so I have run into this a couple of times. The first time, I was teamed up with three players. When I was told to leave my cart and put my clubs on the stranger's cart I refused. We played 19 holes (Hacienda) with three carts and no complaints. The second time I played Hacienda, the starter insisted I ride with the single in a threesome I was joined with. The guy was a cigar smoker and had a terrible cough. Sure enough, I caught a cold and was sick for a week. Not good. The optics of four carts at the tee or green is not good, but does that really hurt the fairways? A cart has to drive up to each ball eventually. The 90-degree rule is a good way of preventing everyone driving onto the fairway at the same spot, leaving a worn path....

[KenLee100]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Starter said, new rule....absolutely no more than 2 carts. No different reservation exceptions.

Ride with strangers who smoke.

It depends on the starter.
The rules are tighter with some female starters. Choose your course wisely.
If the rule is cart path only, why does it matter?

[KJ Dave]

Well, it might help after all the “visitors” leave all the courses destroyed from way over usage. When they leave, residents are left with few open courses for weeks/ months because of ten bazillion divots and tire trails. It’s akin to third world border invaders coming here, taking all they can get, use up all the resources then retreat to their ****holes.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by KJ Dave

Well, it might help after all the “visitors” leave all the courses destroyed from way over usage. When they leave, residents are left with few open courses for weeks/ months because of ten bazillion divots and tire trails. It’s akin to third world border invaders coming here, taking all they can get, use up all the resources then retreat to their ****holes.

Wow!

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Freddy, you're not that clueless R U???

This is a retirement community with the average well over 70.

(& old walkers will create six hour rounds)

You beat me to it Dewi, clueless. How long would it take a foursome with knee and hip replacements to walk from the 9th green at Laurel Valley to the first t box at Riley Grove? The ambassadors would have to start giving out pain medications : )

[CybrSage]

Do golfers really each want their own cart instead of being with a friend? Why is that?
One cart for 2 people I understand, a cart can only carry two sets of clubs.
I ask those who do golf because I do not golf and am looking to be informed.

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by jminnis

I am always a single, so I have run into this a couple of times. The first time, I was teamed up with three players. When I was told to leave my cart and put my clubs on the stranger's cart I refused. We played 19 holes (Hacienda) with three carts and no complaints. The second time I played Hacienda, the starter insisted I ride with the single in a threesome I was joined with. The guy was a cigar smoker and had a terrible cough. Sure enough, I caught a cold and was sick for a week. Not good. The optics of four carts at the tee or green is not good, but does that really hurt the fairways? A cart has to drive up to each ball eventually. The 90-degree rule is a good way of preventing everyone driving onto the fairway at the same spot, leaving a worn path....

This does not sound right. Why did you not sit with a nonsmoker or say that two smokers need to team up?
Smokers would see the logic in it and the starter would as well.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by CybrSage

Do golfers really each want their own cart instead of being with a friend? Why is that?
One cart for 2 people I understand, a cart can only carry two sets of clubs.
I ask those who do golf because I do not golf and am looking to be informed.

Not always a friend.

Can be a complete stranger.

Can be someone you golf with and is not a friend.

If a friend, may not like their habits, smell, conversation, etc.

[LeRoySmith]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

You beat me to it Dewi, clueless. How long would it take a foursome with knee and hip replacements to walk from the 9th green at Laurel Valley to the first t box at Riley Grove? The ambassadors would have to start giving out pain medications : )

If they start passing out happy pills I'll take up golf.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jminnis

I am always a single, so I have run into this a couple of times. The first time, I was teamed up with three players. When I was told to leave my cart and put my clubs on the stranger's cart I refused. We played 19 holes (Hacienda) with three carts and no complaints. The second time I played Hacienda, the starter insisted I ride with the single in a threesome I was joined with. The guy was a cigar smoker and had a terrible cough. Sure enough, I caught a cold and was sick for a week. Not good. The optics of four carts at the tee or green is not good, but does that really hurt the fairways? A cart has to drive up to each ball eventually. The 90-degree rule is a good way of preventing everyone driving onto the fairway at the same spot, leaving a worn path....

No, each cart DOES NOT get to drive up to their ball "eventually". The third cart gets to WALK up to his ball, the cart stays in the rough or on the cart path. That 3rd cart has to stay off the fairway for THE ENTIRE HOLE, not switch off. That's what save wear and tear on the fairways.

[Timothyimitchell]

Just keep them on the path. No fairways

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

No, each cart DOES NOT get to drive up to their ball "eventually". The third cart gets to WALK up to his ball, the cart stays in the rough or on the cart path. That 3rd cart has to stay off the fairway for THE ENTIRE HOLE, not switch off. That's what save wear and tear on the fairways.

That is the way the rule is supposed to be enforced, but the only course I know who actually tries to adhere to that standard, is Palmer.

All the other (Championship) courses, seem to allow "2 carts on the fairway at one time", which of course is nonsense and doesn't really meet the intended goal.

One a few occasions at Palmer, I've said ... "OK, you stay on the path on odd # holes, I'll stay on the path on the even #'d holes". The guys looked at me like I was speaking a foreign language.

Personally, I'd be fine if all the Championship courses were "Cart Path Only", but I doubt we'd ever see that happen. If they tried it, 99% of the golfers would have a "Handicap Permit" within a week.

Quite honestly, I've never figured out how it's fun to jump out of cart, hit the ball100 yards, get back in the cart and do it all over again ... for 4 hours.

[DrHitch]

Originally Posted by CybrSage

Do golfers really each want their own cart instead of being with a friend?

As an avid golfer, I have to agree with your comment... Whether it's riding with a friend that you have made a reservation with or a complete stranger that you met at the starter shack, why not hitch a ride?

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by DrHitch

As an avid golfer, I have to agree with your comment... Whether it's riding with a friend that you have made a reservation with or a complete stranger that you met at the starter shack, why not hitch a ride?

Not all of us are DrHitch.