[Lottoguy]

Actually I think the next hole #6 at El Diablo from the black tees is very hard. Water on the right and that bunker by the green swallows up golf balls all the time.

[rsimpson]

#6 - Amberwood - Longest Par 4 on Executive courses. 402 yards from the back tee box. Green is big, flat, and easy, but it takes two big hits to get near it.

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

What (with an explanation) is the most challenging hole on the executive courses from the back tees?

What (with an explanation) is the most challenging hole on the executive courses from the front tees?

#1 at Hilltop from both tees. Tiny green surrounded by bunkers. Each bunker is bigger than the green. Hope it was enlarged when they renovated the course.

2nd choice #2 at Oakleigh. Almost impossible to hit green due to huge bunker in front of green.

[Rainger99]

Originally Posted by Mortal1

If you have a good repeating swing and are "on" that day then no hole is really difficult unless the distance you can hit a club is less than the length of the hole being played. Otherwise(from experience)for most executive golfers every single hole may be difficult unless you can roll it from tee to green. Just the truth...as much as it hurts to hear.

I don't know what a "good repeating swing" is. When I watch the pros on television, they seem to spray it all over the course - sometimes left rough, sometimes right rough, sometimes out of bounds, and sometimes right down the middle. There are only three golfers on tour who hit 70% or more of their fairways. And Rory only hits about 53% of his fairways.

2022-23 PGA Tour - Drive Accuracy Leaders - CBSSports.com

For a par 3 between 125-150, the tour pro average is 69.34%

Golf Stat and Records | PGA TOUR

[Mleeja]

All of the holes mentioned are good choices. I am going add #9 at Redfish Run. Carry over water to a sloping two level green. Also, one of the prettiest holes.

[cjrjck]

back tees:

Pelican 1, 2, 9.
Mira Mesa 9.
Amberwood 3 and 7.
Bacall 7.
Belmont 7.
Gray Fox 4, 6, 7.
Oakleigh 9.

[Bay Kid]

Roosevelt #4 from the black. Truman #2, 3 and 4.

[Battlebasset]

Originally Posted by rsimpson

#3- Red Fox - This is one of the most picturesque AND toughest holes in TV.
The only Bailout is LONG. Hole can play 180 yds into the wind. Water all along left and front left of green. Trees all up the left side and close.
(Pelican has several 'mentally tough' holes - love the swamp shots!)

Agree, and it's right after the par 4 hole. For my skill level, the best thing to do is take a shorter, but straight shot. If you aren't that good (and I fully admit my shortcomings), trying to land it on the green is an exercise in frustration and ball loss.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

What (with an explanation) is the most challenging hole on the executive courses from the back tees?

What (with an explanation) is the most challenging hole on the executive courses from the front tees?

85 yard par 3 that I have to use my #1 driver.