[Challenger]

Originally Posted by Dana1949

American Capitalism is just PLAIN GREED!

Capitalism is an economic system. Greed is a human trait. Only people can be greedy. Greed exists whever there are people regardless of the economic system.

What do you wish to accomplish by making your stament about Capitalism?

[PennBF]

Although this is a generalization of the statement I remember the observation of a famous statement who said that when a majority of the population were aware of and qualified for entitlements and their number exceeded the ones not entitiled then the 200+ years of democracy would fall. The question is have we reached that critical path? If not I would
submit we are headed in that direciton on a fast path.

[donb9006]

Originally Posted by Challenger

Capitalism is an economic system. Greed is a human trait. Only people can be greedy. Greed exists whever there are people regardless of the economic system.

What do you wish to accomplish by making your stament about Capitalism?

Capitalism is a system designed by the greedy to serve the greedy. They stacked the deck long ago.

[Big O]

Originally Posted by donb9006

Capitalism is a system designed by the greedy to serve the greedy. They stacked the deck long ago.

Obviously you have a better system in mind. Please enlighten us.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by donb9006

Capitalism is a system designed by the greedy to serve the greedy. They stacked the deck long ago.

That is an entitled opinion or perception or prejudice...even though it happens to be incorrect (unless it was intended as humor....then I missed it).

btk

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by Challenger

Capitalism is not bankrupt, Capitalist in some cases are. The world is a tough place, but no system has ever come close to capitalism in producing prosperity for the greatest number of people. Our poor are wealthy compared to the needy in other countries , Go to Mumbi, Ja****a almost anywhere in urban africa and then reflect on the concept of poverty. The rich can only do a few things with their money; spend it(producing jobs and employment) give it away( helping others that are not so rich) or invest( providing the capital to build and grow commerce=jobs and income to others).

Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and 18 to 20 other Capitalists have just vowed to give at least half of the fortunes to charity. Hard to imagine that action as morally bankrupt.

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[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by donb9006

Capitalism is a system designed by the greedy to serve the greedy. They stacked the deck long ago.

Yes, like when the pioneers on this nation's frontiers resolved to live in a wood-frame or log house instead of a sod one.

There were probably bitter, resentful dirt house dwellers who called the wood-frame or log house owners "rich" and "greedy" too. But each one worked like a mule to carve out the woods or rocks or sod they built their place with.

Envy is the twin brother of Greed in the list of 7 Deadly Sins.

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

How do you feel about socialism?

More GOD like than capitalism. Capitalism is another word for greed and selfishness in my opinion.

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

More GOD like than capitalism. Capitalism is another word for greed and selfishness in my opinion.

From the Iron Lady-

"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money"

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by donb9006

Capitalism is a system designed by the greedy to serve the greedy. They stacked the deck long ago.

Very true and so many are victims even when they think they are a recipient.

[donb9006]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

Yes, like when the pioneers on this nation's frontiers resolved to live in a wood-frame or log house instead of a sod one.

There were probably bitter, resentful dirt house dwellers who called the wood-frame or log house owners "rich" and "greedy" too. But each one worked like a mule to carve out the woods or rocks or sod they built their place with.

Envy is the twin brother of Greed in the list of 7 Deadly Sins.

Ask the Native Americans what they though of that "capitalism"...a VERY fair system...isn't it. Best there is! ONLY for those who stack the deck. Ask the Africans what they thought of capitalism too. I bet they'd disagree it's "the best".

You think it was "noble" conquering this continent? It was conquered by greed, people wanting to make a buck, TAKING what they wanted from others who were already here. Have some more koolaid...they've got you hook line and sinker...believing their false "history" of the noble pioneer innocently being harassed by the natives. Farmers and ranchers living side by side in harmony.

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

Very true and so many are victims even when they think they are a recipient.

There's a lot of ignorance in the world...people don't like having their world view shattered. They start serving the koolaid at an early age. It's hard to resist the indoctrination...the brainwashing. Practically everything we THINK we know...ends up being wrong. "History" as written...is propaganda.

No wonder so many are so screwed up psychologically. We're constantly bombarded with lies. Take religion, they start when we're just babies. Babies, children, when bombarded with "religion", believe it to be true, it's VERY hard to change their views. Be it a Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindi, Buddhist, whatever religion, when the brainwashing begins at an early age, it's hard to reverse. Same goes for the twisted "history" we were all taught. The lies start early, and they're believed. throughout life.

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by donb9006

Ask the Native Americans what they though of that "capitalism"...a VERY fair system...isn't it. Best there is! ONLY for those who stack the deck. Ask the Africans what they thought of capitalism too. I bet they'd disagree it's "the best".

You think it was "noble" conquering this continent? It was conquered by greed, people wanting to make a buck, TAKING what they wanted from others who were already here. Have some more koolaid...they've got you hook line and sinker...believing their false "history" of the noble pioneer innocently being harassed by the natives. Farmers and ranchers living side by side in harmony.



There's a lot of ignorance in the world...people don't like having their world view shattered. They start serving the koolaid at an early age. It's hard to resist the indoctrination...the brainwashing. Practically everything we THINK we know...ends up being wrong. "History" as written...is propaganda.

No wonder so many are so screwed up psychologically. We're constantly bombarded with lies. Take religion, they start when we're just babies. Babies, children, when bombarded with "religion", believe it to be true, it's VERY hard to change their views. Be it a Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindi, Buddhist, whatever religion, when the brainwashing begins at an early age, it's hard to reverse. Same goes for the twisted "history" we were all taught. The lies start early, and they're believed. throughout life.

Good point there. Religious leaders have capitalism down so well, like big business, they don,t even pay taxes. LOL

[PennBF]

There is always a little truth in most things. The majority of people first decide what the want to believe and then they go about working to prove what they just decided. A good example is that 90% + follow a certain religion because they were raised that way by their parents. THey then spend the rest of their life proving to themselves they are right in the belief their parent have taught them. Few actually spend a life time trying to determine what they believe is right and then follow that belief even if it is different.. Some become damaged by the belief that was passed to them and they either become non believers or go to other routes.
Some of this "religion" belief can also be translated to beliefs in socialism, democracy, etc.etc. Your parent was a Demoncrat so you are a Democrat and will go to extreme limits to prove why you have the "true answer".
Kind of basic stuff.

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by donb9006

Ask the Native Americans what they though of that "capitalism"...a VERY fair system...isn't it. Best there is! ONLY for those who stack the deck. Ask the Africans what they thought of capitalism too. I bet they'd disagree it's "the best".

You think it was "noble" conquering this continent? It was conquered by greed, people wanting to make a buck, TAKING what they wanted from others who were already here. Have some more koolaid...they've got you hook line and sinker...believing their false "history" of the noble pioneer innocently being harassed by the natives. Farmers and ranchers living side by side in harmony.

There's a lot of ignorance in the world...people don't like having their world view shattered. They start serving the koolaid at an early age. It's hard to resist the indoctrination...the brainwashing. Practically everything we THINK we know...ends up being wrong. "History" as written...is propaganda.

No wonder so many are so screwed up psychologically. We're constantly bombarded with lies. Take religion, they start when we're just babies. Babies, children, when bombarded with "religion", believe it to be true, it's VERY hard to change their views. Be it a Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindi, Buddhist, whatever religion, when the brainwashing begins at an early age, it's hard to reverse. Same goes for the twisted "history" we were all taught. The lies start early, and they're believed. throughout life.

There is logic in what you've said. But let's not forget the fact that the early colonists and settlers in this nation came looking for land, house and home they could call their own....in a property-owning, free society where they could have the freedom to practice and express their theological and civic views, and have at least a portion of the goods/services they worked like slaves to produce--to have some of the fruits of their labor instead of handing it all over to The State.

The bitterness above is striking and I can't imagine why a person would stay in a regime that commits such horrid socio-economic "oppression and exploitation" of the "victims".

This country has its serious flaws, but everyone has the opportunity to work and seek a better way of producing, for self and for country. Both Presidents Clinton and Obama were fatherless, and Clinton was very poor growing up. But look at what they were able to overcome and achieve, by making the effort over the long haul. Are they "exploiting and stepping on" Native Americans and African Americans, too? I don't think so.

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

There is logic in what you've said. But let's not forget the fact that the early colonists and settlers in this nation came looking for land, house and home they could call their own....in a property-owning, free society where they could have the freedom to practice and express their theological and civic views, and have at least a portion of the goods/services they worked like slaves to produce--to have some of the fruits of their labor instead of handing it all over to The State.

The bitterness above is striking and I can't imagine why a person would stay in a regime that commits such horrid socio-economic "oppression and exploitation" of the "victims".

This country has its serious flaws, but everyone has the opportunity to work and seek a better way of producing, for self and for country. Both Presidents Clinton and Obama were fatherless, and Clinton was very poor growing up. But look at what they were able to overcome and achieve, by making the effort over the long haul. Are they "exploiting and stepping on" Native Americans and African Americans, too? I don't think so.

I would like to believe your assertion that everyone has the opertunity to be successful if only they applied themselves. I have been successful because I am smart, hard working, but most of all because I am am a man and white. Sorry, but I recognize the breaks and helping hands I have had over the years because I am a white male.