[rustyp]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Sorry I don't have in my diary the last purchase date.

Eveready and Energizer do manufacture in the USA and it's indicated on the packaging.
(they also make them in china.................jus look at the label)

And you looked at the label !:boom

next step - "JUS" look at Google ?

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Arctic Fox

China has always taken a long term view

There might be a little short term pain for them from temporarily losing sales to the USA, but in the long run it will look like a blip on a steadily rising line

We are addicted to cheap products from them and flip-flopping tariffs are not going to change that

Average consumers have no choice do to companies left decades ago with no penalties for near slave labor. As long as their pockets are lined they don’t care if China copied produce and sells it to world at 1/5 or more price as long as their pockets get filled.

[Caymus]

I doubt that anybody ever knows the true state of their economy. They devalue their currency routinely. Are they still building "Ghost Cities"?

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Yes

The question is, do people want to stop purchasing the crap.

I quit years ago.

WOW! Impressive! And tracking down not only the lists of ingredients and their suppliers of each and every source of raw materials? Amazing! And to be absolutely certain that nothing you purchase flows cash back to China, do you even make sure the equipment, tools and tech of the companies you purchas from and the products are not from China? in whole or in part?
The mind boggles!

[Normal]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Average consumers have no choice do to companies left decades ago with no penalties for near slave labor. As long as their pockets are lined they don’t care if China copied produce and sells it to world at 1/5 or more price as long as their pockets get filled.

Buying Chinese goods is purchasing slave labor. Often work done here is the same. You are buying something maintained, made or built by illegal workers. The contractor or boss pays the workers 20- 50 bucks a day and pockets the rest made off their sweat. He or she is just stealing from them because of course they still charge the going rate for a job.

Many Chinese work for their 3 bucks an hour and their oligarchs and government just pocket the rest for themselves. It’s slavery, abuse and wrong in both cases.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

WOW! Impressive! And tracking down not only the lists of ingredients and their suppliers of each and every source of raw materials? Amazing! And to be absolutely certain that nothing you purchase flows cash back to China, do you even make sure the equipment, tools and tech of the companies you purchas from and the products are not from China? in whole or in part?
The mind boggles!

Not impressive, I rely on labels. Probably not 100% accurate, but I've made a significant reduction.

Can't stand the idea of sending my money there, supporting their "government".

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Caymus

I doubt that anybody ever knows the true state of their economy. They devalue their currency routinely. Are they still building "Ghost Cities"?

I don't know, but a simple look at the populace could be a hint. If everybody seems happy, healthy, feel safe and secure, with good medical care, good educational opportunities, good jobs and has no worries about retirement, buying a home and they are content and at peace. That makes me think their economy is probably pretty good.
If, on the other hand, the poor, old, I'll are worried wondering where or if food, care, help is going to disappear, or the middle class are worried about their companies and jobs could be wiped out, savings stole, investments eaten up due to lack of stability in their country where even millionaires and billionaires can be destroyed on a whim. That country's economy is, imo, pretty shaky.
Then, again, we could just check the standard economic indicators. They have been pretty reliable.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Not impressive, I rely on labels. Probably not 100% accurate, but I've made a significant reduction.

Can't stand the idea of sending my money there, supporting their "government".

Still impressed. I'm like you. Not a fan of any oppressive regime. I do what I can, but reality and practicality sometimes get in the way.

[bopat]

China seems to have one advantage, they're cheap. But the quality....usually totally crap. Just try using tools from harbor freight for more than one job, they disintegrate as you use them! Not the same as craftsman tools from decades ago, I have a bunch of those, still work great!

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The US, at 15%, is China's largest trading partner. They are probably rapidly looking for OTHER customers.

Yes but almost all other customers are fellow Mercantilist (aka, Fascist) high-tariff export states. It is just laughable that EU and China want closer trade since both are Mercantalist and China supports Russia...Same with Canada which is just another British colony. The CCP is communist in name only...They went from Communism to Mercantilism/Fascism when Mao died.

The USA tariff threats are going to force Mercantilist countries into becoming open and free capitalist markets with more production/consumption balance like the USA. China has a big problem with RMB capital controls and huge debt that they just can't win.

Interesting seems like an understatement.

[Jensor17]

Originally Posted by MorTech

China cannot survive as a prosperous country without the *HUGE* USA consumer market. It is difficult to understand what they are doing as it appears to go beyond just "saving face".

Mercantilism works until it doesn't.

China (Xi) is in real trouble it seems. This tariff battle will be interesting. It will be very disruptive for awhile.

They will back down if Trump refuses. China needs USA BUSINESS. we need tiny things from them like parts for toilet repair or appliance repair. TROUBLE IS THERE GOODS ARE INCONSISTENT AND MADE TO BREAK DOWN . example the toilet bowl float I had three different sizes for the exact same item for my toilet. You could order parts for a washing machine with one item number and get three different sizes. Their clothing is cut very small. For instance TEMU sells stuff in American women sizes that wouldn’t fit a 12 year old.skinny girl !

[SoCalGal]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Yes. The question is, do people want to stop purchasing the crap. I quit years ago.

Remember the positive propaganda the government used to turn out?

"Only you can prevent forest fires."
"Don't be a litterbug."
"This is your brain. This is your brain on drugs."

The government needs to churn out PSAs [public service announcement] to encourage Americans to buy American.

"Keep jobs at home—buy American!"
"Made in the USA: Your choice, our future."
"Support your neighbor—pick American-made!"
"Buy local, build America strong."
"American hands, American brands—choose wisely!"

It's time Americans stood up for themselves and kicked China to the curb, starting with confiscating American farmland purchased by the Chinese. Approximately 350,000 to 400,000 acres of U.S. farmland is owned by Chinese entities, sometimes tied to the Chinese Communist Party, up 82% over 3 years.

While it's true that Canada and European countries own far more, they don't target farmland near U.S. military bases as China does.

Understanding China's Farmland Ownership Near US Military Bases

[Rocksnap]

Originally Posted by SoCalGal

Remember the positive propaganda the government used to turn out?

"Only you can prevent forest fires."
"Don't be a litterbug."
"This is your brain. This is your brain on drugs."

The government needs to churn out PSAs [public service announcement] to encourage Americans to buy American.

"Keep jobs at home—buy American!"
"Made in the USA: Your choice, our future."
"Support your neighbor—pick American-made!"
"Buy local, build America strong."
"American hands, American brands—choose wisely!"

It's time Americans stood up for themselves and kicked China to the curb, starting with confiscating American farmland purchased by the Chinese. Approximately 350,000 to 400,000 acres of U.S. farmland is owned by Chinese entities, sometimes tied to the Chinese Communist Party, up 82% over 3 years.

While it's true that Canada and European countries own far more, they don't target farmland near U.S. military bases as China does.

Understanding China's Farmland Ownership Near US Military Bases

Trouble is, our elected officials have been selling out the U.S. for decades. I’m no economics major, but I’ve been screaming about all our manufacturing jobs being sent over to China. All or our POTUS have done so, for decades. Up till recently, as we know. So how can this humble guy with an average education have figured all this out, long ago? It’s not rocket science, that’s how. Trust no one, question everything!

[skarra]

Originally Posted by Rocksnap

Trouble is, our elected officials have been selling out the U.S. for decades. I’m no economics major, but I’ve been screaming about all our manufacturing jobs being sent over to China. All or our POTUS have done so, for decades. Up till recently, as we know. So how can this humble guy with an average education have figured all this out, long ago? It’s not rocket science, that’s how. Trust no one, question everything!

We're addicted to cheap stuff.

Bring back those cheap, "slave-labor" jobs is going to make us great again (?)

We're the richest people in the world, so really - what is the problem - we want more??

We have damaged relations with every country in the world so far this year. We have given China a gift in all the soft power they now have. The U.S can no longer be counted on, and new relationships will be built without us. We will continue to build walls, and they will be building bridges.

We're in a very bad place right now. It's not clear that US democracy will survive.

[rustyp]

I looked up every major purchase I made over $25 in 2024 from Amazon. I compared the price today. On average over 10% increase. Very few items had the price remain the same. Underwear - exact same brand. Same vendor.etc. + 34%.