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I will likely come around to your other comments. But why are we going after those that are here legally? The did everything legally, went through the process was granted legal status and now, we send them out as if they are criminals. Explain.
Care to provide examples of your claim?
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Old 04-16-2025, 06:12 PM
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This has to be the most meandering thread I have ever seen. All I did was suggest a couple of calmly presented, podcast episodes that some people might find interesting, in light of these interesting times. YMMV

But:

Mere bumpkin though I may be, I do know that it is not smart to try to do surgery with a chainsaw.

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Think there have been more meandering threads than this.
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Props to you for at least trying to document.
The first link appears to be a one-off.
The other two are on visas and are troublemaking activists. They are at here at the pleasure of the State Dept which has the unilateral choice to remove them. You may think they should be allowed to stay, but I don't. Visas are a privilege, not a right.
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Props to you for at least trying to document.
The first link appears to be a one-off.
The other two are on visas and are troublemaking activists. They are at here at the pleasure of the State Dept which has the unilateral choice to remove them. You may think they should be allowed to stay, but I don't. Visas are a privilege, not a right.
One off in what way?

Troublemaking activists? Can you provide examples of that "troublemaking" that is not protected by the Constitution?

I believe everyone in this country is protected by our laws. Period.
I believe everyone in this country legally has all the rights guaranteed by our Constitution. Period.
Should these three be allowed to stay? That is not the question at all. The question is, have they violated the agreement that granted them legal status to stay? That is something that is determined in a court, NOT the way it has played out so far.
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One off in what way?

Troublemaking activists? Can you provide examples of that "troublemaking" that is not protected by the Constitution?

I believe everyone in this country is protected by our laws. Period.
I believe everyone in this country legally has all the rights guaranteed by our Constitution. Period.
Should these three be allowed to stay? That is not the question at all. The question is, have they violated the agreement that granted them legal status to stay? That is something that is determined in a court, NOT the way it has played out so far.
I'd call them insurgents. Intimidations, threats and harassment of a certain group of students is no accident. The insurgent's rights end where others rights begin and deportation is the solution.
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I'd call them insurgents. Intimidations, threats and harassment of a certain group of students is no accident. The insurgent's rights end where others rights begin and deportation is the solution.
Problem is - at least one problem - that didn’t happen. Notably, the administration didn’t even make that claim.
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I agree with the last sentence. That definitely is a problem. Another problem is that every 4 or 8 years there may be a large change in emphasis on legal and ILLEGAL immigration. The US can't seem to make up its mind. personally I think that a country should do an A.I. analysis to determine what its OPTIMAL population should be and then determine what its LEGAL immigration should be, IF ANY.
No, some tend to ignore laws when it conveniently helps their situation.
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Green Cards can be revoked at any time, for criminal activity...
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Green Cards can be revoked at any time, for criminal activity...
Yes, but…
1. The ask was to show where they were going after LEGAL immigrants. Green card holders are LEGAL
2. There has been NO evidence, or even a claim, of illegal activity
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Yes, but…
1. The ask was to show where they were going after LEGAL immigrants. Green card holders are LEGAL
2. There has been NO evidence, or even a claim, of illegal activity
One should be very concerned right now:

We have laws, but what if they are ignored?
We have due process, but what if you can't get it?
What if the govt ships you off to a foreign prison before you get due process?

What if there is no longer innocent before proven guilty?
What if there is no longer any judicial system willing to uphold the process?
What if there are no more elections because they are suspended for war powers or other self serving autocratic reason?

this is the European version of corrupting a democracy for lifelong political power.
Read your European history, might be our destiny as well, cause human behavior will never change, just the actors change about every 60-80 years, especially if you don't read and learn history. .

good luck all, we definitely need it.
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Old 04-18-2025, 10:12 AM
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One should be very concerned right now:

We have laws, but what if they are ignored?
We have due process, but what if you can't get it?
What if the govt ships you off to a foreign prison before you get due process?

What if there is no longer innocent before proven guilty?
What if there is no longer any judicial system willing to uphold the process?
What if there are no more elections because they are suspended for war powers or other self serving autocratic reason?

this is the European version of corrupting a democracy for lifelong political power.
Read your European history, might be our destiny as well, cause human behavior will never change, just the actors change about every 60-80 years, especially if you don't read and learn history. .

good luck all, we definitely need it.
Thank you. A GOOD post.
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Old 04-18-2025, 10:19 AM
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One should be very concerned right now:

We have laws, but what if they are ignored?
We have due process, but what if you can't get it?
What if the govt ships you off to a foreign prison before you get due process?

What if there is no longer innocent before proven guilty?
What if there is no longer any judicial system willing to uphold the process?
What if there are no more elections because they are suspended for war powers or other self serving autocratic reason?

this is the European version of corrupting a democracy for lifelong political power.
Read your European history, might be our destiny as well, cause human behavior will never change, just the actors change about every 60-80 years, especially if you don't read and learn history. .

good luck all, we definitely need it.
What if the sun falls out of the sky and injures the pet cat?
What if the bridge fails over 441/27 and falls on the highway below?
What if....

Fear mongering serves no purpose and I only wish I would have posted all my fears 2 years ago.
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Old 04-18-2025, 10:22 AM
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Problem is - at least one problem - that didn’t happen. Notably, the administration didn’t even make that claim.
It has happened and I wouldn't want to be of a certain faith on college campuses if something doesn't change.
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Old 04-18-2025, 12:01 PM
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What if the sun falls out of the sky and injures the pet cat?
What if the bridge fails over 441/27 and falls on the highway below?
What if....

Fear mongering serves no purpose and I only wish I would have posted all my fears 2 years ago.
your examples are physical happenings, almost impossible to happen. my post is about human behaviors, if you can't see the difference, i can't help you. . .
And yes, it's already happened, so you must not be paying attention. .
And yes, there are pushes for more of these to happen. .

good luck
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