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Those rates only kicked in if imports exceeded a certain amount.
To date, those amounts have not been exceeded, and no US exporter has paid them.
or to guarantee that imports from the US are very low?
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Those rates only kicked in if imports exceeded a certain amount.
To date, those amounts have not been exceeded, and no US exporter has paid them.
That's called a tariff- barrier.

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They only created the need for it, right?
Creating the need for it would be considered starting it, no? What was the need, what was the problem and how did raising tariffs solve it?
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Those rates only kicked in if imports exceeded a certain amount.
To date, those amounts have not been exceeded, and no US exporter has paid them.
There are those pesky facts again.
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Proves the point that you can manipulate numbers. Like in a dip,stocks go from 3000 to 1500 and the dip is 50% but when stock goes up from 1500 to 3000 the rise will need to be 100%
The problem with you logic is if you stay the course in the long run you are the winner.
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The tariff reversal was announced at 1:18 today. However at 1:05, there was a very large uptick in s&p500 volume. Someone had inside information. Who do you think it was?
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The tariff reversal was announced at 1:18 today. However at 1:05, there was a very large uptick in s&p500 volume. Someone had inside information. Who do you think it was?
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The tariff reversal was announced at 1:18 today. However at 1:05, there was a very large uptick in s&p500 volume. Someone had inside information. Who do you think it was?
No tariff reversal.
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No tariff reversal.
Fooled a whole lot of people then.
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Creating the need for it would be considered starting it, no? What was the need, what was the problem and how did raising tariffs solve it?
It's fairly simple and I'll spell it out for those that don't understand. The process is used to create equal trade with other countries whether it be their tariffs, VATS, excise fees, or non-tariff barriers. Obviously, it will fluctuate depending on the country with whom they are speaking. As reiterated today, this is to make all countries successful.. including us.
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Fooled a whole lot of people then.
Pause................not Reversal.................BIG difference.
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Those rates only kicked in if imports exceeded a certain amount.
To date, those amounts have not been exceeded, and no US exporter has paid them.
Thank you for pointing out the problem with restrictive trade. No one wants to export past a certain number if they are then penalized for any additional product imported to the said country.
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It's fairly simple and I'll spell it out for those that don't understand. The process is used to create equal trade with other countries whether it be their tariffs, VATS, excise fees, or non-tariff barriers. Obviously, it will fluctuate depending on the country with whom they are speaking. As reiterated today, this is to make all countries successful.. including us.
Equal trade requires equal resources, equal need, and equal ability to pay. When you are the largest economy in the world there isn’t much that will be equal. Unfortunately, that requires a level of understanding that is beyond “fairly simple”.
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Pause................not Reversal.................BIG difference.
Nope. Binary condition - there are or there are not. Yesterday there were, today there are not. Tomorrow… ?

EDIT: Sure, there is a promise of more ignorance to come, but that is a given.
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Equal trade requires equal resources, equal need, and equal ability to pay. When you are the largest economy in the world there isn’t much that will be equal. Unfortunately, that requires a level of understanding that is beyond “fairly simple”.
And that's why each case will be negotiated separately for those who have not been paying attention.
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