[MorTech]

This is even more absurd than the WeWork filing....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHD8BDFYyGI

[raananh]

WeWork was a scam from the beginning, and, fact: no WeWork offices left, the company is gone, never to be missed by anyone.

Space Travel with 1,000,000,000% certainty is here to stay. Any doubts here?

Maybe the valuation of that IPO is too expensive. Actually for sure, it's too expensive.

So I did not invest despite knowing that Elon Musk succeeded, is succeeding and will succeed in the space race. No serious competition so a great moat for SpaceX.

[MorTech]

"A man colony on Mars and non-earth-based data centers are "improbable"

That is one accurate statement even tough it was done for balance sheet purpose.

A manned trip to the Mars surface requires a launch from the Moon per Tsiolkovsky Rocket Equation...Unless you want to abandon them there...You can't carry enough energy for an Earth launch mission.

[raananh]

Originally Posted by MorTech

"A man colony on Mars and non-earth-based data centers are "improbable"

That is one accurate statement even tough it was done for balance sheet purpose.

A manned trip to the Mars surface requires a launch from the Moon per Tsiolkovsky Rocket Equation...Unless you want to abandon them there...You can't carry enough energy for an Earth launch mission.

To survive, at the very least, a man need air, water and food. The later is a problem on Mars as you can't get supply from Earth. Until we develop labs that grow plenty of food, no colonies on Mars.

The good news is that we essentially have the technology for those labs, including growing meat, which is essential for survival of humans. Elon's brother, Kimble Musk works on that.

[Battlebasset]

No reason to go to Mars. Nothing there. No water, and no soil that will grow anything. And dust storms that will destroy anything we try to build there. Freezing cold. The atmosphere does nothing to retain heat or stop radiation.

Setting up bases on the moon makes far more sense. Closer to earth. Lower gravity. No atmosphere to push dust around. Perfect jumping off point for deep space missions to places that have something we might actually want.

[Michael G.]

Have you ever known anyone like Elon Musk where so many people including our government
throws money at him for any of his crazy ideas??

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

Have you ever known anyone like Elon Musk where so many people including our government
throws money at him for any of his crazy ideas??

People thought it was crazy to go to the new world. Look at all the advances that came with it.

I suspect it will happen but likely new technology will get us there and allow us to live on Mars.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

Have you ever known anyone like Elon Musk where so many people including our government
throws money at him for any of his crazy ideas??

Nothing succeeds like success. And in Elon’s case his success speaks—roars, actually—for itself.

[Snakster66]

I believe the starlink business is also wrapped into spaceX IPO. It’s not just space travel and satellite launch business. The real future and value of the company will be starlink.

[raananh]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Nothing succeeds like success. And in Elon’s case his success speaks—roars, actually—for itself.

The main reason to leave Earth, is the exact same reason the Pilgrims came to America: to escape the madness of where they lived.

Not a single(!) place closer on earth allowed some freedom for the Pilgrims. Not a single place!

Elon wants to build things and store / provide data from Space where no earthly government can "regulate" things.

My prediction: Just as it was with Spain, Britain and France when America was discovered, there will be a race to "conquer" moons and planets.

The next prediction: as always in history, those Earthly governments will fail because: A. They are already failures on Earth (China, Russia, Europe), B. Mostly they will fight each other until exhaustion so the non-Earthly (Pilgrims) will win against them.

Cheers!

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

Have you ever known anyone like Elon Musk where so many people including our government
throws money at him for any of his crazy ideas??

Musk is by far the most successful carnival barker ever. Read the S-1.

Nobody is even going to survive a 9 month trip to Mars. It is not a technical challenge, it is physics. Radiation and zero gravity will kill anyone. Man going to Mars is just fantasy for no reason.

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by Snakster66

I believe the starlink business is also wrapped into spaceX IPO. It’s not just space travel and satellite launch business. The real future and value of the company will be starlink.

Starlink is the only profitable business and with diminishing profit over time. The only value of SpaceX is a little bit more cargo capacity...Dang rocket equation! SpaceX will boost Starlink next-gen satellites (bigger/heavier/higher thoughput) into orbit.

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by MorTech

Musk is by far the most successful carnival barker ever. Read the S-1.

Nobody is even going to survive a 9 month trip to Mars. It is not a technical challenge, it is physics. Radiation and zero gravity will kill anyone. Man going to Mars is just fantasy for no reason.

Never??? May take a few centuries to resolve issues.

[raananh]

Originally Posted by MorTech

Musk is by far the most successful carnival barker ever. Read the S-1.

Nobody is even going to survive a 9 month trip to Mars. It is not a technical challenge, it is physics. Radiation and zero gravity will kill anyone. Man going to Mars is just fantasy for no reason.

Hate, in at least 90% of the times, is due to envy and jealousy at people who succeeded and accomplished things.

Also, Socrates, 3,000 years ago: "the most hated thing is Truth"

[Normal]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

People thought it was crazy to go to the new world. Look at all the advances that came with it.

I suspect it will happen but likely new technology will get us there and allow us to live on Mars.

It’s the technology you would be investing in with Space X. New chips, space based data processing innovations, production facilities and technology that spans across different manufacturing processes. Space offers an unlimited power supply, secure data and speed of light data transferences across the planet.