I hope he wasnt using it for a thrill. Kinda scary thinking that someone can use something like that and no one would know except the torchered dogs.

I do not think these "would torture" a dog. It just gives out a sound.Do not understand? What is so bad about what this guy did.If I had his problem would buy one in a second.

Really? It just gives out a sound? Have you ever seen what high-pitch sounds do to a dog? When my fire alarm battery chirps for replacement my dog starts shaking and hides under the bed.

Those things are meant as a training device, not to zap your neighbors dogs while they are in THEIR OWN YARDS. Do you go around smacking other peoples children too? Where do you draw the line?

I hesitate to get involved in this discussion but in reading this protracted thread, I just have to weigh in. This thread has gone crazy from suing to taking it out on the dogs.

Happinow has described HER lot as sitting back and down from the golf course. Is it possible, because of the placement of HER lot, she is expecting HER neighbor who sits further out on the golf course to sacrifice what THEY bought for THEIR needs? Just posing the question. Sometimes we need to consider another person's point of view.

I am not saying that Happinow's view has not been compromised but perhaps the neighbor paid a premium for a property that was further out on the course than hers so that they could do precisely what they are doing and satisfy their needs.
Before we chose this lot, we knew we didn't want to see any houses out our back on the golf course and so we checked. We chose a lot that no matter how far out someone built, we would still be out further so our view would not be impacted in any meaningful way. We drove to the other side of the course to see what had and what hadn't been built on the other side of the hill to know exactly what we would be looking at. And, more important, what could still be built that could impact our view.

Happinow is wise in talking to those who have the real knowledge to decide whether she is in the position of right or the neighbor is within his/her right and letting them speak to the neighbor. A public forum is not the place this will be resolved and given what has been posted, if seen or heard about, will make the chance of "mending fences" more difficult if at all possible. If it were me, I would ask the admin to take this thing down immediately. My insignificant opinion.

Patty,Sorry children are "Human Beings"---Dogs are "Animals think a big difference. So its allright to use as a training devise? So you dog hides under the bed when your battery chirps-- Well what can I say?

And a valid opinion.

This is getting very ugly and out of hand.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow: (Pulling on my flame suit here)

If Happinow paid for an unobstructive view, then she has a complaint, but what exactly is her problem?

She mentions electric fencing, maybe the reason for the shrubs is so the dogs will have a sight line that they will "respect" as a fence rather than just run till they are zapped. What would she have them do, count strides?

She also mentions the guy drives a "red vet", unless he has a former Communist army member pulling him in a rickshaw I think he has a red corvette-who cares. He's rude to his help, again unless she's taking up house cleaning, this should not be her problem.

This guy is planting landscaping ON HIS OWN PROPERTY, his dog is in his own house, he will be running without a leash IN HIS OWN BACKYARD (is their now a leash-law prohibiting this).

As far as having a decent relationship with your neighbors, I think that ship has sailed. Look at the bright side, you're getting some free landscaping.

Nothing to say, I'm going to take the Zen approach here...

"THEY ARE WHAT THEY ARE, THEY DO WHAT THEY DO".

Yes, it is alright to use a training device on your own dog, it's not a device I would endorse. It is not alright to use it on a neighbors dog that is on their own property.

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Thanks neighbor, U ignored the planting restrictions and U just devalued my property.:boxing2:

http://img.ehowcdn.com/article-new/e...rs-800x800.jpg

Two famous people in the same boat Larry ellison (the big Lanai)

Kevin Costner

Yes there is a no leash law. And you CAN plant but not to form a hedge between homesites and not in excess of 4" high and not in the swail line or within a certain distance of the property line. Yes it is getting a little crazy. The right thing was done by happinow,the proper agency was notified and when the work starts someone will come to the property. Far to many restriction are being stretched or ignored completly. Good luck Happinow.

I am guessing, and hoping that this will be another tempest in a teapot and the plants and bushes will not be an obstruction to Happinow's view, and the person who planted them will have receiived permission to do so and the next potluck will be peaceful and happy, now and later.:doggie::ho:

This could be a reality show - The Real Wives of Brownwood. No, a movie - Invasion of The View Snatchers. Pan to the house. Pan the neighborhood. Back to the house. Red Vette pulls into the driveway. Man gets out and spits. His dogs get out of the passenger side and pee on the lamp post. Suddenly, you hear, "the servants in my house don't wear shoes!" The neighbors, looking from quarter open blinds are horrified as they know they are witnessing the beginning of the Invasion of The View Snatchers!

GG, always the diplomat. I'm not being sarcastic, I admire that.

I'm changing my mantra from "They are what they are, they do what they do" to WWGGD? (What would GracieGirl do).

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Love it.

"hoping that this will be another tempest in a teapot" Me thinks this teapot hath dost floweth over. But kudos to you Gracie for taking the best possible "view" of this :)...as always.

Unless you buy a large pie-shaped lot, I don't see how anyone could be guaranteed a totally unobstructed view. I think the problem is more about fear of what a neighbor may do in the future rather than an existing problem. E.G., potentially not keeping the shrubs trimmed to four feet.

Someone who buys a lot that backs on golf course can control what is planted on their own lot, so that they have an unobstructed "straight-ahead" view. However a neighbor also has a right to enjoyment of their lot and view. And I believe that includes the right to build a birdcage, providing it stops at least ten feet from the property line. Or plant shrubs keeping back from the property line, as long as they keep the bushes trimmed to four feet.

With a "fence" of shrubs, Happinow will not have to look at two large dogs cavorting in the yard next door. So this could possibly be a good thing. Perhaps the neighbor is trying to be responsible, and may well decide to put in invisible fencing within the shrubbery.

I think that trying to control what neighbours do with their lot will just lead to neighbors "taking sides", and eventually to a divided neighborhood which I think would be very unpleasant. We all want to spend our golden years in a harmonious stress-free environment. Compromises may be required to achieve this.

:a040::mademyday: love your humor.

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This is one of the funniest posts ever!!!! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
Mrsanborn you forgot to mention that the spitting vet driver had NY plates. Bada Boom....

It's Bada Bing

I know you were just kidding, BUT
 

bada bing, bada boom

this "expression" can be used like the word "voila" ----> something is finished or completed...

...And as the closing credits roll Mr. NY Spitting Vette owner sits in his lanai smoking a cigar belting out "I've gotta be me" while his dog howls along.

Most entertaining thread ...........
 

Great thread, read it from start to finish and loved every minute of it. Only goes to show that this is truly Florida's Friendliest Retirement Community and we all have too much time on our hands ..........................

Bud Light presents Real Men of Genius. Today we salute you Mr NY Spitting Vette owner. Your true genius has combined two of mans favorite things. Vettes and spitting. It's a car. It's a statement. It's a manly man statement. Brilliant. You know that you are what you are and you have the Vette and spit to prove it. So, crack open an ice cold Bud Light and relax for you have arrived.

Don't forget the barefoot wench cleaning while he enjoys the view he stole.

Love this thread!

My view is my view! My neighbors view is their view. By view, I mean looking straight out from anywhere inside your lot line. It is not possible for anyone to block your view looking straight out from your lot on a golf course. The problem here is that some people think their view is a 180 degree view, which in reality, is their view combined with their neighbors on either side. It is not my neighbor's job to preserve my view from their yard, since the view in their yard is their view.

Now this makes sense....never thought of it this way. I know we would all love the unubstructed 180 view....but unfortunately, we take our chances unless we own a few acres.

I think in TV it's pretty obvious, you get what you pay for.

wow in 48 hours over 6,000 page views.

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Yes, Patty, you do get what you pay for, and unfortunately those views come at quite a price tag! :) We all wish the views were panoramic and expansive, but alas, they are as wide as the lot you purchase.
We are very blessed in this country to have this much space around us, including the views. 90% of the world's population couldn't imagine it.
I love The Villages!

Yep, I hope nobody was planning a stealth move.

The real issue here is that our neighbors sole purpose for putting this hedge fence is to create a "doggy park" for his dogs. Those are his exact words. The sole purpose of this hedge fence is to keep his dogs on his property WITHOUT a leash. The hedges are not landscaping purposes. They are to create a dog park/fence in his yard. The second issue is that this doggy park/hedge fence will block our view. The Covenants &Restrictions clearly states, and I quote "pets must be controlled on a leash when not in the confines of the home." It also states "No fence, barrier, wall or structure of any kind or nature shall be placed on the property. No side or rear hedges exceeding (4) feet in height shall be permitted.". So, if I understand this correctly, he may put in hedges in, but not so that they create a barrier or wall structure. I overheard him say it would be about 200 shrubs he would be planting. Sounds like a barrier or fence to me. I'm not so sure this topic has gotten out of hand. People are putting in their 2 cents and isn't that what this forum is for?? Everyone has an opinion. It's ok to express your opinion. I never said we were goi g to sue, in fact I said that wasn't for us....we are not that kind of people. Lastly, as for getting along with our neighbors...we are very social with EVERYONE except for this newest one. He has chosen the wrong path....not us. The new neighbor has had an attitude from the start, putting himself in the position of not being welcome by others.
Ike I said before, the neighbors beside him are upset by his doggy park escapades as well. I appreciate everyone's input. We are continuing to follow up on this and will work with the Village District To make sure everyone follows the rules.

Sounds like you have a plan and the regulations on your side.

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Wouldn't an invisible fence serve the same purpose at a much lower cost - both financially and emotionally? Had a Great Dane that crossed the fence once - company came back and tuned it up and he never made that mistake again. Yes momentarily it's
probably not the most pleasant experience, but it paid off with years of being able to roam the yard, chase the geese, and pretty much have an awesome and free experience.
I believe it is a one in a million chance the dog won't get it. They can play as free as they were meant to be, the owner has his own dog park and the neighbors are happy. Has anyone considered this option????

The other party to this issue has not chimed in, so how would we know what he really is thinking?
You may want to go back and read all the posts...........it was mentioned early on a dog fence was being considered

There is some wise advice in this post.

The OP has a problem with the dog running is his own yard off leash.

If the landscaping is approved by Community Standards, I think that's the end of this story. The "offending" homeowner would have found a significant loophole to the restrictions the OP has stated.

I wish the OP luck, but a homeowner has the rights to his own property.