[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Drive one, then get back to me... I have. A friend has one. I would NEVER take one on a regular road outside TV... It's a toy...

Cool, that is you.

That is why it is a good thing there are more than one source or product of a type built and sold - other people might like it. The market will decide. I prefer to have a wide variety of choices, to choose from

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Cool, that is you.

That is why it is a good thing there are more than one source or product of a type built and sold - other people might like it. The market will decide. I prefer to have a wide variety of choices, to choose from

I find it odd that you continue to promote EVs (which you admit you don't own) and Atomic EVs (which you've never driven) as solutions...

Personally, when I finally retire and move to TV full time, I do plan to get either a hybrid or an EV (probably the Tesla Model 3, unless they come out with an AFFORDABLE convertible)... I just don't think they are the savior everyone claims them to be...

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

I find it odd that you continue to promote EVs (which you admit you don't own) and Atomic EVs (which you've never driven) as solutions...

Personally, when I finally retire and move to TV full time, I do plan to get either a hybrid or an EV (probably the Tesla Model 3, unless they come out with an AFFORDABLE convertible)... I just don't think they are the savior everyone claims them to be...

It is odd you are so adamantly against EV's since you state you don't own one.

I have stated several times we are "in the market". We will be getting an EV, the only questions are when and which. We are still deciding.

So, your comment then leads me to believe you think being in the market is an insufficient reason to have an opinion?

And for the record. PLEASE point out where I ever said EVs are saviors or solutions to some nebulous something that you don't identify. I am pretty sure I have not done that. I have implied strongly that EVs are the future of transportation (IMHO ) for many reasons, reducing pollution compared to ICE is just one of the reasons - please take note, I said REDUCING not solving.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

It is odd you are so adamantly against EV's since you state you don't own one.

I have stated several times we are "in the market". We will be getting an EV, the only questions are when and which. We are still deciding.

So, your comment then leads me to believe you think being in the market is an insufficient reason to have an opinion?

And for the record. PLEASE point out where I ever said EVs are saviors or solutions to some nebulous something that you don't identify. I am pretty sure I have not done that. I have implied strongly that EVs are the future of transportation (IMHO ) for many reasons, reducing pollution compared to ICE is just one of the reasons - please take note, I said REDUCING not solving.

Did you bother to read what you quoted before responding?

Show me where I said that me being in the market diminished YOUR opinion. All it does is give you more information about MY opinion... Funny thing, those assumptions never work out well...

I specifically said I plan to get either a hybrid or an EV when I move to TV full time...

I just don't see them as the "end all", nor "the future" of transportation (at least not in our lifetime...)

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Did you bother to read what you quoted before responding?

Show me where I said that me being in the market diminished YOUR opinion. All it does is give you more information about MY opinion... Funny thing, those assumptions never work out well...

I specifically said I plan to get either a hybrid or an EV when I move to TV full time...

I just don't see them as the "end all", nor "the future" of transportation (at least not in our lifetime...)

Ah, so I understand now, you can assume I see EVs as a savior or solution, but I can't assume that is a negative connotation?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Ah, so I understand now, you can assume I see EVs as a savior or solution, but I can't assume that is a negative connotation?

You're the one who claims EVs need to replace ICE vehicles... Not me...

[tophcfa]

Hey MartinSE and JMintzer, why don’t you two exchange phone numbers and have your extended conversations in private. It would be nice to not have just about every thread on TOTV dominated by two people.

[photo1902]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Hey MartinSE and JMintzer, why don’t you two exchange phone numbers and have your extended conversations in private. It would be nice to not have just about every thread on TOTV dominated by two people.

Truer words have never been spoken. Good grief, those two need to get a room.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Hey MartinSE and JMintzer, why don’t you two exchange phone numbers and have your extended conversations in private. It would be nice to not have just about every thread on TOTV dominated by two people.

Your ridiculous exaggeration aside, how 'bout you skip the posts we make? That would be nice, as well...

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

You're the one who claims EVs need to replace ICE vehicles... Not me...

There you go again, please find my post where I said EVs "NEED" to replace ICE?

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Your ridiculous exaggeration aside, how 'bout you skip the posts we make? That would be nice, as well...

Wait a minute, are we being Canceled? Censored? hmmm...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Wait a minute, are we being Canceled? Censored? hmmm...

Nah, this ain't Twitter...

BTW, have you seen their new logo?

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Nah, this ain't Twitter...

BTW, have you seen their new logo?

Cool, LOL!

Hmm, think if we post enough, all the crabby ones will leave and go to some other forum to escape are constant posting?

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye

All I’m saying is only a few people will be able to afford electric cars they will be only for the elite not for everybody, including me. There’s charging stations you have to put in your home, not cheap, you can only go so far on a charge, then you have to use gas or spend an hr. waiting to batteries to charge & eventually you’ll be charge for that. Then getting new batteries, dealers say in about 10 yrs. to me that’s BS, I worked in a Engine Auto Plant for 38 yrs. Batteries to replace in your electric car will cost at least $8,000. today & as time goes on you know that price will go up a lot. Then you have to pay someone to dispose of the 10+ batteries. People don’t realize the expense of owning an electric vehicle. Now our president is pushing electric farm equipment to the market in 2023. Can you imagine how much food prices will go up. If you think this is a good thing, hooray! I’m not a fan of electric transportation, I might of worked in a U.S. auto plant for 38 yrs. & I agree I don’t know what’s kept secret behind closed doors but I do know more than the average American. Do what you want, but not me!

Help with the lawn mower???

[starflyte1]

Ys, back to the Ryobi mower. It is being returned. Thanks for the comments!

Everyone have a great day!