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threeonemiles@outlook.com 09-22-2023 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2259555)
Who is they?

Our omniscient, omnipotent PSRRC;

JMintzer 09-22-2023 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2259496)
They can get and spread it but mostly if they get it they get a very mild case.

Do you not understand this?

My eldest daughter was vaxed, multi-boosted, etc. She got covid last month. She said it was like a bad flu... Not very mild, at all...

Now I caught covid long before there was any vaccine. 36-48 hrs of some coughing, a low grade fever, some chills and body aches and I was "tired" for a few days...

Please explain that...

bcsnave 09-22-2023 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2259555)
Who is they?

You know..THOSE GUYS!

JMintzer 09-22-2023 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2259532)
I haven't looked at the data for a couple of years but the results are truely incredible looking back through recent retrospective studies.

I've wondered if part of that success might be related to the diverse combination multiple vaccines with different target plus natural immunity making it statistically harder for virus mutations evolve?

I hate to bring up China data but a US group found nearly 2 million excess deaths followed China's sudden end of COVID curbs the first two month the virus had access to an unvaccinated population with no natural immunity starting in late 2022.

Nearly 2 million excess deaths followed China'''s sudden end of COVID curbs, study says | Reuters

BEIJING, Aug 25 (Reuters) - China's abrupt move to dismantle its strict COVID-19 regime, which unleashed the virus onto its 1.4 billion residents, could have led to nearly 2 million excess deaths in the following two months, a new U.S. study shows.

The study by the federally funded Fred Hutchinson Cancer Center in Seattle was taken from a sample of mortality data published by some universities in China and internet searches.

It found an estimated 1.87 million excess deaths from all causes occurred among people over 30 years of age between December 2022 and January 2023, and were observed in all provinces in mainland China except Tibet.

China's decision last December to end the three-year zero-COVID policy, which included mass-testing and stringent and persistent quarantine lockdowns, led to a massive surge in hospitalisations and deaths that health experts say were largely unreported by the government.

The study, published on Thursday in JAMA Network Open, said the number of excess deaths far exceeded official Chinese government estimates in January that 60,000 people with COVID-19 had died in hospital since the zero-COVID policy was abandoned a month earlier.

Almost two million deaths in only TWO MONTHS? Sorry, but I find that info dubious, at best...

JMintzer 09-22-2023 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by eyc234 (Post 2259540)
:MOJE_whot: No bigger truth has been written,

I want to know what "I worked in the medical field" actually means...

It reminds me of the joke about the guy who follows the elephants in the circus, shoveling their sh*t... When asked why he didn't quit such an awful job, he replied, "What, and give up Show Business"?

GoRedSox! 09-22-2023 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2259563)
My eldest daughter was vaxed, multi-boosted, etc. She got covid last month. She said it was like a bad flu... Not very mild, at all...

Now I caught covid long before there was any vaccine. 36-48 hrs of some coughing, a low grade fever, some chills and body aches and I was "tired" for a few days...

Please explain that...

Everyone reacts differently. Everyone is different. One size does not fit all. I have as much hair on my head as I had when I was 20 (all of it). A lot of my friends have 50% less and some have 90% less. I am allergic to latex tape. Most people are not. I have not had COVID yet, despite being directly exposed to it several times. I never caught chicken pox as a kid. I will never be thin....some people can eat as much as they want. I am also allergic to bee stings....I assure you that if we both get stung, what will happen to me is far worse than what will happen to you.

Pballer 09-22-2023 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2259232)
“TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — The warning from Gov. Ron DeSantis’ administration against getting Covid boosters couldn’t have come at a worse time.

DeSantis’ hand-picked surgeon general, Joseph Ladapo, last Wednesday urged people under 65 not to get the newly approved mRNA-boosters, just days after Florida ranked first in the nation for Covid-related hospitalizations.”

Florida - where science goes to die

JMintzer 09-22-2023 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GoRedSox! (Post 2259568)
Everyone reacts differently. Everyone is different. One size does not fit all. I have as much hair on my head as I had when I was 20 (all of it). A lot of my friends have 50% less and some have 90% less. I am allergic to latex tape. Most people are not. I have not had COVID yet, despite being directly exposed to it several times. I never caught chicken pox as a kid. I will never be thin....some people can eat as much as they want. I am also allergic to bee stings....I assure you that if we both get stung, what will happen to me is far worse than what will happen to you.

Probably not, since I'm allergic to bee stings, as well. Not anaphylactic allergic, but still pretty bad...

But thanks for proving my point. Covid treatment/Prevention is NOT "One size fits all"...

Because, as you so eloquently put it, "Everyone is different"...

Altavia 09-22-2023 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2259557)
It stopped because it never started. No one with Covid "drowned in their own fluids"...

That's like saying Auchwitz never happened...

Ever talked to a COVID nurse who worked a hospital in major city?

COVID-19 Lung Damage | Johns Hopkins Medicine.

Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS)

If COVID-19 pneumonia progresses, more of the air sacs can become filled with fluid leaking from the tiny blood vessels in the lungs. Eventually, shortness of breath sets in, and can lead to acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), a form of lung failure.

Altavia 09-22-2023 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2259565)
Almost two million deaths in only TWO MONTHS? Sorry, but I find that info dubious, at best...

Had the same gut reaction. But 2 milion in 1.2 billion is 0.0016% so?

Altavia 09-22-2023 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2259563)
My eldest daughter was vaxed, multi-boosted, etc. She got covid last month. She said it was like a bad flu... Not very mild, at all...

Now I caught covid long before there was any vaccine. 36-48 hrs of some coughing, a low grade fever, some chills and body aches and I was "tired" for a few days...

Please explain that...

Isn't it great that thanks to vaccines COVID no worse than any other respiratory infection in healthy people?

There are people who seem to be genetically resistant to the virus.

Are some people immune to COVID-19? | AAMC

Altavia 09-22-2023 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2259554)
Fauci admitted otherwise...

Knowledge and understanding evolves as we learn more...

jimjamuser 09-22-2023 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kendi (Post 2259386)
That stopped because they are more knowledgeable now about how to treat and the virus has mutated to a less potent form. Remember when they said don’t seek treatment until you get bad? Now they say to take antiviral asap. (Which all docs knew is standard for viruses but we were led astray). And if it does progress to a more serious state they also have a better understanding of the best treatment

The virus is not particular as to who is vaccinated or not. Both are getting it and it is affecting both the same. But the pharmaceutical companies are sure getting a nice boost in profits.

Now when it comes to the regular flu you rarely see the vaccinated come down with it. Same with shingles and other communicable diseases. And if they do it’s less serious. Not so with covid. As I mentioned above, it affects vaccinated and no vaccinated the same.



The only people I know who had covid are vaccinated.

The CDC says most people over 60 should get vaccinated - they are the experts, not Billy Bob redneck and his wife Randy Redneck and others on small local forums.

jimjamuser 09-22-2023 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kendi (Post 2259365)
Thanks for the reminder to get our flu shots. Not interested in the covid booster

Not interested in the health of the nation. The trolls in Russia are doing their jobs.

jimjamuser 09-22-2023 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kendi (Post 2259386)
That stopped because they are more knowledgeable now about how to treat and the virus has mutated to a less potent form. Remember when they said don’t seek treatment until you get bad? Now they say to take antiviral asap. (Which all docs knew is standard for viruses but we were led astray). And if it does progress to a more serious state they also have a better understanding of the best treatment

The virus is not particular as to who is vaccinated or not. Both are getting it and it is affecting both the same. But the pharmaceutical companies are sure getting a nice boost in profits.

Now when it comes to the regular flu you rarely see the vaccinated come down with it. Same with shingles and other communicable diseases. And if they do it’s less serious. Not so with covid. As I mentioned above, it affects vaccinated and no vaccinated the same.



The only people I know who had covid are vaccinated.

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