[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

How do you know those cases wouldn't have been mild anyway, even without the jab?
You don't. You just assume that's the case.

At least THAT assumption has some science behind it.

[Just jimmy]

Originally Posted by billethkid

Both Walgreens and Publix are out of the vaccine!
There are no schedule dates available for Sumter county.
Anybody else running into same issue (on line).

I guess we will try walk in and see what we get (or not).

Why don’t you get them from your doctor??

[Bogie Shooter]

And the beat goes in……….

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

At least Dr. Fauci never recommended putting ultraviolet light inside a person's body.

Which is an actual therapy...

UVA Light Reduced Virus Loads in COVID-19 Patients

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

That is patently false.

Since the vax does not prevent transmission, other people being vaxxed has ZERO effect on everybody else.

When each person gets the vaccine they are doing the rest of society a favor because that is one less person available to SPREAD the disease.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

When each person gets the vaccine they are doing the rest of society a favor because that is one less person available to SPREAD the disease.

False. It doesn't prevent transmission...

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by midiwiz

is this a national emergency??? just asking for a friend

NO!

[UpNorth]

Follow the money. Now that Pfizer and Moderna have made billions off of government purchases, the FDA now does not object to the use of Ivermectin as an off-label prescription for treatment of Covid.

[kcrazorbackfan]

I got the flu, rsv and Covid shots at Walgreens this week.

[Altavia]

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[Altavia]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

That is patently false.

Since the vax does not prevent transmission, other people being vaxxed has ZERO effect on everybody else.

No one said it "prevents" transmission.

Reducing transmission, having fewer sick people with less severe disease obviously reduced risk for everyone.

Once vaccination rates approached 50%, viral loads in the vaccinated who tested positive were up to 50% lower and for a shorter period of time than the vaccinated.

Also at that time, for every ten hospitalized for COVID, nine were unvaccinated.

Rechecking my recollection:

COVID-19-Associated Hospitalizations Among Vaccinated and Unvaccinated Adults 18 Years or Older in 13 US States, January 2021 to April 2022 | Critical Care Medicine | JAMA Internal Medicine | JAMA Network

"Findings

In this cross-sectional study of US adults hospitalized with COVID-19 during January 2022 to April 2022 (during Omicron variant predominance), COVID-19-associated hospitalization rates were 10.5 times higher in unvaccinated persons and 2.5 times higher in vaccinated persons with no booster dose, respectively, compared with those who had received a booster dose. Compared with unvaccinated hospitalized persons, vaccinated hospitalized persons were more likely to be older and have more underlying medical conditions.

Meaning

The study results suggest that COVID-19 vaccines are strongly associated with prevention of serious COVID-19 illness."

...
Community transmission and viral load kinetics of the SARS-CoV-2 delta (B.1.617.2) variant in vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals in the UK: a prospective, longitudinal, cohort study...


"Vaccination was found to be effective in reducing household transmission of the alpha variant (B.1.1.7) by 40–50%,1 and infected, vaccinated individuals had lower viral load in the upper respiratory tract (URT) than infections in unvaccinated individuals,"

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

False. It doesn't prevent transmission...

But it does reduce the transmission. Not much in this world is 100% effective; implying the vaccine is worthless because it is not 100% effective is disingenuous at best.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

That is patently false.

Since the vax does not prevent transmission, other people being vaxxed has ZERO effect on everybody else.

Less than 100% but MUCH greater than zero.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

False. It doesn't prevent transmission...

How about reduces transmission.

Vaccines FAQ - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center.

In general, most vaccines do not completely prevent infection but do prevent the infection from spreading within the body and from causing disease.

Many vaccines can also prevent transmission, potentially leading to herd protection whereby unvaccinated people are protected from infection by the vaccinated people around them because they have less chance of exposure to the virus.



Vaccines FAQ - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center.

From December 2020 through November 2022, we estimate that the COVID-19 vaccination program in the U.S. prevented more than 18.5 million additional hospitalizations and 3.2 million additional deaths.

Without vaccination, there would have been nearly 120 million more COVID-19 infections.

[Keefelane66]

Originally Posted by UpNorth

Follow the money. Now that Pfizer and Moderna have made billions off of government purchases, the FDA now does not object to the use of Ivermectin as an off-label prescription for treatment of Covid.

“ Fact Check-Ivermectin still not FDA-approved to treat COVID”