[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

You know Villages Pl. Most people as old as we are realize that a persons choices can alter the length of their lives. Most of us know that exercise and diet and being in a happy state can lengthen most lives and avoiding smoking and avoiding dangerous activities can help and having fun and getting enough sleep and enjoying activities that increase our heart rate and move our bodies around help too, to make us generally healthier and possibly allow us to live longer.

How long would that be? How much longer would we live if we ate your diet? How much longer would you live if you saw a doctor every three months and did everything he said to do? How much longer would we live if we lived in an optimal situation and didn't have money issues or kids who worried us?

Who really knows?

Yes, I see your point. But I would put less emphasis on the length of life and more emphasis on striving for near term quality of life. Then, if you get the quality, the length of life is something that will naturally follow. I don't know whether I'll live to 90, 95, 100 or 115. But I'm definitely enjoying the quality that I have now.

I have observed people who were lucky to live a long life but suffered terribly during the last 10 to 15 years. And often it was needless. And of course there are people who live short lives and suffer at the end with cancer etc..

I don't understand the reasoning behind not eating the best diet because a long life is not guaranteed.

[pooh]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

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I don't understand the reasoning behind not eating the best diet because a long life is not guaranteed.

And that could just be the answer for some, VillagesPL, life length is not guaranteed, and they prefer to do what they enjoy while they still have life, even if it means a shorter one.

[jimbo2012]

Originally Posted by pooh

And that could just be the answer for some, VillagesPL, life length is not guaranteed, and they prefer to do what they enjoy while they still have life, even if it means a shorter one.

Not to sound harsh but isn't that selfish not only to your spouse but to others?

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

Not to sound harsh but isn't that selfish not only to your spouse but to others?

It would be selfish is you are the cook and big into a "program" and your spouse doesn't want to eat the same stuff..

[pooh]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

Not to sound harsh but isn't that selfish not only to your spouse but to others?

It can be selfish indeed, however, it can be considered selfish in the other direction, too. One trying to do what is considered a way to potentially prolong life, or one allowing another to live in a fashion that makes that individual happy.
Sometimes we just have to accept others the way they are.

[jimbo2012]

You guys R funny, if you don't eat dead animals and processed food you can't be happy.

Is that what you're saying?

[graciegirl]

Boy Howdy.

[pooh]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

You guys R funny, if you don't eat dead animals and processed food you can't be happy.

Is that what you're saying?

No....but some just absolutely will not eat vegetarian never mind vegan.

[jimbo2012]

Please explain why not.

[pooh]

Some might not like veggies, fruits, particular grains. The taste, texture, feel in the mouth is something they can't tolerate. Some may be born with particular food likes and dislikes. A good example for me is my son. From the day he started ingesting foods, he would absolutely NOT eat particular veggies, fruits, grains and those dislikes continue. At this point, he's 41, an executive chef, a wonderful husband, father of two children who enjoy a wide variety of fruits and veggies, and he still eats a rather limited variety of veggies/fruit.

Remember, one can take a horse to water, but can't make that horse drink. People will change if they want to, and then, if they don't suffer so to speak.

[eweissenbach]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Boy Howdy.

Triple Boy Howdy!

[eweissenbach]

Does not seem to me that the vegan/vegetarian posters are trying to win converts as much as they are trying to prove they are smarter than others, more informed, and more enlightened. If you really are interested in winning over people to your point of view you might try to be somewhat less condescending and insulting.

[TerpDawg]

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

Does not seem to me that the vegan/vegetarian posters are trying to win converts as much as they are trying to prove they are smarter than others, more informed, and more enlightened. If you really are interested in winning over people to your point of view you might try to be somewhat less condescending and insulting.

Boy Howdy!!!!!!!!

[jimbo2012]

Sorry guys, not my intent.

[Bill-n-Brillo]

Originally Posted by pooh

Some might not like veggies, fruits, particular grains. The taste, texture, feel in the mouth is something they can't tolerate. Some may be born with particular food likes and dislikes. A good example for me is my son. From the day he started ingesting foods, he would absolutely NOT eat particular veggies, fruits, grains and those dislikes continue. At this point, he's 41, an executive chef, a wonderful husband, father of two children who enjoy a wide variety of fruits and veggies, and he still eats a rather limited variety of veggies/fruit.

Remember, one can take a horse to water, but can't make that horse drink. People will change if they want to, and then, if they don't suffer so to speak.

Pooh........you're describing me as well.

A topic for a bit of research for those who might be curious: "Selective Eating Disorder". Here's a glimpse:

Selective eating disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That's me almost to a "T" only I don't have any sort of the 'social stigma' associated with it. It's always a topic of much humor and joking around with people who know me.

My mom never made me eat things I didn't care for when I was little thus I wasn't exposed to lots of different foods. Very very few fruits, same with vegetables, no salads (never had one in my life and don't plan to), no pies (maybe chocolate would be o.k.).......it's a lot about how some foods taste but actually more to their consistency. If it's plain, bland, etc., I'm probably o.k. with it. If it's something sweet, I'm there! My sister, one grade ahead of me in school thus we were raised in exactly the same environment.........she'll eat anything!

Sandy, as well, will eat ANYTHING........but liver.

Not trying to stoke a debate of any sort - just tossing in my $.0295 worth......about how some people are just wired a bit different than others.

Bill