[MorTech]

I posted this mostly for people suffering with macular degeneration to consider.
I can't even imagine how much going blind sucks.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by MorTech

I doubt many of you can understand the topic...Or probably didn't even watch the video.

Talk about religious dogma.

100% agree. There are CLEARLY those that don't understand the topic

[ithos]

Originally Posted by MorTech

I doubt many of you can understand the topic...Or probably didn't even watch the video.

Talk about religious dogma.

Of course I understand. I used to be a believer. And do you know how many videos on youtube there are espsousing the carnivore diet or something similar? There is no doubt that in the short term you will lose weight and some cherry picked bio markers will improve but that is not a credible way to evaluate a diet strategy. Show me evidence from, randomized control trials, cohort studies, cross sectional population studies, or meta analysis and systematic reviews that it extends life span and reduces the odds of being afflicted with major diseases.

Show me the videos where your kidney function doesn't degrade over decades of eating mostly animal protein.
Red Meat Intake and Risk of ESRD - PubMed
Red meat intake strongly associated with ESRD risk in a dose-dependent manner (hazard ratio for highest quartile versus lowest quartile,1.40 [95% CI, 1.15 to 1.71; Ptrend<0.001]).

Or that it doesn't increase the chance of cancer over the long term.
Consumption of red meat and processed meat and cancer incidence: a systematic review and meta-analysis of prospective studies - PubMed
This comprehensive systematic review and meta-analysis study showed that high red meat intake was positively associated with risk of breast cancer, endometrial cancer, colorectal cancer, colon cancer, rectal cancer, lung cancer, and hepatocellular carcinoma, and high processed meat intake was positively associated with risk of breast, colorectal, colon, rectal, and lung cancers. Higher risk of colorectal, colon, rectal, lung, and renal cell cancers were also observed with high total red and processed meat consumption.

I have been on a plant based diet for about 12 years and have experienced all the benefits you claim that comes from a carnivore diet and more. Every meaningful bio marker has improved and is in range. My PSA dropped to .7, lost most of my fat, never have any food urges (except for sweets). And best of all there are hundreds of peer reviewed studies that predicted the success I have achieved. They include proof that statistically my diet will extend lifespan and dramatically reduce the incidence of major diseases. Plant-based diet and risk of all-cause mortality: a systematic review and meta-analysisPlant-based diet and risk of all-cause mortality: a systematic review and meta-analysis - PubMed


So please find the similar studies that will validate your YouTube hero's claim. It should show results like these:
Results: We identified 28 publications that included a total of over 2.21 million participants. Adhering to the EAT-Lancet dietary patterns was negatively associated with diabetes, CVD (mortality), all-cause mortality, and cancer (mortality), with HRs of 0.78 (95 % CI: 0.65-0.92), 0.84 (95 % CI: 0.81-0.87), 0.83 (95 % CI: 0.78-0.89), and 0.86 (95 % CI: 0.80-0.92), respectively. Significant heterogeneity was observed for diabetes (I2 = 94.0 %), all-cause mortality (I2 = 85.5 %), and cancer incidence (I2 = 79.3 %). Importantly, no evidence of publication bias was found for any of the clinical outcomes analyzed. Sensitivity analyses confirmed the robustness of the results across various dietary scoring systems for CVD mortality, all-cause mortality, and cancer.
Conclusion: Following the EAT-Lancet diet was significantly associated with reduced odds of diabetes, CVD, cancer and mortality. These findings are clinically important, highlighting the beneficial effects of the recent EAT-Lancet diet on various health outcomes.Emerging EAT-Lancet planetary health diet is associated with major cardiovascular diseases and all-cause mortality: A global systematic review and meta-analysis - PubMed

[MorTech]

Eating meat does not cause kidney failure or cancer...This is obviously wrong - OBVIOUSLY! Homo Sapiens would not exist!

Did they screen the participants for kidney damage and cancer before the trial?
How many (percentage) got kidney failure and/or cancer?

Carbohydrates and PUFA cause insulin resistance (and diabetes) down to the mitochondria level. The destruction of cells can result in cancerous cell storm mostly due to weakened immune system. Cancer cells can only survive on glucose. Normal cells survice on glucose and fat. The body makes all the sugar it needs from fat/protein...Obviously! Just like all carnivores!

Do you disagree that carbohydrates and PUFA oils (proven to damage blood vessels - and every cell in your body) cause macular degeneration?

I have been on a low carb diet (Thanks Dr Atkins and Drs Eades) for 30 years. I have been on a near-zero carb diet for the last 1.5 years...I even managed to quit coffee, which I still miss. My eyesite is now just starting to get a little fuzzy and I have been staring into computer monitors all my adult life. No kidney/cardiac failure or cancer yet.

[MorTech]

Fact: Homo Sapiens are carnivores.
Fact: Carbohydrates are non-essential.

If you disagree with those then there really is no helping you.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by MorTech

Fact: Homo Sapiens are carnivores.
Fact: Carbohydrates are non-essential.

If you disagree with those then there really is no helping you.

I think you meant to post that humans are omnivores and carbohydrates are essential. My invitation remains open—-cite a legitimate scientific study

[MorTech]

For those with curious and rational adult minds: You might want to spelunk the internet for articals/studies by Drs. Michael and Mary Dan Eades. They have been proving Ancel Keys and AMA Quacks wrong since the 1990s

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I think you meant to post that humans are omnivores and carbohydrates are essential. My invitation remains open—-cite a legitimate scientific study

Great! So you found a medical case attributed to a "Carbohydrate Deficiency"!

Please post a link so we can all see!

I can't wait!

I will embrace your statement after review!

[ithos]

Originally Posted by MorTech

Eating meat does not cause kidney failure or cancer...This is obviously wrong - OBVIOUSLY! Homo Sapiens would not exist!

Did they screen the participants for kidney damage and cancer before the trial?
How many (percentage) got kidney failure and/or cancer?

Carbohydrates and PUFA cause insulin resistance (and diabetes) down to the mitochondria level. The destruction of cells can result in cancerous cell storm mostly due to weakened immune system. Cancer cells can only survive on glucose. Normal cells survice on glucose and fat. The body makes all the sugar it needs from fat/protein...Obviously! Just like all carnivores!

Do you disagree that carbohydrates and PUFA oils (proven to damage blood vessels - and every cell in your body) cause macular degeneration?

I have been on a low carb diet (Thanks Dr Atkins and Drs Eades) for 30 years. I have been on a near-zero carb diet for the last 1.5 years...I even managed to quit coffee, which I still miss. My eyesite is now just starting to get a little fuzzy and I have been staring into computer monitors all my adult life. No kidney/cardiac failure or cancer yet.

There are some animal food sources that have nutrients critical to good eye health. I hope you have researched that.

[MorTech]

Carbohydrates and plant seed oils can cause insulin resistance/chronic inflammation/diabetes that damages every cell in the human body down to the mitochondria level. Almost every modern disease and ailment is caused by this.

That is an accurate statement...I will leave it at that.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by MorTech

Great! So you found a medical case attributed to a "Carbohydrate Deficiency"!

Please post a link so we can all see!

can't wait!

I will embrace your statement after review!

Don’t have to. Even someone with knowledge of physiology equal to a freshman pre-med student knows that we are dead in seconds without carbohydrates. I thought I explained the role of the Krebs cycle in intermediary metabolism already, it really is quite simple. But if you need a reference, I would suggest any introduction to biology textbook

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by MorTech

Carbohydrates and plant seed oils can cause insulin resistance/chronic inflammation/diabetes that damages every cell in the human body down to the mitochondria level. Almost every modern disease and ailment is caused by this.

That is an accurate statement...I will leave it at that.

That has been shown to be total BS time and time again. It is a completely inaccurate statement and I’ll leave it at that

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by MorTech

Eating meat does not cause kidney failure or cancer...This is obviously wrong - OBVIOUSLY! Homo Sapiens would not exist!

Did they screen the participants for kidney damage and cancer before the trial?
How many (percentage) got kidney failure and/or cancer?

Carbohydrates and PUFA cause insulin resistance (and diabetes) down to the mitochondria level. The destruction of cells can result in cancerous cell storm mostly due to weakened immune system. Cancer cells can only survive on glucose. Normal cells survice on glucose and fat. The body makes all the sugar it needs from fat/protein...Obviously! Just like all carnivores!

Do you disagree that carbohydrates and PUFA oils (proven to damage blood vessels - and every cell in your body) cause macular degeneration?

I have been on a low carb diet (Thanks Dr Atkins and Drs Eades) for 30 years. I have been on a near-zero carb diet for the last 1.5 years...I even managed to quit coffee, which I still miss. My eyesite is now just starting to get a little fuzzy and I have been staring into computer monitors all my adult life. No kidney/cardiac failure or cancer yet.

You stated that you are on a low carb diet. If you are consuming fruits and vegetables (which are carbs) you are nourishing your body with essential vitamins and minerals. An all meat diet depletes your body of these nutrients. Eventually, a person on a true carnivore diet will have health issues.

History provides us with information on depletion diets. Mariners died from scurvy due to lack of vitamin c. They began to carry limes on their excursions and the disease on their ships disappeared. Scurvy still exists today. People who do not eat fruit and vegetables are affected. There you go! One example of MILLIONS DYING due to not eating carbs. Yet, the doctor on this video is promoting avoiding citrus? A proven food that saved millions of lives? I rolled my eyes and turned the video off at this point. Quack!

Most of us have heard of osteoporosis and osteomalacia. We make certain we eat foods containing calcium to avoid this disease. Meat does not contain calcium. Do you think you can live without strong bones? Iodine was added to salt to eliminate goiters. Vitamin D was added to milk to prevent rickets. There are hundreds of PROVEN diseases caused by depletion diets.
Recently, I have witnessed friends and family members SUFFERING with excruciating pain (and I mean suffering) due to brainwashed, depletion diets.

As I stated, I am not in the medical profession. However, it is easy for me to understand a lack of vitamins and minerals, and a diet high in fat will eventually cause health issues. As golfing eagles would say, PERIOD!

I, as a lay person, can provide a few examples of what happens to those on depletion diets. Think what a physian of 30 years has seen! Why argue with GE? Take in his knowledge and LEARN. IMO, any doctor who promotes depletion diets is a quack. (history proves this) I applaud GE for calling it like it is. PERIOD!!!!!

BTW: Atkins had a history of heart disease. He couldn't keep himself healthy let alone others. Thanks, but I'll pass on his advice. Just another quack doctor more interested in earning millions instead of saving lives.

[MorTech]

It saddens me to think of all those Inuit people dying from kidney failure and heart disease and cancer and "carbohydrate deficiency" and lack of fruits and vegetables (with all those "nutrients" that people can't seem to specify/quantify). I bet they wished they had the AMA and "Food Pyramid" to set them straight!

You can live perfectly healthy on only meat/eggs/butter/water...Most fruits and vegetables contain metabolic toxins to all carnivores and not just humans...These be facts. Megadoses of Vitamin C will help remove toxins from metabolized carbohydrate an seed oil.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by MorTech

It saddens me to think of all those Inuit people dying from kidney failure and heart disease and cancer and "carbohydrate deficiency" and lack of fruits and vegetables (with all those "nutrients" that people can't seem to specify/quantify). I bet they wished they had the AMA and "Food Pyramid" to set them straight!

You can live perfectly healthy on only meat/eggs/butter/water...Most fruits and vegetables contain metabolic toxins to all carnivores and not just humans...These be facts.

Do you have Inuit DNA? If you have European DNA, you are taking a risk. Throughout history, depletion diets killed millions of European descent. And, those are the recorded and PROVEN facts.