[Cybersprings]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

My bad. I’m still recovering from COVID and not 100%

I am sorry to hear that. I hope you feel better soon.
By the way, my chiropractor has a great adjustment to prevent COVID. Let me know if you need his name or a referral.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Cybersprings

I am sorry to hear that. I hope you feel better soon.
By the way, my chiropractor has a great adjustment to prevent COVID. Let me know if you need his name or a referral.

Thanks, but I have a voodoo witch doctor on speed dial 😂😂😂

[blueash]

Ok, I'll bite. Dr google can give you a very good idea of the symptoms of benign paroxysmal positional vertigo. Why even the Mayo Clinic gives you pretty much all you need to determine if your dizziness fits that diagnosis
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/syc-20370055
Many other sites will also walk you through the presentation of BPPV.

If your story fits that diagnosis, yes self diagnosis. And you don't have any of the other worrisome accompanying symptoms... I have no problem with you going to you tube and seeing how to do at home Epleys for a few days to see if you get relief.

Every patient does not need an MRI for every symptom. If all you have is BPPV and a couple days of home therapy works... go on with your life without seeing a doctor or having an MRI.

Now, having said that, in our age group a percentage of persons will have unexpected findings on the MRI, up to and including brain tumors.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by blueash

Ok, I'll bite. Dr google can give you a very good idea of the symptoms of benign paroxysmal positional vertigo. Why even the Mayo Clinic gives you pretty much all you need to determine if your dizziness fits that diagnosis
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/syc-20370055
Many other sites will also walk you through the presentation of BPPV.

If your story fits that diagnosis, yes self diagnosis. And you don't have any of the other worrisome accompanying symptoms... I have no problem with you going to you tube and seeing how to do at home Epleys for a few days to see if you get relief.

Every patient does not need an MRI for every symptom. If all you have is BPPV and a couple days of home therapy works... go on with your life without seeing a doctor or having an MRI.

Now, having said that, in our age group a percentage of persons will have unexpected findings on the MRI, up to and including brain tumors.

Good answer!

[rogerk]

It can work if done correctly AND depending on the cause of the vertigo. There is a great Doctor in Celebration Florida. The practice is: Vertigo and Balance Treatment, Florida Ear and Balance - (321) 939-3000

They virtually eliminated my vertigo. It is not the most fun treatment but it utilizes the Eply Chair to correctly identify and treat most causes of Vertigo. It works and is not fake science.

This is the only location in the Southeast that has an Eply chair. Call them and draw your own conclusions.

[mtdjed]

Unbelievable how two people hijack a forum. Your first posts said everything you needed to say. The rest is purely self-serving.

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

My bad. I’m still recovering from COVID and not 100%

Originally Posted by mtdjed

Unbelievable how two people hijack a forum. Your first posts said everything you needed to say. The rest is purely self-serving.

Golfing Eagles. Sorry for your COVID. I just had my first Covid after a European River Cruise. Fortunately, I did not get it on the cruise and secondly fortunate that I tested for it early, got Paxlovid and had no major symptoms.

Obviously, you know a lot about Vertigo. One of my questions is whether you ever had severe Vertigo?

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

No offense, and I'm really not looking for a p!$$!ng match, but please point out a statement that is "categorically wrong". Some may be exaggerations to make a point, but overall they are accurate. You cannot hunt for rare exceptions and hold that up as a standard. I think I have been pretty consistent---I acknowledged referring patients to chiropractors and other ancillary services when appropriate, but pretty harshly warn against getting evaluated by those fringe practitioners first. Sorry if I ruffle some feathers, but the public sometimes just doesn't "get it". There are a lot of quacks and snake oil salesmen out there, and if I can do some small part to protect the innocent, I'm going to take it.

As far as "having a degree and being retired" goes, I think my career is a bit more than that. For all anyone knows, when they play Dr. Google they may be quoting me from the content that I myself have written. When they need inpatient medical care, they may be receiving treatment under protocols that I have written. So, consider it arrogant if you will, but I feel obligated to utilize my extensive knowledge to benefit others, within certain constraints of law and ethics. And yes, sometimes I get overzealous.

I thank you for taking the time to educate people on this forum. I do not place emotions into your words and find each of your posts thorough. Why people want to argue with an expert is beyond me. Everyone is entitled to get a second opinion. That second opinion should NOT be a layperson who googles something and decides. "Hey, I am now an expert!" How many times have we been told DO NOT TRUST THE INTERNET? If you doubt what GE says, get a second opinion from a MEDICAL DOCTOR.

BTW: I find you bedside manner fine. I would rather have a doctor who is engaged in each of his patients and will be harsh when necessary. Who wants a doctor that holds your hand and tells you only what you want to hear? And says, Oh! You googled I was wrong? My bad! Thanks for updating me. Good luck recovering with a doctor like that!

Please THINK before you go against an expert. Any layperson can find the answer they WANT on the internet. It doesn't mean it is the correct one.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by mtdjed

Golfing Eagles. Sorry for your COVID. I just had my first Covid after a European River Cruise. Fortunately, I did not get it on the cruise and secondly fortunate that I tested for it early, got Paxlovid and had no major symptoms.

Obviously, you know a lot about Vertigo. One of my questions is whether you ever had severe Vertigo?

Thanks, finally improving, today is day #9, but I didn't start Paxlovid (for what it's worth) until day 4. The absolute worst was such a severe sore throat that I could only swallow with intense pain. Now just down to fatigue. Still very hard to assess the efficacy of Paxlovid, the success rate is all over the board. I have to admit it was a bit disconcerting when my pulse ox dropped to 84%, but I question the accuracy of that reading since I didn't have any dyspnea. Hope you are getting over it as well.

No, I never had vertigo. Unfortunately, it is difficult to treat when it has an element of chronicity. You can try Epley maneuvers and pump the patient full of meclizine, but it usually recurs. More often I have seen the acute form----acute viral labyrinthitis. Almost anyone can diagnose it---you literally are fine one second and falling to the floor the next. It's more severe than the chronic variety, but also self limited. Best not to get either in the first place.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

I thank you for taking the time to educate people on this forum. I do not place emotions into your words and find each of your posts thorough. Why people want to argue with an expert is beyond me. Everyone is entitled to get a second opinion. That second opinion should NOT be a layperson who googles something and decides. "Hey, I am now an expert!" How many times have we been told DO NOT TRUST THE INTERNET? If you doubt what GE says, get a second opinion from a MEDICAL DOCTOR.

BTW: I find you bedside manner fine. I would rather have a doctor who is engaged in each of his patients and will be harsh when necessary. Who wants a doctor that holds your hand and tells you only what you want to hear? And says, Oh! You googled I was wrong? My bad! Thanks for updating me. Good luck recovering with a doctor like that!

Please THINK before you go against an expert. Any layperson can find the answer they WANT on the internet. It doesn't mean it is the correct one.

Thanks, but I'm no saint. I often post responses in an insulting manner, usually intentional for shock value, but also occasionally in anger in response to those who are determined to prove they are idiots.

There is an allure and false air of authority to the internet. It seduces otherwise rational individuals into believing that their 5 minute google search makes them an expert. They fail to realize that much of the content is unverified, and that which is from a legitimate site is often "dumbed down" to the point of losing its true meaning as to make it more understandable to the average person. It is not written for professionals.

Medicine frequently does not follow the rules of common sense and logic, some things are opposite from what one might expect. It is almost impossible to understand medicine without knowing some underlying principles. Then, there is always the difference between what the academicians think and write and what actually is done in the real world.

Most here on this site mean well, but I agree there are some that want to argue with an expert. Arguing an opinion is one thing, fine. Arguing medical facts, well, that generally turns out embarrassing, even if that person doesn't realize it. But like I said, I'm no saint and I'm happy to call them out.

[deborahcme]

I had a vertigo attack about two years ago. I would not have described it as dizziness. It was full on not being able to walk with safety as the room felt like it was spinning around me. Even when lying down, I felt like the bed was tilting crazily and would soon dump me on the floor! Husband took me to ER who referred me to Ear Nose and Throat doctor. After doing a few diagnostic tests, they determined that I did have vertigo and not some other neurological condition. They performed the Epley procedure and taught me how to do it myself in case vertigo returned. It has not. That said, if it does, I'd still err on the side of caution and seek additional testing.

[neilbcox]

Originally Posted by hawk1021

My Husband suffers from dizziness constantly someone said something about the Epley Maneuver. Has anyone done this before ? Did it work ? and if so can you recommend a doctor down here in the villages area.

Have a doctor of audiology check it out. The Villages Healthcare has several.

[Cybersprings]

Originally Posted by neilbcox

Have a doctor of audiology check it out. The Villages Healthcare has several.

I am not sure if this was meant to be funny or not.
If it was humor, it is very funny.
If it is not an attempt at humor, I am going to guess that you posted after reading the initial post without reading the the whole thread (the one I hijacked).
If that is the case, I would go back and read the whole thread for some great entertainment, and see why I say it was very funny (truly not intended as an insult).

For Golfing Eagles....round 2???

[Cybersprings]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

I thank you for taking the time to educate people on this forum. I do not place emotions into your words and find each of your posts thorough. Why people want to argue with an expert is beyond me. Everyone is entitled to get a second opinion. That second opinion should NOT be a layperson who googles something and decides. "Hey, I am now an expert!" How many times have we been told DO NOT TRUST THE INTERNET? If you doubt what GE says, get a second opinion from a MEDICAL DOCTOR.

BTW: I find you bedside manner fine. I would rather have a doctor who is engaged in each of his patients and will be harsh when necessary. Who wants a doctor that holds your hand and tells you only what you want to hear? And says, Oh! You googled I was wrong? My bad! Thanks for updating me. Good luck recovering with a doctor like that!

Please THINK before you go against an expert. Any layperson can find the answer they WANT on the internet. It doesn't mean it is the correct one.

I never once argued with his point regarding what the person should do.
I never thought nor in any way claimed that I was an expert.
Since I hijacked the thread, you have lots of content to use. Please point out a single statement I made that was not 100 % correct.
I will wait....

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Cybersprings

I am not sure if this was meant to be funny or not.
If it was humor, it is very funny.
If it is not an attempt at humor, I am going to guess that you posted after reading the initial post without reading the the whole thread (the one I hijacked).
If that is the case, I would go back and read the whole thread for some great entertainment, and see why I say it was very funny (truly not intended as an insult).

For Golfing Eagles....round 2???

If you insist, but why do you want to dig yourself an even deeper hole?