[bhemingway]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Governors in Florida also have a substantially lower death rate per 100k inhabitants than other states.

States with highest death rate per 100k

Correct me if I am wrong but each State only has one Governor so can we drop the "s"?

[npwalters]

Originally Posted by Bill1701

I agree. For all of you Villagers who want everything to stay shut down for months, are you willing to give your retirement income to a family trying to make ends meet? I can tell you that someone trying to decide to pay the rent or utilities, but can't afford both, is not thinking about some oldster in The Villages getting sick. The rest of the world is more important than what happens here.

yep, true

[D.Bolen]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

Donna, It's loosen the reins, not reigns. You're welcome.

I thought Donna's choice of spelling was not an error, but a clever and deliberately tongue-in-cheek commentary.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

It's called COVID-19. Fewer characters to type than "the Wuhan virus" and more respectful of actual science, and people who are suffering from and have died from it.

If y'all can't manage to call it by its correct name, then you can't expect anyone to take your opinion about it seriously.

[Villageswimmer]

Originally Posted by DonnaNi4os

As the governor begins to loosen the reigns, I believe a large number of people will have a false sense of security and safety. Make no mistake, the number of cases right here in The Villages and throughout Florida is continuing to rise daily. So, before you get back to your life as you knew it before COVID-19, I beg you to consider the healthcare workers. Have you thought about which hospital you would go to if you would require hospitalization? Have you considered the first responders, nurses and other healthcare providers and their families? Perhaps another few weeks of self-isolation and selflessness might be the best idea. I know that all of us want to go back to life as we knew it. You may be longing to go back to the squares, but none of us want to go back to square one. So I beseech you, consider your fellow man.

Thank you for your thoughtful post. I share your sentiments.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by DonnaNi4os

As the governor begins to loosen the reigns, I believe a large number of people will have a false sense of security and safety. Make no mistake, the number of cases right here in The Villages and throughout Florida is continuing to rise daily. So, before you get back to your life as you knew it before COVID-19, I beg you to consider the healthcare workers. Have you thought about which hospital you would go to if you would require hospitalization? Have you considered the first responders, nurses and other healthcare providers and their families? Perhaps another few weeks of self-isolation and selflessness might be the best idea. I know that all of us want to go back to life as we knew it. You may be longing to go back to the squares, but none of us want to go back to square one. So I beseech you, consider your fellow man.

I don't think we'll get "back" to what we had, completely, any time soon. Not even if we re-open things. Too many of us are reluctant to return completely, because too many of us understand the risks - and have more to lose than perhaps other people.

However, I would like to see some changes in the restrictions. Some more strict than before, which would ease things up for some looser elsewhere.

For instance - a concerted effort by ALL the stores in the squares to ENFORCE social distancing rules. If a customer can't manage to keep his distance, then he is no longer welcome to shop there - until such time as he learns how to comply with the new rules of the store.

For instance - ALL customers must wear a mask or other face covering. Anyone who refuses - is not welcome into the store. It has to be enforced.

For instance - capacity limits based on the square footage on the floor where the customers are able to go. Not based on total square footage including the store-rooms in the back.

If it's 1 person for every 24 square feet (that's 6 feet in any direction) then that's how it is. If that means one-way aisles, then that's what it means. And customers would be REQUIRED to obey those rules, or be turned away.

Your toilet paper is not more important than my life. And the same should be true in ANY store, with ANY product. For the forseeable future. Until. Until it is safe to do otherwise.

I'd be fine with opening stores back up, re-opening the pools, re-opening the sports courts - IF we can be assured that stores, rec centers, and other businesses would comply with these inconveniences of safety, and enforce the same upon their customers.

As long as I can go to target and see that MOST customers have no masks, have no respect for the 6-foot rule, that there's no one cleaning the shopping carts, that kids are walking in the middle of the aisles making it impossible for anyone ELSE to follow the 6-foot rule...then we need to not open up businesses.

People need to take this seriously, and take responsibility for their own actions and how they affect everyone else. If they can't do that, then they should not be allowed to exercise the "freedoms" they so loudly demand (pro-tip: swimming in a pool paid for by amenities is not a right or freedom protected by the constitution).

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by DonnaNi4os

As the governor begins to loosen the reigns, I believe a large number of people will have a false sense of security and safety. Make no mistake, the number of cases right here in The Villages and throughout Florida is continuing to rise daily. So, before you get back to your life as you knew it before COVID-19, I beg you to consider the healthcare workers. Have you thought about which hospital you would go to if you would require hospitalization? Have you considered the first responders, nurses and other healthcare providers and their families? Perhaps another few weeks of self-isolation and selflessness might be the best idea. I know that all of us want to go back to life as we knew it. You may be longing to go back to the squares, but none of us want to go back to square one. So I beseech you, consider your fellow man.

You go, girl. You are right

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

If it's 1 person for every 24 square feet (that's 6 feet in any direction) then that's how it is. If that means one-way aisles, then that's what it means. And customers would be REQUIRED to obey those rules, or be turned away.

Six feet in each direction would be 36 square feet..

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Six feet in each direction would be 36 square feet..

You're right. I was thinking the cardinal directions from the middle out: 6 feet north, 6 feet south, 6 feet east, 6 feet west. That all equals 24 feet. It's not "square feet" - you're right about that.

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

You're right. I was thinking the cardinal directions from the middle out: 6 feet north, 6 feet south, 6 feet east, 6 feet west. That all equals 24 feet. It's not "square feet" - you're right about that.

Actually you'd only need 28 square feet since you could accomplish your six feet of separation with a 6' diameter circle. It would be more of a personal bubble than a box.. lol

Yes, I'm bored and I need a haircut..

[chet2020]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

You're right. I was thinking the cardinal directions from the middle out: 6 feet north, 6 feet south, 6 feet east, 6 feet west. That all equals 24 feet. It's not "square feet" - you're right about that.

I would go with 113 sq ft. You are in the center of a circle with a radius of 6 ft. (πr²). Typing that formula was a PITA.

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by chet2020

I would go with 113 sq ft. You are in the center of a circle with a radius of 6 ft. (πr²). Typing that formula was a PITA.

But you don't need a 6' radius, only 3'. The guy next to you will have the other 3'.. lol

[Jeremiah Riordan]

Well played!

[DAN48]

Originally Posted by karostay

I don't trust any of the government numbers from either side of the isle

And, you can add the lying media to the cast of characters with an agenda!

[blueash]

The first meeting of the "Re-Open Florida Task Force" which was convened by DeSantis to advise him on how to go forward, met today, Monday Apr 20. The report of the membership, who is there, who is not is detailed by the Miami Herald Newspaper.
DeSantis is leading the task force and it does not contain a single physician. Instead it is dominated by Republican legislative and executive office holders and the leaders of large businesses. There are no representatives of small business nor of agriculture.

Also missing were any representatives from small businesses, whom DeSantis and his spokeswoman had assured would have a “big emphasis” on the task force meetings.

The 90-minute meeting Monday of the group led by Gov. Ron DeSantis and the Florida Chamber of Commerce focused on statistics about the state economy and business leaders thanking DeSantis for his “thoughtful,” “decisive” and “proactive” leadership.
The state’s top two health officials, the surgeon general and the secretary for the Agency for Health Care Administration, were not heard from until the end of the call.

At least they had one doctor there, listening and allowed to talk at the end. Mary Mayhew is the Sec for the Agency for HCA and is a poly sci graduate and former candidate for governor in the state of Maine.

It seems strange to me that the task force which will recommend to DeSantis is big business [banks, tourism, utilities] and not a single doctor or epidemiologist. I think you can already see what the overriding factor is going to be. $$ not lives. I hope it works out. It might.