[dbussone]

Grass plants can transport infectious prions
Posted: 15 May 2015 12:56 PM PDT
Grass plants can bind, uptake and transport infectious prions, according to researchers. Prions are the protein-based infectious agents responsible for a group of diseases called transmissible spongiform encephalopathy, which includes bovine spongiform encephalopathy (mad cow disease) in cattle, scrapie in sheep, variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease in humans and chronic wasting disease (CWD) in deer, elk and moose. All are fatal brain diseases with incubation periods that last years

Are there implications for humans here?

[graciegirl]

Clearly. I clown around too much.

This is a very dangerous thing; mad cow disease.

I don't eat deer or elk, but obviously cows CAN get it.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by dbussone

Grass plants can transport infectious prions
Posted: 15 May 2015 12:56 PM PDT
Grass plants can bind, uptake and transport infectious prions, according to researchers. Prions are the protein-based infectious agents responsible for a group of diseases called transmissible spongiform encephalopathy, which includes bovine spongiform encephalopathy (mad cow disease) in cattle, scrapie in sheep, variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease in humans and chronic wasting disease (CWD) in deer, elk and moose. All are fatal brain diseases with incubation periods that last years

Are there implications for humans here?

Only if you're eating meat from grass fed animals.

Sounds like another diet myth busted.

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by dbussone

Grass plants can transport infectious prions
Posted: 15 May 2015 12:56 PM PDT
Grass plants can bind, uptake and transport infectious prions, according to researchers. Prions are the protein-based infectious agents responsible for a group of diseases called transmissible spongiform encephalopathy, which includes bovine spongiform encephalopathy (mad cow disease) in cattle, scrapie in sheep, variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease in humans and chronic wasting disease (CWD) in deer, elk and moose. All are fatal brain diseases with incubation periods that last years

Are there implications for humans here?

More facts-- you clearly don't get it. They don't want facts, They have an agenda!!!!

[pooh]

Here's the article..... UTHealth Research: Grass Plants Can Transport Infectious Prions

Interesting and potentially, scary.


I like your humor Gracie....

[B767drvr]

Originally Posted by dbussone

Grass plants can transport infectious prions
Posted: 15 May 2015 12:56 PM PDT
Grass plants can bind, uptake and transport infectious prions, according to researchers. Prions are the protein-based infectious agents responsible for a group of diseases called transmissible spongiform encephalopathy, which includes bovine spongiform encephalopathy (mad cow disease) in cattle, scrapie in sheep, variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease in humans and chronic wasting disease (CWD) in deer, elk and moose. All are fatal brain diseases with incubation periods that last years

Are there implications for humans here?

Very interesting topic dbussone!

I read the following book a few years ago and it left me chilled. It reads like a spy novel. After a strange wasting disease emerges in cannibalistic tribes in Papua New Guineau, the US and other developed countries send in scientists to investigate a possible emerging threat to humanity. Samples of diseased brains are brought back to the US for further examination. The samples were not secured and this new "wasting disease" escapes into the US environment where animals spread it. The disease is discovered in cattle destined for human consumption.

The chilling part is the US government largely denies its (mad cow) existence, yet it has been (and continues to be!) discovered in numerous autopsies of donated bodies to science that were all definitively diagnosed as dying from Alzheimer's! The author asserts that our government monitors the spread of mad cow disease in our food supply by "sampling" cows from various herds. (Google "cattle mutilations" and you will discover >10,000 cows have been dissected in identical manner, and all anonymously - spooky spy novel stuff.)

Anyway, I enjoyed the book but it left me bewildered and I guess wary. Here's a copied review that is on Amazon's site:



"Most Helpful Customer Reviews

36 of 36 people found the following review helpful
As a neurologist, I found it frightening
By Stephen Wong on November 21, 2004
Format: Hardcover

As a trained neurologist working at a school of medicine, I thought I had a fairly good understanding of BSE and its human counterpart, nvCJD. But clinical knowledge is only one piece of the puzzle.

Drawing upon epidemiologic, forensic, political, medical, scientific, and historical sources, the author has provided a truly chilling account of the importation of prion disease samples from the small cannabalistic Fore tribe in New Guinea for U.S. animal experimentation in the 1950's and '60's, with credible links to the current epidemic of animal prion disease in North America (CWD or chronic wasting disease, TME or transmissible mink encephalopathy, and BSE), as well as the current epidemic of Alzheimer's disease in developed countries (i.e., those eating mass-produced livestock). The author also speculates that the cattle mutiliations in North America in the past few decades may have been programs designed for the surveillance of prions within the nation's food supply.

Some disturbing points made in the book are:

1) 5 - 13% of Alzheimer's Disease (AD) cases that go to autopsy at university medical centers is actually misdiagnosed sporadic CJD (ref: Manuelidis, J. Pathology 1989), alarming since AD is so common and on the rise.
2) BSE, when transmitted to mice, cause neuropathological findings of nvCJD, but surprisingly, may also cause changes indistinguishable from sporadic CJD (ref: Collinge, EMBO Journal 2002 & Science 11/04)... in combination with the above, the implication is that a significant proportion of clinical AD may be due to BSE.
3) CWD (chronic wasting disease), a prion disease of wild animals such as deer and elk, has been spreading rapidly within the past few decades in North America."


Google "Brain Trust" for Amazon link.

[dbussone]

B67dvr - that really is scary!

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Only if you're eating meat from grass fed animals.



Sounds like another diet myth busted.

Or - if you eat grass? ::

[B767drvr]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Only if you're eating meat from grass fed animals.

From my reading, that's not a safe conclusion. Unfortunately, "downer" animals (especially cows) are still being fed to other cows and animals, despite all sorts of governments warnings, inspections and fines to the contrary.

"The Food Revolution" by John Robbins (of Baskin-Robbins fame) will really blow the average person's mind about how filthy and disease-ridden the US food supply is.

Food safety/food-borne illness is not a pleasant subject and any reading or research is NOT for the faint of heart. Factory farming is plain disgusting and cruel with the almighty dollar determining the minimum most producers will spend to bring food to market. We know how to produce food far more safely, but it simply costs more and the producers generally refuse to spend anything more than they are minimally required to. Unfortunately, up to 80 million Americans are sickened (by various estimates) each year by food-borne illness and some 3,000 die annually. So, it's not a pleasant subject, but it's an important one. (To close on a particularly sour note, for various reasons, senior citizens are far more susceptible to food-borne illness.)

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by B767drvr

From my reading, that's not a safe conclusion. Unfortunately, "downer" animals (especially cows) are still being fed to other cows and animals, despite all sorts of governments warnings, inspections and fines to the contrary.



"The Food Revolution" by John Robbins (of Baskin-Robbins fame) will really blow the average person's mind about how filthy and disease-ridden the US food supply is.



Food safety/food-borne illness is not a pleasant subject and any reading or research is NOT for the faint of heart. Factory farming is plain disgusting and cruel with the almighty dollar determining the minimum most producers will spend to bring food to market. We know how to produce food far more safely, but it simply costs more and the producers generally refuse to spend anything more than they are minimally required to. Unfortunately, up to 80 million Americans are sickened (by various estimates) each year by food-borne illness and some 3,000 die annually. So, it's not a pleasant subject, but it's an important one. (To close on a particularly sour note, for various reasons, senior citizens are far more susceptible to food-borne illness.)

You've done a lot of research on this and related topics. I appreciate it and enjoy learning.

At times I poke fun at things -most of the time they are meant in jest.

[B767drvr]

Originally Posted by dbussone

At times I poke fun at things -most of the time they are meant in jest.

No offense ever taken dbussone. If one is to post on message boards, one must grow thick skin. It's all good.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by B767drvr

No offense ever taken dbussone. If one is to post on message boards, one must grow thick skin. It's all good.

You have a signature that I agree with heartily.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by B767drvr

I read the following book a few years ago and it left me chilled. It reads like a spy novel. After a strange wasting disease emerges in cannibalistic tribes in Papua New Guineau, the US and other developed countries send in scientists to investigate a possible emerging threat to humanity. Samples of diseased brains are brought back to the US for further examination. The samples were not secured and this new "wasting disease" escapes into the US environment where animals spread it. The disease is discovered in cattle destined for human consumption.

The chilling part is the US government largely denies its (mad cow) existence, yet it has been (and continues to be!) discovered in numerous autopsies of donated bodies to science that were all definitively diagnosed as dying from Alzheimer's! The author asserts that our government monitors the spread of mad cow disease in our food supply by "sampling" cows from various herds. (Google "cattle mutilations" and you will discover >10,000 cows have been dissected in identical manner, and all anonymously - spooky spy novel stuff.)

Anyway, I enjoyed the book but it left me bewildered and I guess wary. Here's a copied review that is on Amazon's site:



"Most Helpful Customer Reviews

36 of 36 people found the following review helpful
As a neurologist, I found it frightening
By Stephen Wong on November 21, 2004
Format: Hardcover

As a trained neurologist working at a school of medicine, I thought I had a fairly good understanding of BSE and its human counterpart, nvCJD. But clinical knowledge is only one piece of the puzzle.

Drawing upon epidemiologic, forensic, political, medical, scientific, and historical sources, the author has provided a truly chilling account of the importation of prion disease samples from the small cannabalistic Fore tribe in New Guinea for U.S. animal experimentation in the 1950's and '60's, with credible links to the current epidemic of animal prion disease in North America (CWD or chronic wasting disease, TME or transmissible mink encephalopathy, and BSE), as well as the current epidemic of Alzheimer's disease in developed countries (i.e., those eating mass-produced livestock). The author also speculates that the cattle mutiliations in North America in the past few decades may have been programs designed for the surveillance of prions within the nation's food supply.

Some disturbing points made in the book are:

1) 5 - 13% of Alzheimer's Disease (AD) cases that go to autopsy at university medical centers is actually misdiagnosed sporadic CJD (ref: Manuelidis, J. Pathology 1989), alarming since AD is so common and on the rise.
2) BSE, when transmitted to mice, cause neuropathological findings of nvCJD, but surprisingly, may also cause changes indistinguishable from sporadic CJD (ref: Collinge, EMBO Journal 2002 & Science 11/04)... in combination with the above, the implication is that a significant proportion of clinical AD may be due to BSE.
3) CWD (chronic wasting disease), a prion disease of wild animals such as deer and elk, has been spreading rapidly within the past few decades in North America."
Google "Brain Trust" for Amazon link.

This is important and scary information. What an excellent post!

[Lauren Sweeny]

Consumers of any farm animal or produce need to be aware that our country has decided that money ( profit) is more important then health and safety of any " farm raised "products. I believe the facts are woven into the media . We ,the general population, must be diligent in protecting ourselves by staying informed . This entails reading everything out there,, ( not just media hype ) to be able to make healthy decisions. The nations food supply, in my opinion , is tainted due to greedy suppliers.. It is very difficult ,in this time frame , to find truthful facts to base ones food intake.
Meat, vegetables,fruit ,all have been written about in media for one problem or another. What is left to eat to be healthy? Readers find out the facts ,share them with others,stay informed ,be healthy!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

It's my understanding that most of the cattle that are brought to market are corn fed.

Grass fed beef is labeled as such in the super markets and is much more expensive.

It has been promoted by proponents of various low carb and gluten free diets.
It supposedly has less fat.