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Remember that those that go against the "system" will be ridiculed and scorned by those who are in the system. It may take a while longer for the truth of what he is saying to filter down to mainstream thinking. For me, I go with what feels right for me and fits into my current "reality", whatever that may be at the time. I just know that for me what he is saying makes more sense and fits into the paradigm that has worked for me these past 35+ yrs since I began this journey of learning self responsibility.

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I just googled Dr Stephen Barrett, he is a well known quack and a physiciatrist. Check him out. This is the author on Dr Lundell? Give me a break.
Stephen Barrett - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Could you provide a link to what you read?
Wiki is I admit not the greatest site, but they have nothing to discredit Dr. Barrett.

Here are documents of revoked license 2008 and bankruptcy, 2005 for Lundell. So is he actually an MD, or not?

http://www.casewatch.org/board/med/l...order_2008.pdf

http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/lundell/ch7.pdf
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Kitty, All I did was google his name,Dr Stephen Barrett. I don't know how to post a link. Must have my little grandson show me sometime. Lol. If you scroll down past wiki to other links, like quack pot.
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Just remember the Atkins Diet and what the main stream said about DR. Atkins then and what they say now.
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Statins have saved so many lives. I will rely on the traditional medical community for my advice.

I think that exercise, low fat, and a variety of fruits and vegetables helps your heart, but genetics is a factor in clogged arteries.

I also just love Lightworker who brings sunshine everywhere she goes and always makes me feel better. However I am not a fan of alternative medicine and supplements.
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DH just reminded me about how much our beliefs and paradigms and history influence our way of moving in the world. That is probably why things that work for some people don't work for others. I am just sharing the information that comes across my desk with those who might resonate with the info. Those with whom it doesn't resonate, just ignore it.


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I would recommend the book, "It Starts with Food," by the creators of the Whole9.
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Just got this and felt it was worth sharing on the forum for those who are interested. It really supports so much of what we now know to be true about how the body works and how to best support it. Please don't shoot the messenger!

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» World Renowned Heart Surgeon Speaks Out On What Really Causes Heart Disease
Right now I don't have time to study the whole article carefully but I see some misleading information and some good information. For one thing, a lot of people, during the 60s, 70s, and 80s never followed any such low fat diet. It was a certain percentage of the population but I lived through those years and never heard anyone recommend it.

Other than myself, no one I knew took the low fat diet seriously. Yes, I did take it seriously and cut down on fat. But at the same time I did eat lean meat that did contain some fat. So, was I in danger of eating too many starchy carbs and gaining weight? No! My BMI at the time was about 19.

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Remember that those that go against the "system" will be ridiculed and scorned by those who are in the system. It may take a while longer for the truth of what he is saying to filter down to mainstream thinking. For me, I go with what feels right for me and fits into my current "reality", whatever that may be at the time. I just know that for me what he is saying makes more sense and fits into the paradigm that has worked for me these past 35+ yrs since I began this journey of learning self responsibility.

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According to this article, 96% of people in these studies showed no benefit at all after taking statins for 5 years. So the myth that statins save a lot of lives is just that, a myth.

In fact statins have been linked to muscular atrophy, diabetes and dementia.

The Diet-Heart Myth: Statins Don't Save Lives in People Without Heart Disease
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I know a number of people that go on Atkins I believe, the meat diet, and cholesterol went down on hot dog diet. Go figure. I take Omega 3 fat, recommended by cardiologist, so who knows what to believe. But as a long time user of statins, they do have side effects.
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Just remember the Atkins Diet and what the main stream said about DR. Atkins then and what they say now.


To find out what the main stream thinks of the Atkins diet do a yahoo search as follows: Atkins Facts - Expert Opinions
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According to this article, 96% of people in these studies showed no benefit at all after taking statins for 5 years. So the myth that statins save a lot of lives is just that, a myth.

In fact statins have been linked to muscular atrophy, diabetes and dementia.

The Diet-Heart Myth: Statins Don't Save Lives in People Without Heart Disease
Good points about statins. I have never recommended the widespread use of cholesterol lowering drugs. I believe in most cases your body will produce the cholesterol it needs and a healthy lifestyle will call for your liver to produce less than it would under conditions of an unhealthy lifestyle.
So the message is: Live a healthy lifestyle!
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