[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by joerocker

I agree with the decline statement. However, I think you're turning a molehill into a mountain here. If you've never tried it, you can't really judge it. It really is like drinking beer. It gives a nice mellow "buzz". The better argument is: If alcohol is legal, there's no reason for marijuana not to be. They both do pretty much exactly the same thing. Only people smoking marijuana don't get mean and violent. Smoke too much and you just want to sit on the couch and listen to music. Smoke the right amount and it's like drinking beers with the guys. A very pleasant experience.

This is no different than ending prohibition. People like to get a "high", they will, so why try to stop them? Studies show most/all animals will seek a "high". They eat rotting fruit for the alcohol.

Marijuana right now is so much easier to get than alcohol. Any kid can get it, easily. Actually, it's can't get any easier to get.

The placebo effect works wonders. Plus marijuana acts as a tranquilizer, that alone can help patients with chronic conditions.

No more brain damage than "your" alcohol has caused. Unless you don't agree with any form of mind altering substances.

We're probably going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Without first hand experience, we can't talk on an even level. It'd be like me arguing with a mother about pregnancy or childbirth. Since I've never done it, how can I have an educated opinion?

Try the following search: Marijuana and brain damage.

[Jaggy]

science has now shown is that marijuana and cannabinoids are effective anti-aging agents which means that they are effective in minimizing the onset and the severity of age-related illnesses which include cognitive dysfunction things like Alzheimers, cardiovascular disease be it heart attacks, strokes, or clogged arteries
If you think I am wrong google it.. I found my quote by googling marijuana & the elderly.

[rubicon]

Hollywood Cheech and Chong and all that followed have made light of marijuana for so long that the light handed comments always follow its mention.



]"Far from benign Pot damages the heart, lungs, increases the incidence of anxiety, depression and schizophrenia, and can trigger acute psychotic episodes. "

"Many adults appear to be able to use marijuana with relatively little harm but the same cannot be said of adolescents who are twice as likely to become addicted as adults" Mitchell S. Rosenthal, Child Psychiatrist and founder of Phoenix House.

States like Colorado that legalize marijuana normalize it and socialize it. We have an epidemic of teenagers binge drinking so what do you believe is going to happen in Colorado and the adjoining states? And if marijuana is socially acceptable why isn't ..................................................

But well kids will be kids

[joerocker]

Originally Posted by rubicon

Hollywood Cheech and Chong and all that followed have made light of marijuana for so long that the light handed comments always follow its mention.



]"Far from benign Pot damages the heart, lungs, increases the incidence of anxiety, depression and schizophrenia, and can trigger acute psychotic episodes. "

"Many adults appear to be able to use marijuana with relatively little harm but the same cannot be said of adolescents who are twice as likely to become addicted as adults" Mitchell S. Rosenthal, Child Psychiatrist and founder of Phoenix House.

States like Colorado that legalize marijuana normalize it and socialize it. We have an epidemic of teenagers binge drinking so what do you believe is going to happen in Colorado and the adjoining states? And if marijuana is socially acceptable why isn't ..................................................

But well kids will be kids

So you're FOR the legalization for ADULTS? Since it does no harm to them.

Which is exactly what these states are doing. Nobody is saying allow kids to have it. It'll be the SAME as it is now for alcohol. Over 21. It's still illegal for kids.

Why does everyone think kids will suddenly be getting inundated with marijuana? If they want it, they can get it now. Cigarettes are legal for adults and not kids, not every child smokes. Alcohol is available for adults, not every kid drinks. This will be the same. There will be some increase in use because that's what happens when something formerly forbidden is legalized. But there won't be an explosion of stoned teens. Because, as I've said before, if a kid wants it, he can get it. Right now, here in Florida, I'm sure in the villages charter school. It's already everywhere. Because people like it.

We have an epidemic of kids binge drinking, and you blame marijuana? Huh? They're drinking alcohol. A separate entity, with it's own laws. That's the thing, there isn't anything really bad to say about marijuana, so people against it, make up stuff about other things and try to tie it to marijuana. Binge drinking alcohol has nothing to do with marijuana.

I know what will happen in CO and WA, "pot tourism". I'm going, soon. Going to meet friends from other states. Beats having to go to Jamaica. This is no different than tourists going to Las Vegas to gamble before gambling was "legalized" in practically every state. Maybe the Native Americans can add "pot shops" to their casinos.

Go to CO yourself. LEGALLY see what all the clamor for legalization is all about. Try it, you'll like it. In moderation of course. Don't want you coming back like Tommy Chong.

[John_W]

I have just one comment to make. If people want to get wasted legally they drink and some get drunk. Some get mean drunk and then take it out on someone else. I've never heard of anyone getting mean high. Probably the biggest opponent of legalization are the bar owners and liquor companies.

[billethkid]

gee as good as it is for all to use I keep wondering why it has taken at least the last 78 years that I know of to come to pass?

Why did it not happen long, long ag, LONG ago. Perhaps it is a barometer of the changing values of the modern day.

And now all of a sudden too, all the positions of how much better it is than some other "stuff". If true why did it take over 78 years, that I knoe of, to come to pass?

How does it compare to electronic cigarettes that are now being subjected to a wave of restrictions? Pot vs steam?

I forget who it was that used to say, there is a lot more to the story (we won't hear)?

[joerocker]

Originally Posted by John_W

I have just one comment to make. If people want to get wasted legally they drink and some get drunk. Some get mean drunk and then take it out on someone else. I've never heard of anyone getting mean high. Probably the biggest opponent of legalization are the bar owners and liquor companies.

But marijuana is more like beer...you don't have to get wasted. A nice pleasant buzz is enough. Why is it always assumed that everyone is going to smoke to excess? Do most people drink to excess? People lose less personal control when smoking than with alcohol. The misinformation about it is staggering.

And yes, it's alcohol that makes you lose your mind and do stupid, STUPID things. You never hear of anything bad that's being done by someone smoking marijuana. It makes you mellow, tolerant, and happy.

Originally Posted by billethkid

gee as good as it is for all to use I keep wondering why it has taken at least the last 78 years that I know of to come to pass?

Why did it not happen long, long ag, LONG ago. Perhaps it is a barometer of the changing values of the modern day.

And now all of a sudden too, all the positions of how much better it is than some other "stuff". If true why did it take over 78 years, that I knoe of, to come to pass?

How does it compare to electronic cigarettes that are now being subjected to a wave of restrictions? Pot vs steam?

I forget who it was that used to say, there is a lot more to the story (we won't hear)?

There is a lot more to the story, but it's political. So we can't talk about it. Suffice to say that certain corporations want to keep it illegal. Legalization is a grassroots effort.

[Golfingnut]

When I go to a party, I have to maintain self control to the point that if I have a third beer I will regret it in the morning. I doubt if I ever reach .08 or even .05 % blood alcohol! but on the rare occasion I do have the extra round, I always feel bad the next day even if I only have three beers over a three hour party.

I wonder, does smoking a small amount cause the same morning after result.

[senior citizen]

.............

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by senior citizen

There was a Swedish study done with regard to all of the American military deserters who ended up in Stockholm back in the 1960's. Within the past decade (while they were in their late 50's and early 60's) they were coming down with early onset Alzheimer's Disease and Dementia.....dying quickly. The physicians said it was due to their use of Hashish when they arrived in Sweden. I'm not a drug expert but Hashish is, I believe, a more potent type of marijuana??


I have this as firsthand information from the Swedish family of one of these deceased men. The clinic in Stockholm did extensive research on the hashish usage leading to the dementia. The doctors began seeing more and more of this certain generation coming in with the severe symptoms of dementia......dying soon afterward......


It's very sad to see someone fading away with dementia.

Aaaakkkk!!

Modern study:

Marijuana cannabinoids slow brain degradation and aging, reverse dementia: here's how

[bobofmanawa]

Originally Posted by BarryRX

Scientists long ago abandoned the idea that marijuana causes users to try other drugs: as far back as 1999, in a report commissioned by Congress to look at the possible dangers of medical marijuana, the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences wrote:

Patterns in progression of drug use from adolescence to adulthood are strikingly regular. Because it is the most widely used illicit drug, marijuana is predictably the first illicit drug most people encounter. Not surprisingly, most users of other illicit drugs have used marijuana first. In fact, most drug users begin with alcohol and nicotine before marijuana — usually before they are of legal age.
In the sense that marijuana use typically precedes rather than follows initiation of other illicit drug use, it is indeed a “gateway” drug. But because underage smoking and alcohol use typically precede marijuana use, marijuana is not the most common, and is rarely the first, “gateway” to illicit drug use. There is no conclusive evidence that the drug effects of marijuana are causally linked to the subsequent abuse of other illicit drugs.
Since then, numerous other studies have failed to support the gateway idea. Every year, the federal government funds two huge surveys on drug use in the population. Over and over they find that the number of people who try marijuana dwarfs that for cocaine or heroin. For example, in 2009, 2.3 million people reported trying pot — compared with 617,000 who tried cocaine and 180,000 who tried heroin. It's just a false argument. To put it another way, all Hell's Angels rode bicycles when they were kids. Very few kids who rode bicycles became Hell's Angels.

Right on.

[Golfingnut]

This site below has listings of numerous studies of specific findings for many illnesses we seniors struggle with every day. Simply go to the site, find your medical issue and review the studies and findings.

NORML.org - Working to Reform Marijuana Laws

Our friends here that give opinions on marijuana are closer to: I heard from my boss that his daughters best friend read that pot will make you speak in a foreign language. I have to feel they mean well, but are poorly informed on the true facts about this natural growing herb.

Don't be gullible, do your own research so you will be able to talk about this issue with facts. The web site above is considered honest and reliable.

[Parker]

Well I don't know much about the effects of marijuana, but I do know that it STINKS. P U!

[senior citizen]

..................
　

[Golfingnut]

Like I said, well meaning folks that KNOW what they are taking about voice their honest opinions. Problem is what they KNOW is based on what they HEAR that fits what they want to hear and not a complete research of all fact based information available.