[2BNTV]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Always hate to see the words "in moderation"............need to work on that.

You know how you tell if a person is drunk?

He's lying down on the floor, and has to hold on!!!

Moderation means different thing to different people. One drink for a small person is enough, and some bigger people can have 4 or 5 drinks, and not be buzzed.

One or two is usually what a doctor recommends. Anymore than that and some people, will be in trouble.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by 2BNTV

You know how you tell if a person is drunk?

He's lying down on the floor, and has to hold on!!!

Moderation means different thing to different people. One drink for a small person is enough, and some bigger people can have 4 or 5 drinks, and not be buzzed.

One or two is usually what a doctor recommends. Anymore than that and some people, will be in trouble.

I'm a part-time moderator..............working at becoming full-time.

[Loudoll]

I enjoyed the responses and the post so much. I thought that I had seen that show so was glad someone said that it was re-run. I am driving myself crazy trying to figure out what ragtime talking is....the post about the unfortunate relative who was not sociable...anyone?

[Loudoll]

[Could you explain the ragtime reference...thank you }I just watched it and totally agree on one thing - socialization. I have a very close family member who was very intelligent, had an executive job, traveled extensively and is now almost a vegetable and cannot, just cannot, stop talking - unfortunately ragtime.

In their mid-40s they got married to a very private person who did not like to be around people, did not like to entertain, and did not socialize unless it was talking to other dog walkers. They did not socialize on holidays and even spent Christmas alone. When the partner died the remaining partner had no friends, did not socialize with the neighbors and slowly over a good many years sank further and further into the black hole. After retirement this person had dogs and walked miles every day, was in excellent health and ate sensibly so I must come to the conclusion that the lack of social interaction led to their decline. That is my opinion and I am certainly not an expert.

So from that experience, I think being social and having friends, and doing coffee and just getting out and about may be very good for us as we age, and what better place to do it than right here in TV.

Would I want to live to 90+ - ask me then![ragtime?]could you explain the ragtime reference...thanks

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

I'm a part-time moderator..............working at becoming full-time.

To be clear about this special, I believe that I remember one, maybe two drinks at the most [per day, but it was not limited to wine. And no more than three cups of coffee were also good. Being slightly overweight was better than being thinner as we age. But not obese.

[Madelaine Amee]

Originally Posted by Loudoll

[Could you explain the ragtime reference...thank you }I just watched it and totally agree on one thing - socialization. I have a very close family member who was very intelligent, had an executive job, traveled extensively and is now almost a vegetable and cannot, just cannot, stop talking - unfortunately ragtime.

In their mid-40s they got married to a very private person who did not like to be around people, did not like to entertain, and did not socialize unless it was talking to other dog walkers. They did not socialize on holidays and even spent Christmas alone. When the partner died the remaining partner had no friends, did not socialize with the neighbors and slowly over a good many years sank further and further into the black hole. After retirement this person had dogs and walked miles every day, was in excellent health and ate sensibly so I must come to the conclusion that the lack of social interaction led to their decline. That is my opinion and I am certainly not an expert.

So from that experience, I think being social and having friends, and doing coffee and just getting out and about may be very good for us as we age, and what better place to do it than right here in TV.

Would I want to live to 90+ - ask me then![ragtime?]could you explain the ragtime reference...thanks

I'm surprised you are not familiar with this term, it's well known in the North East - quote from the dictionary: Something that someone says that another considers foolish; absurd; an absurd comment for instance "Oh Carol, you're talking ragtime."

In my particular case the relative fixates on one particular subject such as the time of day, and repeats over and over "what time is it", and then just as suddenly will switch to another short topic which they repeat continually - sort of drives you crazy if you have to be around it too long.

I have no idea where this saying originated, and there is nothing musical about it either. You could google it for more information on the terminology.

[DruannB]

My mom is 93 and still flirts with the mailman (who hand delivers her mail), danced at my second wedding in a red dress and monopolized all the 20 year olds (she was 83 at the time), loves to read, and can't live without gossip. She's also healthier than I am. I want to grow up and be like my mom.

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Being slightly overweight was better than being thinner as we age. But not obese.

As long as others are using anecdotes as "proof" of one thing or another, I have one that I would like to use as a rebuttal to the idea that slightly overweight is better than being thinner as we age.

Nancy Reagan has always been thin, especially now in her old age. She turned 93 on July 6, 2014.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Living to 90 and beyond - CBS News
I found this study interesting. These folks had their original health evaluation in 1981(35,000 of the residents of Leisure Village) and they are following the group of over-ninety folks who live in what is now called Laguna Hills in California. You may be surprised at some of the medical findings. Their diet didn't seem to matter. Alcohol did and moderate use is good. Exercise is important but vitamins and supplements don't seem to help. Being skinny was a detriment as we age as well as being obese. Up to three cups of coffee a day helped.
I enjoyed this segment reported by Lesley Stahl.

A very interesting study, thanks for posting.
It's great to see the over 90s and hear their wisdom.

[Villages PL]

George H. W. Bush has always been thin and is now 90 years old.

[Villages PL]

Edna Parker turned 115 on 04-20-08 and died on 11-26-08. Her relatives said she was not known to worry, and had always been a thin person.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

Edna Parker turned 115 on 04-20-08 and died on 11-26-08. Her relatives said she was not known to worry, and had always been a thin person.

The study is finding that healthy people in their nineties are not thin but not fat either. I got that it was better to be a few pounds heavier than a few pounds thinner. I know that is true in osteoporosis studies.

You see I have no problem with people developing medicine to prevent and alleviate symptoms of illness. I do not think that not taking medications is some big badge of honor. I do not mind that pharmaceutical companies fund research sometimes. And I often wonder about folks who say they take no medicine whether their doctor agrees that that is the best plan for their health and wonder if they just refuse to take the medicine the doctors suggest.

It is a proven fact that people are living longer because of statins.

Most people do not wish to follow a very defined diet. I was pleased to hear that the long livers or the oldest old didn't restrict themselves much in diet.

For everyone's theory there is an opposing one. Our family chooses the best primary care provider that we can find and we follow his or her advice. For those who think a study or a plan or a book is good that opposes my study or plan or book, well it's a free country.

Live long and prosper.

[dewilson58]

Just had lunch with my parents.
Both over 90.
Both have stored extra food over their +90 years.
Both grew up on a farm and ate everything.
Back then, you just didn't throw away any part of the pig or cow.
Dad was in the Korean War & WWI and learned to smoke.
Luckily he quit prior to 50.

115 lbs or 215 lbs..........you never know.

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

The study is finding that healthy people in their nineties are not thin but not fat either. I got that it was better to be a few pounds heavier than a few pounds thinner. I know that is true in osteoporosis studies.

Science is all about measuring things so I doubt a study that doesn't quantify what they are talking about. For example, what range are they talking about on the BMI chart and what percentage range of body fat do they allow? It seems they are leaving it to the viewer's or reader's imagination.

You see I have no problem with people developing medicine to prevent and alleviate symptoms of illness. I do not think that not taking medications is some big badge of honor. I do not mind that pharmaceutical companies fund research sometimes. And I often wonder about folks who say they take no medicine whether their doctor agrees that that is the best plan for their health and wonder if they just refuse to take the medicine the doctors suggest.

No one ever said that not taking medication is a big badge of honor. I was told that one should set a good example. This is for anyone who wants to share their good fortune or experience. So I tell people what or how I eat and I mention that I'm healthy and don't have to take any medication. The reason I do that is because I have become aware of the fact that there are now people who take multiple medications and claim to be healthy. I do it in the interest of being factual and to show people that there's a better way of aging.

It is a proven fact that people are living longer because of statins.

I think many of them might even live longer if they would improve their lifestyle (diet and exercise) and not have to take statins.

Most people do not wish to follow a very defined diet. I was pleased to hear that the long livers or the oldest old didn't restrict themselves much in diet.

I didn't see any statistics about their health status: Have they had heart procedures, operations for cancer etc. or do they take multiple prescription drugs? All of the above have an effect on one's quality of life.

For everyone's theory there is an opposing one. Our family chooses the best primary care provider that we can find and we follow his or her advice. For those who think a study or a plan or a book is good that opposes my study or plan or book, well it's a free country.

I just finished reading a new book where the author talks about how the scientific process works. He said that not all studies are going to be good, for various reasons. It's just how the process works. One study may not be the best but gives another researcher an idea for a study that is designed and controlled differently. The best bet, therefore, is to look at lots of different studies before deciding on what the best lifestyle might be.

He also talks about doctors and how they are limited. They may be doing the best they can under the circumstances but there's only so much they can do.

Live long and prosper.

Dittos.

[graciegirl]

I am sure that the Department of Neurology that is overseeing this study is documenting all of the things mentioned by VPL. After all that is how a valid study is found to be valid.. It is no baby game. They will be dotting the i's and crossing the t's.

I perceived the warmth and intelligence of the doctor in charge and thought what a nice person to do this, she must really get to know these charming people and she must also mourn them as they leave the study.