[ALadysMom]

Originally Posted by nututv

Masks are to keep hospitals etc from being overwhelmed. I heard that here from a TOTV PHD/MD/BS lol. Remove 300,000 annually from ER's and hospitals in general and you've removed a major headache. And I agree it isn't contagious but have you ever seen a skinny kid who had obese parents? Some of the biggest kids I taught in scouts had mom's and dad's that were seriously wide. It runs in families. McDonald genes we called them.
Let's see, 40% of the population is obese. You don't think that to produce what is required to create and sustain all that doesn't create millions of tons of 'stuff' that's potentially fatal to others.

It's not my job! That is by far, the saddest thing I can remember reading. It sure the heck is, it's everyone's job. Do you have kids or grand kids? Better show them all the wildlife you can while you can. We're killing them with cruelty and pollution faster than the poor animals can multiply.
Then I guess it's my job. I've seen this first hand, it's repulsive.
This whale had more than 88 pounds of plastic in its stomach when it died.

Maybe Covid is a blessing in disguise. Maybe there are just too many of us and Mother Nature really is winning.

Wow. Just wow.

[sallybowron]

Originally Posted by Dayeight99

No they don’t. The virus is a microbe. If you can get air through a mask you can get the virus. It can penetrate the mask just as air can. Only useful in clinical environments to prevent hairs, spittle, etc, from entering an open wound or an open mouth.

I was told that using a very thin layer of chiffon inside your mask will prevent the droplets from going through a mask.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by ALadysMom

I appreciate your admission but there are more than just a few loopholes 😷 (get it? LOL) in your sanitization procedure. Sorry. Not touching the inside is a great attempt at cleanliness but the world is a huge microbial soup and your damp mask inside that plastic bag in Floridian heat is a growth vector for mold, bacteria and, yes, viruses. The chemical residues of soap, fabric softener, etc. from the laundry and the dyes, microfibers and other things from the fabric are being inhaled with every breath you take. There are good reasons why medical masks are sterile, made from specialty paper and single use/disposable.

Staying home is so relaxing by comparison.

So far, I haven't harmed myself by wearing my cloth mask more than once. I will make sure that it is laundered frequently.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Dayeight99

Then wear it everyday for the rest of your life because there’s always “something going around”. Seasonal flu, colds, etc. They’re all contagious. Please, never take it off or you’re a hypocrite.

Now that is just silly. Of course there will come a time when we can all take off our masks and feel safe from Covid-19. That time will come when there is a safe successful vaccine and/or there is a safe reliable effective treatment.

In the meantime, I'll continue to wear my mask indoors when social distancing is not guaranteed. Can't wait to go maskless all the time like the old days and not have to worry about this pesky virus out there.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by nututv

Masks are to keep hospitals etc from being overwhelmed. I heard that here from a TOTV PHD/MD/BS lol. Remove 300,000 annually from ER's and hospitals in general and you've removed a major headache. And I agree it isn't contagious but have you ever seen a skinny kid who had obese parents? Some of the biggest kids I taught in scouts had mom's and dad's that were seriously wide. It runs in families. McDonald genes we called them.
Let's see, 40% of the population is obese. You don't think that to produce what is required to create and sustain all that doesn't create millions of tons of 'stuff' that's potentially fatal to others.

It's not my job! That is by far, the saddest thing I can remember reading. It sure the heck is, it's everyone's job. Do you have kids or grand kids? Better show them all the wildlife you can while you can. We're killing them with cruelty and pollution faster than the poor animals can multiply.
Then I guess it's my job. I've seen this first hand, it's repulsive.
This whale had more than 88 pounds of plastic in its stomach when it died.

Maybe Covid is a blessing in disguise. Maybe there are just too many of us and Mother Nature really is winning.

Sorry to disagree with you but, it isn't my job to pick up items that may be contaminated with the virus.

I have, however, prior to this coronavirus pandemic, walked around our neighborhood in NJ with a large trash bag and picked up all sorts of litter and never gave it a second thought. I enjoyed it in fact, especially how nice the area looked when we were done. My husband and I used to do that together. We always wore gloves when we did our "clean up trash" walks. Having said that, I'm not going to do that now in this time of a pandemic.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by sallybowron

I was told that using a very thin layer of chiffon inside your mask will prevent the droplets from going through a mask.

I tested a single layer of a Bounty paper towel by spritzing it with water in front of my bathroom mirror. I've tried that "experiment" also using a single layer of T-shirt material. The mirror stayed absolutely dry. I purchased cloth masks online and did this same test. No droplets got through the double layer of fabric to the mirror. I feel pretty good that I'm keeping my droplets contained from anyone around me when I'm indoors and social distancing can not be guaranteed.

I don't think these masks protect me much at all but that is not the reason for wearing home made masks.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by nututv

Masks are to keep hospitals etc from being overwhelmed ... Snipped .... Maybe Covid is a blessing in disguise.

COVID is not a blessing in disguise.
How could you say that? Talk to the families of people who have died.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I don't think these masks protect me much at all but that is not the reason for wearing home made masks.

I would not underestimate the level of protection, every little bit helps reduce risk..

There was a Missouri hair salon where the stylists and all of their clients wore face masks. Two hairstylists with coronavirus ended up not infecting any of their 140 clients.
One stylist treated 84 clients and the other worked with 56, and six co-workers were also exposed. Forty-six of them pursued testing and all tested negative, while the rest were quarantined for a 14-day period, according to the health department.

Additionally, there were no cases of coronavirus out of the more than 400 other people who were in the Great Clips location during the shifts by the two affected stylist.

Missouri Great Clips hairstylists with coronavirus did not infect 140 clients

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by nututv

Maybe Covid is a blessing in disguise. Maybe there are just too many of us and Mother Nature really is winning.

Maybe people unwilling to help reduce the risks for others should not consume hospital resources if they become infected...

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

COVID is not a blessing in disguise.
How could you say that?
Talk to the families of people who have died.

I agree.

[nututv]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

COVID is not a blessing in disguise.
How could you say that? Talk to the families of people who have died.

I'm a member of a family who has had someone pass away. From my newborn son 30 years ago to my 94 year old father last year. I myself have been on the brink twice.
If I had the choice of clearing out all mankind for the sake of all Mother Nature, we'd all be gone and she and her millions of species would thrive without our greedy and inconsiderate 1. Sorry, just my opinion.
'the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few' is an arbitrary assertion and a restatement of the baseless moral theory known as utilitarianism, which asserts that each individual should act to serve the greatest good for the greatest number.
Now back to the mask thread I guess.

[cleanwater]

Played Cane garden golf today. Had to pay inside. Sign on door says Masks are recommended. I wore mine. No one else did. I was especially unhappy none of the staff wore masks. TERRIBLE EXAMPLE to set. Where is the golf mgmt that allows their staff to flaunt their recommendations? When Covid arrives here again we’ll be hit hard if basic precautions are not used.

[nututv]

Originally Posted by cleanwater

mgmt that allows their staff to flaunt their recommendations?

Because is a recommendation, not mandatory attire. If I had a choice, I wouldn't have been wearing one. If it bothered you that much, you should not have been there IMO.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Robbie0723

I would not underestimate the level of protection, every little bit helps reduce risk..

There was a Missouri hair salon where the stylists and all of their clients wore face masks. Two hairstylists with coronavirus ended up not infecting any of their 140 clients.
One stylist treated 84 clients and the other worked with 56, and six co-workers were also exposed. Forty-six of them pursued testing and all tested negative, while the rest were quarantined for a 14-day period, according to the health department.

Additionally, there were no cases of coronavirus out of the more than 400 other people who were in the Great Clips location during the shifts by the two affected stylist.

Missouri Great Clips hairstylists with coronavirus did not infect 140 clients

This is certainly a plus for wearing home made masks. Watching those folks in Tulsa (waiting for the rally) being interviewed and they are saying they are not worried at all about getting the virus and they will not wear masks. These people honestly believe what they are saying. It baffles me how they can deny a story such as the one you posted. Masks do slow the spread of this virus but some folks out there will not believe the evidence.

[nututv]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Masks do slow the spread of this virus but some folks out there will not believe the evidence.

Maybe some folks are healthy enough they aren't worried if they get it or not? Like me.
My grandfather died of the flu in the late eighties. I don't recall seeing anyone wearing masks then.