[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Randall55

I see your point. But, I also understand a need to bring attention to the fact that chiropractors ARE NOT medical doctors. I believe some lives can be saved if people understood this. Some people do not have the education or experience to know the person they are visiting for medical reasons IS NOT a medical doctor. I believe they should have to post this fact in their office.

I almost lost a friend who was misinformed about chiropractors. Had she been aware, she would never have gone in the first place. Denigrate the profession? If that is what it takes for them to be honest with a patient. What is more important? A person's life or keeping quiet that the PHD a chiropractor does NOT make him a medical doctor. (just so we don't hurt their feelings) They have their usefulness, no doubt. But, people should be informed of what that usefulness is.

BTW: A medical doctor denigrating a chiropractor is not hypocritical. You stated both are in the same profession. They are not! A chiropractor IS NOT a medical doctor. I am not in the medical field, but I am going to put myself out there and state -NOT EVEN CLOSE! They only have a few similarities. I have a friend who has a PHD in the field of education. Does that compare to a medical doctor?

A chiropractor DOES NOT have a PhD... They receive a DC.

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

But you forgot one thing: God forbid you have a cardiac arrest, but if so, pray there is a chiropractor present to resuscitate you and bring you "back from the dead", unless there is also a PhD in gender studies who knows how to place a pacing Swan-Ganz catheter. (It's like a Band-Aid, only different)

PS: Strangely enough, I returned from Europe last week and imported COVID. Actually, I was pretty sick for a while---T 103.7 and pulse ox dropped to 84%. Fortunately, I was able to find a chiropractor that knew that COVID is caused by spinal subluxation and had just the right "adjustment" to cure it.

I am looking forward to the ridiculous posts about our exchange. I will need a good chuckle. It will provide me some needed relief from all those boring court proceedings I have attend.

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

A chiropractor DOES NOT have a PhD... They receive a DC.

Okay.Ithanks for correcting me. I will look up what that means tomorrow. Today, my schedule is full.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Randall55

Okay.Ithanks for correcting me. I will look up what that means tomorrow. Today, my schedule is full.

Doctor of Chiropractic...

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Doctor of Chiropractic...

I was just being sarcastic

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Randall55

I am looking forward to the ridiculous posts about our exchange. I will need a good chuckle. It will provide me some needed relief from all those boring court proceedings I have attend.

Hey, they've already dug their hole halfway to China, they've proven that their brain consists of two neurons held together by a spirochete, why wouldn't they just continue? After all, they haven't figured out that we're not laughing with them, we're laughing at them.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Randall55

I was just being sarcastic

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Hey, they've already dug their hole halfway to China, they've proven that their brain consists of two neurons held together by a spirochete, why wouldn't they just continue? After all, they haven't figured out that we're not laughing with them, we're laughing at them.

"Spirochete"?

I now wonder how many are now feverishly Googling that word...

[jebartle]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

NO, they aren't. By self proclamation they use the title, but that's where any similarity ends.

Sooooo, the term "doctor" must be bestowed by golfing eagle or it doesn't exist. Your such an authority, definitely sarcasm. There are 10,000 patients in NC that called my husband doctor and were delighted with the results, removing the back pain, he NEVER "practiced" medicine, because he was a CHIROPRACTOR and a damn good one.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jebartle

Sooooo, the term "doctor" must be bestowed by golfing eagle or it doesn't exist. Your such an authority, definitely sarcasm. There are 10,000 patients in NC that called my husband doctor and were delighted with the results, removing the back pain, he NEVER "practiced" medicine, because he was a CHIROPRACTOR and a damn good one.

No, it actually has to be bestowed by an accredited college of medicine, despite your lame jab. And if you had actually read my posts you would have seen that I frequently referred patients to chiropractors, when indicated. The message I was conveying is that NO ONE SHOULD EVER see a chiropractor first, bad things can happen. Even your husband felt better(or should have) when treating a patient who had been diagnosed first. Look, sometimes chiropractic works, but chiropractors have neither the tools or education to diagnose medical problems--in fact I've never heard a "chiropractic diagnosis" that was anything other than "a subluxation of a vertebral body". It's not his fault, it's just that chiropractors don't do the same thing as medical doctors. Unfortunately, many in the public tend to conflate the two professions when they are no where even close to equal. And I don't think the chiropractic community is all that eager to dispel that myth either. Hence, you may consider my posts as a public service announcement.

[Cybersprings]

Originally Posted by Randall55

I see your point. But, I also understand a need to bring attention to the fact that chiropractors ARE NOT medical doctors. I believe some lives can be saved if people understood this. Some people do not have the education or experience to know the person they are visiting for medical reasons IS NOT a medical doctor. I believe they should have to post this fact in their office.

I almost lost a friend who was misinformed about chiropractors. Had she been aware, she would never have gone in the first place. Denigrate the profession? If that is what it takes for them to be honest with a patient. What is more important? A person's life or keeping quiet that the PHD a chiropractor does NOT make him a medical doctor. (just so we don't hurt their feelings) They have their usefulness, no doubt. But, people should be informed of what that usefulness is.

BTW: A medical doctor denigrating a chiropractor is not hypocritical. You stated both are in the same profession. They are not! A chiropractor IS NOT a medical doctor. I am not in the medical field, but I am going to put myself out there and state -NOT EVEN CLOSE! They only have a few similarities. I have a friend who has a PHD in the field of education. Does that compare to a medical doctor?

It is so hard to have a discussion when you have to respond to people saying you said things when it is clear to an average reader that I said the exact opposite. I said Denigrating an entire profession due to screwups while ignoring the same in your own profession…That clearly states that I was saying they were NOT the same profession.

[Babubhat]

It’s Always YMMV. Took 5 different chiropractors to find one that provided permanent relief. Most treat symptoms and not the underlying cause.

No need to endlessly debate credentials. If one isn’t satisfactory try another. If they want to fill up a card run away

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by Cybersprings

It is so hard to have a discussion when you have to respond to people saying you said things when it is clear to an average reader that I said the exact opposite. I said Denigrating an entire profession due to screwups while ignoring the same in your own profession…That clearly states that I was saying they were NOT the same profession.

I reread your post and you did separate the two professions. My mistake. However, I was not talking about screwups in my post. Of course, in any profession, mistakes happen. Misrepresenting yourself as a medical doctor when you are not, is not a screw-up. It is a blatant lie. One that I find atrocious since a person's life is at risk. A person should have a complete understanding of what a chiropractor can and cannot do.

It is not hypocritical to educate people of the difference between a medical doctor and a chiropractor. Because it saves lives, I would argue that is part of a medical doctor's job. I would much rather hear the truth and not have my body realigned or whatever, and told everything will be fine. When just by looking at me one can obviously see medical attention is needed. But that's just it! A chiropractor has no medical training and may not recognize when a patient is in need of a medical doctor's attention.

I would expect a chiropractor to refuse treatment until I received a medical diagnosis. I am not in the medical field, but I can easily understand treating someone who has not been medically diagnosed can lead to unnecessary complications or death. Even a layperson knows, when in doubt, it is best to call 911.

[Babubhat]

I see no relevance to any of this. What may have happened to someone else is only applicable to that person. Go or don’t go. Every experience is individual. It’s as much an art as science. A good chiropractor previously mentioned provided immense personal relief. One more for the ignore list

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by Babubhat

I see no relevance to any of this. What may have happened to someone else is only applicable to that person. Go or don’t go. Every experience is individual. It’s as much an art as science. A good chiropractor previously mentioned provided immense personal relief. One more for the ignore list

Am I supposed to be insulted? We can all agree to disagree. Or, one can read an entire thread before posting. Or, one can just race to the ignore button. The choice is everyone's to make.