[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

This is probably the 15th thread on or that ended up on this subject. Just more trolling because the "obvious answer" (whatever anyone claims it is) will never be determined by anyone including the OP so it's simply one more time to rehash what has been rehashed ad nauseam here for weeks. Really beginning to miss all the Costco, dog poop and the "mysterious 2 ladies in a golf cart with a clipboard" threads. But in any case there is no "OBVIOUS ANSWER, there is only lots of opinions and you know what "they" say about opinions.

It is NOT OPINIONS. Science has studied viruses for many many years. It is a known fact, from scientific evidence that droplets are blocked by masks that have a tight weave. Do not call this an opinion because it isn't.

[600th Photo Sq]

[QUOTE=CarolSells;1774558]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Hi Gracie,
I was asking how CFrance knew how many “selfish” people didn’t get flu shots during the 2017 - 2018 flu epidemic.

Actually I didn't get a Flu Shot during that time, in fact I haven't had a Flu shot in umpteen years. Flu free for many, many +++ years.

Now I don't consider myself selfish nor does my family and friends far from it.

You have tagged, labeled those who chose not to get a Flu shot " Selfish ".

So what makes you an expert on " Selfishness ".

Since you are seeking an opinion from another person you obviously aren't the only one who consider themselves a " Selfish Person Expert " Give me a break.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Byte1

I'll make a deal with you. Once they develop a vaccine or remedy for this illness, I will stop wearing a mask when I think it is prudent. Then, I will cover my sneeze to prove to you that I had proper upbringing. Considering that there is only about one in a thousand chances of catching the virus in The Villages, if that....I am not going to stress over it. It does make for good conversation.
It is kind of fun to watch folks that get too close to you, when you fake a few coughs.

A couple of days ago while sitting in a restaurant, an elderly woman let loose with a huge sneeze right into the air. We were sitting at the next table but thankfully 6 feet away from her table. She followed that up with a second sneeze right into her hand. Not funny.

[Cheapbas]

Originally Posted by Byte1

So, you wear sunglasses to protect your neighbor? Selfish? How about those obnoxious persons that wish to get into everyone else's business and demand that they conform to "THEIR" standards or wishes? To those folks, I say "get over yourselves."
I only wear a mask and gloves when I am planning on shopping to protect my spouse. Yes, I wear gloves when I shop. DO YOU? Are you going to suggest that those that do not wear gloves are not being "courteous" to their neighbors? Maybe you do not feel that gloves are necessary? Maybe some do not believe that masks are necessary.
My compromise is this; you wear your mask to protect me from your illnesses if you wish. I will wear my mask a bit longer, but pretty soon I plan to give it up as a moot endeavor. And yes, I will use Walmart so if you folks do not wish to see me without a mask, then plan to go elsewhere. I have always used the santi wipe provided at the door to clean the cart and my hands, but that is my wish and not a mandated one to please you.
I do not judge you if you wish to wear a bio hazard suit in public, so quit judging others for their position on this plague that has been added to the long list of others that the world has survived. Some will live and some will perish. That's life. Protect yourself and do not insist that I am obligated to coddle you the way you wish to be coddled.
This is my opinion, which is just as valid as anyone else's on here. I do not believe in seat belt laws, even though I wear my seatbelt. I do not believe in helmet laws, even though I wear a helmet on my motorcycle even in those states that do not mandate it's use. Use you own common sense and do not insist on protecting others when they do not wish your intervention.
By the way, stores can display signs asking folks to wear a mask but they cannot force one to wear a mask. At least that is what one store employee said to me.
Argue all you wish but wearing a mask is just for cosmetics, so if you wish to avoid the virus, your best bet is just lock yourself up in your home and never go out until given the all clear announcement. Good luck on that.

Please see diagram posted by CFrance in post #2. That’s what I am going with, I don’t care what it’s origins are.

[CarolSells]

Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq

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Actually I didn't get a Flu Shot during that time, in fact I haven't had a Flu shot in umpteen years. Flu free for many, many +++ years.

Now I don't consider myself selfish nor does my family and friends far from it.

You have tagged, labeled those who chose not to get a Flu shot " Selfish ".

So what makes you an expert on " Selfishness ".

Since you are seeking an opinion from another person you obviously aren't the only one who consider themselves a " Selfish Person Expert " Give me a break.

FYI. I didn’t call the people who didn’t get flu shots selfish. CFrance did.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Y'all need to learn how to use the quote button correctly. You're answering the wrong peoples' posts and then answering the wrong peoples' posts to complain that they're answering the wrong peoples' posts.

[Velvet]

Everyone should have the right not to get flu shots or vaccines etc... but then they should also give up their rights to go out in public anywhere where they may infect others. Because what no one has a right to is to endanger or hurt others.

[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Everyone should have the right not to get flu shots or vaccines etc... but then they should also give up their rights to go out in public anywhere where they may infect others. Because what no one has a right to is to endanger or hurt others.

Wrong.

[600th Photo Sq]

Originally Posted by CarolSells

FYI. I didn’t call the people who didn’t get flu shots selfish. CFrance did.

I do apologize you are 100% correct. I did go back and look at her post . Unlike your post's, CFrance post are all over the place , sort of like hitting the cue ball into all the balls on a pool table really hard.

You obviously are a detail person. I respect that.

I bet you smile a lot

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Everyone should have the right not to get flu shots or vaccines etc... but then they should also give up their rights to go out in public anywhere where they may infect others. Because what no one has a right to is to endanger or hurt others.

Why? That's just your opinion. The type of opinion that results in gov tyranny.

Edited: Never mind, beating a dead horse. And it did not die of Covid 19, but I am sure it was labeled as the cause.

[CarolSells]

Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq

I do apologize you are 100% correct. I did go back and look at her post . Unlike your post's, CFrance post are all over the place , sort of like hitting the cue ball into all the balls on a pool table really hard.

You obviously are a detail person. I respect that.

I bet you smile a lot

Thanks for checking back in. 😎

[600th Photo Sq]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Everyone should have the right not to get flu shots or vaccines etc... but then they should also give up their rights to go out in public anywhere where they may infect others. Because what no one has a right to is to endanger or hurt others.

I am willing to bet that you have gone out in public with the common cold knowing full well you could pass on your germs to others. Multiple times.

So what is the difference, Getting a Flu shot doesn't make anyone immune it just lessons the % . 70-30...… 60-40..... 80-20 … ?

So preaching to individuals your opinion is basically worthless.

[GoodLife]

Everyone should read this paper by two Doctors who are respiratory protection specialists. They looked at all the scientific papers on various types of facemasks and have some solid conclusions. They don't look at youtube videos of someone sneezing thru a tee shirt into a petri dish.

COMMENTARY: Masks-for-all for COVID-19 not based on sound data | CIDRAP

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Everyone should read this paper by two Doctors who are respiratory protection specialists. They looked at all the scientific papers on various types of facemasks and have some solid conclusions. They don't look at youtube videos of someone sneezing thru a tee shirt into a petri dish.

COMMENTARY: Masks-for-all for COVID-19 not based on sound data | CIDRAP

Per the link, two of the main reasons they are against masks are:

- Their use may result in those wearing the masks to relax other distancing efforts because they have a sense of protection.

- We need to preserve the supply of surgical masks for at-risk healthcare workers.

...telling the public to wear cloth or surgical masks could be interpreted by some to mean that people are safe to stop isolating at home.

It's too late now for anything but stopping as much person-to-person interaction as possible.

In other words, their recommendation is to continue social-distancing...and to stay at home.



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[Scbang]

Originally Posted by Andyhope

Okay...if you want to wear a mask, do so. If you are wearing a mask , I don’t need one

You are missing the point. Whether I am wearing one to protect you is not the point. You need to wear one to protect me. Please..