[DiandJay]

Read the book. It was quite good.

[Cobullymom]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Let me fix that for you:

A vaccine, by one definition, provides immunity. No vaccines are 100% effective in providing immunity. In order to keep using the word "vaccine" in today's landscape with vaccine deniers, one must change that definition of vaccine.

Vaccine deniers? Denying something that doesn't work? More like vaccine brainwashed.

[Cobullymom]

Originally Posted by blueash

Do you have any evidence, any at all, that the incidence of deaths, in athletes or others, is any different now than it has always been? Because there is no such evidence. You just are getting fed scare data from sources with an agenda to make you anti-science and anti-vaccine. Young people have always had these adverse events.

My first patient as an asst. chief resident was a 19 year old with an aortic aneurism. My daughter had a soccer player drop dead playing against her team in the 1990s. I am fairly sure these were not Covid vaccine side effects.

There is no increase in sudden deaths. There was a signal finding of increase myocarditis from the J&J vaccine about 18 months ago which is why is not a shot of choice any longer.

Certain news media talking heads have giddily produced lists of young people who have had heart problems like the Bills football player and showed you that list and claimed that all of them are victims of a shot. No data whether they did or did not get a vaccine, or when. No data on whether there are more such cases now than in the past [there are not], just a list of names. Don't be a sucker for such nonsense.

Remember that Tucker won a defamation case when the Trump appointed judge wrote:


Remember that Hannity just testified that he never believed that the 2020 election was stolen.

If these people are your news sources look elsewhere. They are not stating actual facts and don't believe what they are telling you to believe.

You're wallowing deep in your politics, I believe you're crossing the line. Why hasn't this post been deleted and the poster been warned? That's how this site works supposedly..we will see, I'll be watching.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by Cobullymom

Vaccine deniers? Denying something that doesn't work? More like vaccine brainwashed.

That's why the unvaccinated in China are dropping like flies. Karma is a bitch.

You should be thanking the vaccinated for protecting you and your family instead of slinging ignorant insults.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Cobullymom

You're wallowing deep in your politics, I believe you're crossing the line. Why hasn't this post been deleted and the poster been warned? That's how this site works supposedly..we will see, I'll be watching.

Perhaps because there was nothing at all political in that post.

[terryf484]

Originally Posted by mtdjed

Recent news indicates a CDC signal indicated a possible concern with the Pfizor booster. Several other monitors do not duplicate this finding and CDC continues to encourage continued usage of this booster. While I have absolutely no training in this area, I did want to know the significance of the "adverse event signal". The following is what I found. The 3rd paragraph seemed a bit undefined (sentence in Bold Red). Same data used but with a different methodology could not replicate.


"The signal was detected in the Vaccine Safety Datalink, a collaboration involving the CDC and about a dozen health-care organizations with electronic health records on 12 million people. As part of routine monitoring for possible adverse events, officials noticed late last year that they were picking up indications of higher-than-expected stroke risk, officials said.

Among about 550,000 people 65 and older who had already been vaccinated and received a booster dose of the Pfizer bivalent vaccine, 130 people had strokes in the first three weeks after getting the shot. No deaths have been reported. That finding raised a question because it suggested that people who received the bivalent were more likely to have an ischemic stroke in the 21 days following vaccination compared with Days 22 through 44 following vaccination.

The findings prompted officials to look for similar findings. CDC officials conducted a different analysis in the Vaccine Safety Datalink system, using the same data but different methodology, and were not able to replicate the finding. Officials also searched other systems, including those of Medicare, the Department of Veterans Affairs and Pfizer’s global surveillance network. Regulators in other countries, including Israel, also were consulted, but no evidence of similar findings emerged, the officials said."

If you Google strokes related to COVID - 19 vacs, you also get as many medical studies that state that there is an increase in strokes, especially in younger people as results of getting COVID - 19. So I guess it's dang if you do or dank if you don't, take your pick.

[birdawg]

Do you think we can trust the government?

[Cheapbas]

Originally Posted by DARFAP

Although I've had 2xModerna and a booster, I'm done. Young, healthy people, esp athletes, are suddenly dying: cardiac arrest, strokes, aortic dissections... Now even CDC is investigating Pfizer vax causing strokes. Never again for me.

Here are the numbers, 1600 reports of myocarditis in 360,000,000 injections. And this isn’t deaths. So, you are not young and the odds of this happening are .000005. Weigh those odds against catching COVID and possibly severe outcomes like hospitalization, long COVID or worse.

[Harold.wiser]

It was not properly tested and ru$hed to the market. The long-term effects of this DNA altering "vaccine" will not be known for quite some time however, some of the negative effects are already surfacing.
There must be big money in it because they are still promoting it!

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Harold.wiser

It was not properly tested and ru$hed to the market. The long-term effects of this DNA altering "vaccine" will not be known for quite some time however, some of the negative effects are already surfacing.
There must be big money in it because they are still promoting it!

What ones?
Interested, as I have had all the recommended shots, without a perceived problem, but would like to know what to watch out for.

[NotGolfer]

Did any of you think when they said it wasn't tested that y'all were a part of the tests?? Trust the "science" they said........

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by NotGolfer

Did any of you think when they said it wasn't tested that y'all were a part of the tests?? Trust the "science" they said........

Who is the "they" who said it wasn't tested? I remember hearing about the testing and reading the test reports with the analysis of the efficacy.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by DiandJay

Read the book. It was quite good.

We read it after my MIL was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer at 86, after she passed away. I am using what i learned in the book with handling my 96 year old mom, with dementia, so that we avoid any unnecessary pain or suffering. Also we have adopted the attitudes of the support staff for people with known little time left.

Made a huge difference in our outlooks on how to handle aging and on being mortal.
A major point is about how to handle increased less time left, which adopts a more positive outlook for each day which is a gift. . .

[waltwl]

Originally Posted by Cobullymom

You're wallowing deep in your politics, I believe you're crossing the line. Why hasn't this post been deleted and the poster been warned? That's how this site works supposedly..we will see, I'll be watching.

Free speech

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by waltwl

Free speech

Irrelevant. "Free Speech" deals with the government limiting your speech. Not a private message board...