[MorTech]

Carbohydrates and plant-based oils (Linoleic Acid) are the drivers of chronic body-wide inflammation and insulin resistance which causes all modern aliments and disease. I urge you all to try this experiment: Eat only beef/shrimp/water for one month. The carbohydrate cravings will subside after about the first week so power thru! After one month you will feel better than you ever have and your thinking will become clearer...Brain fog is subtle to the point you don't know you have it. Same with chronic inflammation.

Personally, I have not had even one sick day in the last 30 years...That wasn't self-inflicted by alcohol consumption

[MorTech]

I think most people would rather die than give up all their yummies. I suspect doctors recognize this and don't want to waste their breathe trying to talking you into changing diet. Eat to Live or Live to Eat - most choose the later.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by La lamy

Totally agree that docs are way too eager to
prescribe pills
instead of
encouraging
lifestyle
changes. I'm
fortunate to
have grown up
in a health
conscious
family where
healthy food and
getting outside
for daily
exercise was the
norm. After
menopause I
started
developing
digestive issues
and doc said I
should go on
meds. I chose to
do a daily diet
log instead.
Figured out what
made me feel
pain/throat
closing after a
few weeks,
made the
changes, no
meds needed.
Food is our best
pharmaceutical
if well chosen!

Do you mind sharing what foods you are avoiding? I am having the same symptoms you described. Trying to figure out what foods a
is causing this. Maybe your suggestion will help. Thanks in advance.

[MorTech]

Sugar and plant seed oils are the cause of all modern disease. Don't eat sweets (and don't eat bread/potato/pasta/rice/fruit) and use butter, tallow. lard. or refined coconut oil.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Michael 61

Depending on what your conditions, chronic issues are, yes!

I’m in my early 60s, and have take several meds for various conditions (high blood pressure, pre-diabetes, chronic inflammation, etc) since my 30s.

Doctors have never really discussed lifestyle changes with me, but have always been quick to prescribe meds to “mask” the symptoms.

I started researching my various conditions a few years back. I began to focus on diet (get rid of sugars, seed oils, processed foods, high-carb foods), began a focused exercise routine, brought weight down to a BMI of 22.5.

Today, is a red-letter day. I was told to get off my final med, as all my numbers are in very good to excellent range. No longer pre-diabetic. Cholesterol excellent. Blood pressure in very good range. Inflammation eliminated. Lots of energy, sleeping great. How many people in their early 60s can claim this!

I’m posting this as an encouragement to many out there that feel they will be on these meds for life. There is a way off for some. I realize that everyone’s situation is different, and some need to stay on their meds. But for others, there is a way off, through being laser-focused on diet/exercise/weight.

Good for you most can’t do that.

At 73 my BMI is now 24.1 and problem with blood tests 1 point above high cholesterol number (100). Which I changed my eating habit see if it lowers on its own, I’ve never been extreme over weight most at most 15 to 20 pounds from my height 72 inches.
My gold was not get on any of so called preventative prescribed medication drugs. IMO you have to weight the possible side effects vs problem, prescription drugs really don’t solve the problem but controls some vs lifestyle changes.

Lifestyle changes are too hard for most at any age and especially when older and over weight. It’s never too late to start but damage may already been done even though on paper it looks good?

In Florida I’d be careful on hot humid days when sun high exercising.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by MorTech

I think most people would rather die than give up all their yummies. I suspect doctors recognize this and don't want to waste their breathe trying to talking you into changing diet. Eat to Live or Live to Eat - most choose the later.

Most smoker’s would rather die rather than quit smoking which included wacky weed. Had uncle that was on oxygen take mask off to puff on cigarettes.

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Most smoker’s would rather die rather than quit smoking which included wacky weed. Had uncle that was on oxygen take mask off to puff on cigarettes.

Yup...Ever witness a smoker smoke out of the hole in their neck after cancer surgery?
Lord Nicotine is powerful...Much easier to quit carbohydrates and caffeine.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by MorTech

Sugar and plant seed oils are the cause of all modern disease. Don't eat sweets (and don't eat bread/potato/pasta/rice/fruit) and use butter, tallow. lard. or refined coconut oil.

Absolute nonsense, horsepucky, fake news, alt-med supplement advertising woo.

Sugar and plant seed oils are not "the cause" of "all modern disease."

If that was true, then ALL people who abstain from sugar and plant seed oils, would NOT have ANY modern diseases. Since SOME do, then your statement is false.

Posts that insist on absolutes (all, always, never, "the" instead of "a", none) are often (see what I did there?) hyperbole, rhetoric, and/or logical fallacies.

Italians have been enjoying sugary carb breakfasts for centuries, and "modern diseases" is not epidemic in Italy.

One might posit, instead, that OVEREATING sugar and plant seed oils CONTRIBUTES or CAN TRIGGER MANY modern diseases.

That is more likely to be true.

[justjim]

After reading this entire Thread again, many seem to make the “doctors”’out as the villains and patients the victims. I am guessing probably unintentionally. There are many good doctors practicing today. A few not so much. There are patients who find it difficult to change their lifestyles and a good physician can observe after a few visits who they are. Taking a statin and other meds maybe the correct treatment for some patients who don’t have the discipline to change their lifestyles so they can get off some, if not all, their medications. If you don’t trust your physician, especially if he/she hasn’t mentioned lifestyle changes because of your condition, look for another one. Just saying.

[frayedends]

Originally Posted by justjim

After reading this entire Thread again, many seem to make the “doctors”’out as the villains and patients the victims. I am guessing probably unintentionally. There are many good doctors practicing today. A few not so much. There are patients who find it difficult to change their lifestyles and a good physician can observe after a few visits who they are. Taking a statin and other meds maybe the correct treatment for some patients who don’t have the discipline to change their lifestyles so they can get off some, if not all, their medications. If you don’t trust your physician, especially if he/she hasn’t mentioned lifestyle changes because of your condition, look for another one. Just saying.

Sure but how? It’s not like you can interview them. You’re lucky to even find one taking new patients. You can try to search reviews but if you find a good one they likely never have openings.

I’ve had every primary care doc try to push meds and none talk about lifestyle. I just ignored them, changed my diet, fixed all my ailments. The doctors would still say crap like “well your cholesterol is normal but a statin could help lower it more. Drug dealers I say.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by frayedends

Sure but how? It’s not like you can interview them. You’re lucky to even find one taking new patients. You can try to search reviews but if you find a good one they likely never have openings.

I’ve had every primary care doc try to push meds and none talk about lifestyle. I just ignored them, changed my diet, fixed all my ailments. The doctors would still say crap like “well your cholesterol is normal but a statin could help lower it more. Drug dealers I say.

Glad to hear you know so much more than doctors that you can ignore them and treat yourself. I only have 11 years of education post high school and 40 years experience. Can I please come to you for education and treatment???😂😂😂

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Glad to hear you know so much more than doctors that you can ignore them and treat yourself. I only have 11 years of education post high school and 40 years experience. Can I please come to you for education and treatment???������������������

Unfortunately, you float in a boat that contains all sorts of physicians. Many are excellent, well read, open to conversation with their patients and work diligently for the patient's benefit. Sad to say that is not always the case and there are more than a few "inadequate" physicians in one way or another. Why would Drs. be impervious from the issues that plague the general population? They're only human.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Absolute nonsense, horsepucky, fake news, alt-med supplement advertising woo.

Sugar and plant seed oils are not "the cause" of "all modern disease."

If that was true, then ALL people who abstain from sugar and plant seed oils, would NOT have ANY modern diseases. Since SOME do, then your statement is false.

Posts that insist on absolutes (all, always, never, "the" instead of "a", none) are often (see what I did there?) hyperbole, rhetoric, and/or logical fallacies.

Italians have been enjoying sugary carb breakfasts for centuries, and "modern diseases" is not epidemic in Italy.

One might posit, instead, that OVEREATING sugar and plant seed oils CONTRIBUTES or CAN TRIGGER MANY modern diseases.

That is more likely to be true.

Per AI:
It's been noted that consuming sugar changes the brain and raise triglyceride levels.
Specifically, sugar consumption can affect dopamine levels, glucose levels, and neurotransmitters, leading to various effects on brain activity and mood.

Just eating sugary foods can indeed lead to increased cravings for more sugary items. This is due to several factors, including the brain's reward system and the way sugar affects blood sugar levels.

I would venture that consuming those two foods create more problem than not.

[Freeda]

Originally Posted by Michael 61

Depending on what your conditions, chronic issues are, yes!

I’m in my early 60s, and have take several meds for various conditions (high blood pressure, pre-diabetes, chronic inflammation, etc) since my 30s.

Doctors have never really discussed lifestyle changes with me, but have always been quick to prescribe meds to “mask” the symptoms.

I started researching my various conditions a few years back. I began to focus on diet (get rid of sugars, seed oils, processed foods, high-carb foods), began a focused exercise routine, brought weight down to a BMI of 22.5.

Today, is a red-letter day. I was told to get off my final med, as all my numbers are in very good to excellent range. No longer pre-diabetic. Cholesterol excellent. Blood pressure in very good range. Inflammation eliminated. Lots of energy, sleeping great. How many people in their early 60s can claim this!

I’m posting this as an encouragement to many out there that feel they will be on these meds for life. There is a way off for some. I realize that everyone’s situation is different, and some need to stay on their meds. But for others, there is a way off, through being laser-focused on diet/exercise/weight.

That's wonderful. I follow all of Dr. Steven Gundry MD's advice, including his 'yes/no' foods list, which has similarities to the food program you describe; and at 74 I, too, take no prescription drugs; I read his books, though I do not follow many of his numerous podcasts, just for lack of time. (I do take prescription eyedrops for my glaucoma, which is a genetic/inherited trait; but even that is improving, and my Dr. has taken me off one of the drops). I also take USANA, and have for 22 years; back in the early days of doing that, I saw my asthma/allergies and right knee problem - which was scheduled for surgery - all go away.
Yes, it is possible,at least from my and many others' experiences, to not need prescription drugs. Even Dr. Gundry discusses in his books the health problems that they have on our microbiome; the healthy maintenance of which is key to maintaining our overall health. Dr. Gundry frequently quotes Hippocrates, the ancient Greek physician, who said long ago, 'All disease starts in our gut'; the only difference is that Hippocrates' belief was based on intuition from what he observed; whereas today there is laboratory science to prove it to be true.

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Absolute nonsense, horsepucky, fake news, alt-med supplement advertising woo.

Sugar and plant seed oils are not "the cause" of "all modern disease."

If that was true, then ALL people who abstain from sugar and plant seed oils, would NOT have ANY modern diseases. Since SOME do, then your statement is false.

Posts that insist on absolutes (all, always, never, "the" instead of "a", none) are often (see what I did there?) hyperbole, rhetoric, and/or logical fallacies. Are you really going to posit a little bit of poison is good for you?

Italians have been enjoying sugary carb breakfasts for centuries, and "modern diseases" is not epidemic in Italy.

One might posit, instead, that OVEREATING sugar and plant seed oils CONTRIBUTES or CAN TRIGGER MANY modern diseases.

That is more likely to be true.

Alrighty then...LOL

Most Americans are now insulin resistant and at least pre-diabetic...What's causing that?
None of these modern diseases were around 100 years ago. Plant seed oil is probably the very worst.

Start by taking a look at the government "food pyramid" fraud.

Carbohydrates (especially Fructose) and unsaturated fats (such as linoleic acid) are metabolic toxins in Sapiens. Themsbe the medical facts. Are you really going to posit a little bit of poison is good for you? How about not much poison is not too bad for you?

There has never been a medical case attributed to a "carbohydrate deficiency". Not only are carbohydrates non-essential, they are metabolically toxic to humans. Two biggies that carbohydrates cause are diabetes and Dementia/Alzheimer's.