Is it possible to get off all prescription meds?

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Old 05-28-2025, 09:07 AM
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You seem to have missed the part where I cured my pre-diabetes, blood pressure, and cholesterol by ignoring at least 4 doctors in the past 15 years telling me to take pills and not even asking about my diet.

Assuming you are a doctor by your post, do you even read the answers to the "pre-physical questionnaire"? My doctors certainly didn't. They didn't even mention the fact I said I was drinking 8 -10 cocktails 3 nights per week. They never asked about my diet at all. They looked at test results and suggested pills. When all my test results were normal they still tried to put me on pills. So yeah, I don't trust your 11 years experience if that's what you are doing.

Do you have a criticism of my experience trying to find doctors? Can I interview you before I decide to see you?

Apart from that, and just so you know, I have a biology degree and I've worked in big pharma for 29 years. I have been in QA for the past 15 years. I also audit our CMOs and our suppliers for cGMPs. I am responsible for FDA audit handling every time we get audited. So you can put all your laughing emojis and think that speaking down to me from a "position of authority" somehow makes your answers more correct, but you would be mistaken.
Actually, I would not be mistaken, and if you wish to compare curriculum vitae, you will lose badly: btw, ONE of my degrees is in biology as well. Big deal. Glad you cured yourself by ignoring doctors, but that's a life and death game you will eventually lose. Also, that is 40 years experience, not to mention all the other awards, degrees and faculty appointments. But I do agree that the first thing to address would be 30+ cocktails/week. Certainly a bigger concern than seed oils or Gundry garbage. Also eliminating that amount of ETOH is most likely the reason for your improvement, but feel free to stay off "seed oils" as well.
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Old 05-28-2025, 10:10 AM
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Drinking 8-10 cocktails 3X per week is an unbelievable amount of booze and if you got in a car would certainly be DUI material. Just quitting this alcoholic level of drinking may be the main reason for your health improvement. Going with all the current health fads and changing many things you eat may also have helped. These are all anecdotal comments, all based on a study of one. It would never qualify in the least as a serious analysis as too many variables were changed at once. Hey if you feel good and you like what you are doing, keep it up, but don’t in any way think this is good medical advice. You are not a scientist, you are not a health professional and you are not a licensed physician. Your views are a layman’s analysis of his own health, useful for you, but probably not for the general public.
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Actually, I would not be mistaken, and if you wish to compare curriculum vitae, you will lose badly: btw, ONE of my degrees is in biology as well. Big deal. Glad you cured yourself by ignoring doctors, but that's a life and death game you will eventually lose. Also, that is 40 years experience, not to mention all the other awards, degrees and faculty appointments. But I do agree that the first thing to address would be 30+ cocktails/week. Certainly a bigger concern than seed oils or Gundry garbage. Also eliminating that amount of ETOH is most likely the reason for your improvement, but feel free to stay off "seed oils" as well.
You miss my point entirely. I do not wish to compare cv's. I was pointing out that your CV doesn't make you an expert on anything. It seems to me you are saying that I should have listened to my doctors, took the pills, and continued my lifestyle of drinking and eating sugar, and carbs.

I did quit the drinking to a great degree but that isn't what cured me. I was still 240 lbs at 6' tall. I went on keto diet and in 4 weeks my BP went to 140/90 from around 170/110. My A1C went from 5.7 to 5.0. I lost 30 lbs in that month alone. My triglycerides were incredibly reduced and my total cholesterol was under 200. But my doctor still suggested statins because statins are good.

Well I can't really say what I think of doctors that are pushing pills instead of asking about diet and lifestyle but it wouldn't be pleasant. My mom suffered a stroke and has been suffering with severe dementia for over 10 years. She has zero quality of life and only after her stroke did we find out the doctors, with all their awards and incredible resumes, had her on 8 different pills. About 3 of them were for blood pressure and she had low blood pressure. I sit her hoping my mom will die so she can stop suffering and I blame the doctors. Again, all of my doctors have only suggested pills and nothing more. So I hope you are a good doctor. If you are then you are in the minority. But based on your attitude, because of your CV, I get the feeling you are just another pill pusher.
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And by the way, this first pic is me on doctor's advice (only pic I could find) and then today on keto diet.
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You miss my point entirely. I do not wish to compare cv's. I was pointing out that your CV doesn't make you an expert on anything. It seems to me you are saying that I should have listened to my doctors, took the pills, and continued my lifestyle of drinking and eating sugar, and carbs.

I did quit the drinking to a great degree but that isn't what cured me. I was still 240 lbs at 6' tall. I went on keto diet and in 4 weeks my BP went to 140/90 from around 170/110. My A1C went from 5.7 to 5.0. I lost 30 lbs in that month alone. My triglycerides were incredibly reduced and my total cholesterol was under 200. But my doctor still suggested statins because statins are good.

Well I can't really say what I think of doctors that are pushing pills instead of asking about diet and lifestyle but it wouldn't be pleasant. My mom suffered a stroke and has been suffering with severe dementia for over 10 years. She has zero quality of life and only after her stroke did we find out the doctors, with all their awards and incredible resumes, had her on 8 different pills. About 3 of them were for blood pressure and she had low blood pressure. I sit her hoping my mom will die so she can stop suffering and I blame the doctors. Again, all of my doctors have only suggested pills and nothing more. So I hope you are a good doctor. If you are then you are in the minority. But based on your attitude, because of your CV, I get the feeling you are just another pill pusher.
I think you may have missed my point as well.
First of all, I AM an expert in Internal Medicine. Every degree, every title, every award and even the court system of NY State acknowledges that I AM AN EXPERT. PERIOD. NO DEBATE. NO QUESTION about it.
Second, I never advocated 30+ cocktails/week. Nor excessive sugar. But you will never convince me that your significant improvement had anything to do with seed oils and not losing 30 pounds and 30 cocktails. If you think so, you are deluding yourself
Third, there are well defined criteria for which patients should be prescribed statins. If you meet those criteria, your physician will want you to take them. That does not make him a "pill pusher"
Fourth, I read your mom's story differently. It appears you think she had a stroke because of 8 different pills; more likely it was in spite of them. Yet you are hell bent on blaming "doctors".
Fifth, "good doctors" ARE NOT "the minority", despite anecdotal social media posts
Lastly, for those who think doctors are greedy. only out to make money, and get kickbacks from pharmaceutical companies, think again. Nobody goes into medicine to get rich--an MBA is much more valuable and takes less effort. The hours are long, the liability is outrageous, and the overhead enormous. And if drug companies give kickbacks, I must have been on vacation when they offered.
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And by the way, this first pic is me on doctor's advice (only pic I could find) and then today on keto diet.
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Now that is great. Congratulations!!. But again, everything to do with losing the weight and excessive alcohol and nothing to do with "seed oils"
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