[La lamy]

Originally Posted by Wyseguy

My favorite part of those ads is when they are pushing a "NEW" drug. Lets call it abivol. In the warnings they say "Don't take abivol if you are allergic of have harmful reaction to Abivol". How would one know?

Also, interesting how meds for something non life threatening as psoriasis has side effects that include cancers, and suicidal tendencies.

I know! Those warnings are so dire. Yikes.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Pinball wizard

Virtually every drug OTC or prescription has multiple contraindications. Just read the list for everything you take. That's why Dr.'s have the PDR to reference. For example take a look at glipizide/metformin hydrochloride. Glipizide and Metformin Hydrochloride (glipizide/metformin hydrochloride) dose, indications, adverse effects, interactions... from PDR.net

I think contraindications should have a dash somewhere in the middle. Irregardless of that think it is not really a word.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

I think contraindications should have a dash somewhere in the middle. Irregardless of that think it is not really a word.

Don't know if you are kidding or not, but it is definitely a word, no hyphen.

A contraindication is a specific situation in which a drug, procedure, or surgery should not be used because it may be harmful to the person.

contraindicate - Google Search

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Don't know if you are kidding or not, but it is definitely a word, no hyphen.

A contraindication is a specific situation in which a drug, procedure, or surgery should not be used because it may be harmful to the person.

contraindicate - Google Search

Was kidding, Pinball is a good friend.

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Really??? And your basis for this ridiculous statement is???????

Now for reality: Pharmaceutical reps are limited to handing out pens with their drug name on it and a meal if it is associated with an educational event. The days of "vacation junkets" ended in the 80's as a result of federal legislation. The ultimate hypocrisy of that legislation was that the bill was signed by the late Sen. Ted Kennedy while on a "vacation junket" skiing in the Alps courtesy of US Steel. As far as our group went, we didn't even talk to drug reps. And may I assume that part of that post was based on that TV show about oxycodone, which stretched the truth to the point of absurdity?

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Hmmm----perhaps the bill died in committee. Perhaps you know since you appear to have definitive knowledge on the subject. I didn't "google" it, all I know is what multiple drug reps told me AT THAT TIME. Were you there?????

golfing eagles, OK, which one is it? You never saw drug reps? Or multiple drug reps told you all about it?

And, btw, I was there.

Boomer

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

You got post-it notes???????

Now I'm jealous. It's like a "vacation junket", only different

Must have been my "boyish good looks"... The reps were sweet on me...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I never said he signed it into law or voted on the final version. To introduce a bill into the senate or house requires the signature of one or more members, that is what he signed, a preliminary only. I don't know what other legislation and recommendations regarding pharmaceutical "gifts" followed in later years, but this bill introduced by Kennedy was the first I know about. Perhaps it is faulty cause-effect reasoning as well, but I never got more than a pen after 1990. Apparently, some lucky people got post-it notes as well

Shush already! I don't need the Feds coming after me for post-it notes!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Was kidding, Pinball is a good friend.

"Irregardless", on the other hand...

[Pinball wizard]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

I think contraindications should have a dash somewhere in the middle. Irregardless of that think it is not really a word.

Irregardless - Definition, Meaning & Synonyms | Vocabulary.com
Contraindication Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

Just saw your kidding post. Should have used a smiley!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Boomer

golfing eagles, OK, which one is it? You never saw drug reps? Or multiple drug reps told you all about it?

And, btw, I was there.

Boomer

Never saw them to allow them to "push" their drugs, but certainly would have conversation. Heck, one of my best friends is a rep. And if you were there, you should know exactly what I was talking about. Or perhaps you were lucky enough to get post-it notes as well

[thevillages2013]

What kills me is they slip in there “this medication may cause weight loss”. What’s the reason for that except to make someone want to try it?

[Zenmama18]

Originally Posted by La lamy

Well that's a great story! Happy to hear prescription meds worked so well for such an insidiously unhealthy habit. A 3 week behaviour modification course from the Lung Association in Canada helped me quit 19 years ago. Best thing I ever gave up, that's for sure.

All it took for my husband to quit was a heart attack and quadruple bypass surgery. But he made it and quit cold turkey and hasn't looked back.

[La lamy]

Originally Posted by Zenmama18

All it took for my husband to quit was a heart attack and quadruple bypass surgery. But he made it and quit cold turkey and hasn't looked back.

Wow, yea that sure is a wake up call. My dad finally went to get checked out when they discovered arteries were 97% clogged up. He just missed out on a heart attack, had the quadruple bypass and stopped smoking too.

[krick093]

Originally Posted by La lamy

I find TV ads about prescription drugs quite disturbing. The crazy long list of side effects included in these ads are such a turn off while watching TV. In Canada, direct-to-consumer advertising of prescription drugs is prohibited as a health protection measure. Manufacturers cannot advertise prescription-only drugs directly to the public because of their toxicity and the potential for harm from medically unnecessary or inappropriate use.
For me, I assume my doctor is the professional who will know what meds are appropriate for me. So my question to you is: has anyone ever gone to their doctor and tell them they want a certain drug they saw on TV?

It's called creating pull demand for new drugs and they'll keep doing it as long as it works well enough to justify the marketing expense. Personally I don't think they should be allowed to market direct to consumers. Save that money and reduce the price of the drugs when they first come to market.

[Sandy and Ed]

most of those pharm reps I saw bumping me from my appointment by sashaying right into the md’s office were darn good looking gals carrying trim brief cases and candy for the md’s receptionist (who they called by first name).