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I am looking for opinions from doctors as to why there is no cure for cancer. I have read (have NO links nor dates) the following: that it could be because the research is limited to a certain type of research, limiting think-outside-the-box research; also that pharmacology is a strong lobby against research.

I'm looking for opinions from professionals. Tx for any responses.
Read articles from Plant Base doctors on cancer also there is a 9 part series on YouTube “The Truth about Cancer”
Can help you understand....the “Why’s “
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I think that would be a pretty big secret to keep for decades but I'm no doctor...... although I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Not really.....if you think the medical field especially big Pharma does not keep secrets.....I have some very nice land I am selling
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I would encourage everyone who is diagnosed with any type of cancer to do all they can to learn as much as possible about your specific disease. Your doctor will only recommend treatment that he has direct knowledge about or that his practice has made investments in. I am a cancer survivor two years and counting. I read over 40 books, got three opinions, and studied it until I knew everything a lay person could know. I chose my own treatment. Even after my local doctor told me not to. He was recommending surgery and when I refused that he then recommended radiation. But the radiation he wanted me to have was IMHO not the correct type. His practice had made an investment in a 4 million $$$ radiation machine that they claimed was the very best solution for my type cancer. I rejected chemo, I rejected surgery and chose radiation. But not the Photon he recommended. I chose Proton radiation. A much better targeted radiation. I had to live out of the area for 8 weeks and it cost me extra money but today I am still cancer free with zero side effects.

Learn all you can, get multiple opinions, and follow the money. As the OP was questioning, your doctor may not have or even know your best option.
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I would encourage everyone who is diagnosed with any type of cancer to do all they can to learn as much as possible about your specific disease. Your doctor will only recommend treatment that he has direct knowledge about or that his practice has made investments in. I am a cancer survivor two years and counting. I read over 40 books, got three opinions, and studied it until I knew everything a lay person could know. I chose my own treatment. Even after my local doctor told me not to. He was recommending surgery and when I refused that he then recommended radiation. But the radiation he wanted me to have was IMHO not the correct type. His practice had made an investment in a 4 million $$$ radiation machine that they claimed was the very best solution for my type cancer. I rejected chemo, I rejected surgery and chose radiation. But not the Photon he recommended. I chose Proton radiation. A much better targeted radiation. I had to live out of the area for 8 weeks and it cost me extra money but today I am still cancer free with zero side effects.

Learn all you can, get multiple opinions, and follow the money. As the OP was questioning, your doctor may not have or even know your best option.
I think that when you are diagnosed with cancer, go to the facility with availability to latest research and ties to a teaching Hospital. One of our neighbors was diagnosed with Breast Cancer the same time as daughter Helene was, some years ago. She came to our home saying she had researched it and that she was going to Mexico to receive a new and different treatment not available in the U.S. She wanted for us to take Helene. Helene opted for the mastectomy, and a very strong chemo and radiation combination that had done well in Italy on young women suggested by the team of Oncologists in Cincinnati. (It was in found in eleven nodes) Helene survived and my neighbor did not.
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I believe there has been a cure for decades, but there’s no money in a cure. Big pharma makes billions off cancer patients....IMO
If there was a cure, they would provide it and it would cost you a huge amount of money. Consider Mavyret or one of the other hepatitus C "cures" like Epclusa. Anything the provides a sustained virologic response, i.e. a cure.

When this new class of drugs appeared on the scene, treatment was 100k.

Now, while still extremely expensive, the hep c drugs are probably 1/3rd the original cost.

There are a lot of people working on curing cancer, the problem is that cancer isn't just cancer. Each type of cancer is different and even each treatment can be patient specific. I know someone that is working on a treatment that is built on your own genome. You get a shot in the gut to extract stem cells, they build a treatment based on your own stem cells, shoot it back in you and the cancer goes away. It seems to work in mice, and ultimately this type of approach may bear the best fruit. Every treatment tailored for the individual.

There is also the anthelmintic class of drugs that has anecdotally been shown to work in some people against lung and gastric cancer. There needs to be a lot of study done on this though. If nothing else, since small cell lung cancer has such a poor survival rate, one would think that it'd be easy to get volunteers for a study on these drugs.

To the larger point I'll leave you with this quote:

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

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Wow what interesting responses you will have. I think the best one so far is that it's partially genetics and partially lifestyle we all know of the diseases that only certain ethnicities get. Tay-sachs is one of them. We all know African Americans are more problematic with high blood pressure for some reason. That all being said cancer itself is not just one disease if you really understand cancer you will note that each part of the body that some doctor will tell you is cancerous is it totally different disease from every other part. i. E. Liver versus lung versus skin cancer.speaking of which skin cancer is easily avoidable by covering up wearing long hats if you're outside a lot sunglasses for your eyes and skin creams to avoid tanning I have a relative who used to love this s*** outside by the pool and his head has developed many skin lesions which have been taken off. I don't know if we will really ever have a true preventative measure for cancer, but there are some wonderful drugs and treatments now. I can only recommend if you want to live long and prosper. At the very least get blood tests for cholesterol and diabetes yearly, ladies have your breast checked with mammograms and do self checks while you're in the shower. Eat less meat more fruit and vegetables and walk a little more than you're doing. I myself have always had a weight problem and I'm doing my best to lose the pounds. It is actually very easy to stop eating the meat everyday and have more fish and chicken as well as salads. Good luck to adventurous commentator who started.
This thread with finding some answers, you should really do some research on Google and the internet as well as right to the American Cancer society
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I am looking for opinions from doctors as to why there is no cure for cancer. I have read (have NO links nor dates) the following: that it could be because the research is limited to a certain type of research, limiting think-outside-the-box research; also that pharmacology is a strong lobby against research.

I'm looking for opinions from professionals. Tx for any responses.


Cancer is the name of many disorders resulting from mutation of genetic material. There are cures for some cancers, impressive progress for others but many that continue to defy treatment.
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I am looking for opinions from doctors as to why there is no cure for cancer. I have read (have NO links nor dates) the following: that it could be because the research is limited to a certain type of research, limiting think-outside-the-box research; also that pharmacology is a strong lobby against research.

I'm looking for opinions from professionals. Tx for any responses.
Lack of a cure is intentional.

This doctor and scientist tells the truth - the WHOLE truth. I've read her books.

Amazon.com

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NIH, HHS, WHO, "Saint" Anthony Fauci are all corrupt liars. They have an industry to protect and will not allow anything to disrupt it. If you google "Judy Mikovits" you will see nothing except that her science is "fake" and "discredited". But, read her story. The discrediting did not start UNTIL she discovered things that would destroy the medical and pharma industries.
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Everytime I hear someone say this or I read it, I could bite. There is no one in "Big Pharma" which by the way is the business and industry that researches and manufactures medicines to help us stay well and get well, there is no person who works in the large pharmaceutical companies that do not have someone or someones who have had cancer and someone who has died from cancer, among the people they care about or in their families. The stuff that Oncologist's prescribe for cancer are not on a long, long, list. They are the chemo's that kill cells and cancer at the same time, and just about kill you. ASK ME WHY I KNOW. There are anti-nausea drugs and steroids, but certainly not a huge list of "medicines" that are the center of their business. The highest selling drugs are Statins and they are worth their weight in gold. They have greatly reduced death by heart disease since they were introduced.

In my opinion what you said IS A DUMB CONSPIRACY THEORY......based on the real fact that Pharmacy manufacturers do charge very high prices. BUT they have the gold. And we need the gold. Wish I knew how to fix this so prices are more affordable, but people who work in this industry ARE NOT EVIL. AND they are not keeping the cures for the dozens of diseases all listed under the heading of cancer. Some do have prevention now. Pre-adolescents can be vaccinated against the virus that causes Cervical and ovarian cancer. Hodgkin's Lymphoma has some life saving treatments. Breast Cancer Survivors are increasing. Cancer is a number of different diseases and I believe how to stop them rests in Genetic Research. Your children will live to see them vanquished and we can than thank the people who have invested so much money in research.
Fixing prices is perhaps a spin on communist thought acceptance. The result is always shortage and lack of innovation.

A recent example was the joining of communist East Germany with West Germany.
I was in the photo industry. East Germany was still producing cameras that were designed around WWII. They were made with fine materials, they were very cheap.
It was rare to have one that worked. Quality control was non-existent and they were
dirty inside along with other problems. They also made high silver photographic papers again price was good, quality we inconsistent. When the two countries re-united there were protests in West Germany due fear of the influx of skilled cheap labor.

Our lowered quality of healthcare often mentioned in the Villages is in part due to medicare price fixing. Medicare decided your doctor must see 4 patients an hour.
That is 15 minutes each. You say hello and have used up a large percentage of the time. My doctor only is familiar with what medicare will cover. The latest, study, radical, at least right now, care is not available to you, unless you pay for it. Medicare will not.
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Wow what interesting responses you will have. I think the best one so far is that it's partially genetics and partially lifestyle we all know of the diseases that only certain ethnicities get. Tay-sachs is one of them. We all know African Americans are more problematic with high blood pressure for some reason. That all being said cancer itself is not just one disease if you really understand cancer you will note that each part of the body that some doctor will tell you is cancerous is it totally different disease from every other part. i. E. Liver versus lung versus skin cancer.speaking of which skin cancer is easily avoidable by covering up wearing long hats if you're outside a lot sunglasses for your eyes and skin creams to avoid tanning I have a relative who used to love this s*** outside by the pool and his head has developed many skin lesions which have been taken off. I don't know if we will really ever have a true preventative measure for cancer, but there are some wonderful drugs and treatments now. I can only recommend if you want to live long and prosper. At the very least get blood tests for cholesterol and diabetes yearly, ladies have your breast checked with mammograms and do self checks while you're in the shower. Eat less meat more fruit and vegetables and walk a little more than you're doing. I myself have always had a weight problem and I'm doing my best to lose the pounds. It is actually very easy to stop eating the meat everyday and have more fish and chicken as well as salads. Good luck to adventurous commentator who started.
This thread with finding some answers, you should really do some research on Google and the internet as well as right to the American Cancer society
Much of the information we have is distorted by politically correct.

It was noticed that survival for blacks with aids, in Africa was far higher than average.
Looking for a cure, a why, it was discovered that there is a simple reason for this surprise. There is international money to cover care for aids. People with other diseases would regularly be reported as having aids so that the medical people could be paid.

We are ex-Long Islanders. Long Island has a high incidence of breast cancer. A rumor took hold. Perhaps closer to the truth, a panic took hold that it was/is due to the above ground power lines or the water. The politically corrected, buried reality. Long Island has a higher than normal percentage of Eastern European women and they are more subject to breast cancer.
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Lack of a cure is intentional.

This doctor and scientist tells the truth - the WHOLE truth. I've read her books.

Amazon.com

Amazon.com

NIH, HHS, WHO, "Saint" Anthony Fauci are all corrupt liars. They have an industry to protect and will not allow anything to disrupt it. If you google "Judy Mikovits" you will see nothing except that her science is "fake" and "discredited". But, read her story. The discrediting did not start UNTIL she discovered things that would destroy the medical and pharma industries.
Throughout history that has always been so. Everyone knows the earth is flat and the planets revolve around the earth. If, you think different you will be put on the rack till you
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I wish they would find a cure. We have the ability to do so. If we can do what we are doing in outer space especially now on Mars we should be able to solve and resolve anything!!
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Do you see a Doctor at least once a year and have blood drawn? If so, has your doctor prescribed medications and you decided not to take them?
Yes indeed. I get yearly comprehensive blood work done followed by physician conducted checkups. I hate the old fashioned prostate check. Ugh! I do take some over the counter nutritional supplements recommended by a "stay healthy" physician, vitamins minerals and such. My personal physician has told me I do not need any blood pressure, cholesterol or other medication and has not prescribed any for me. If he had I would be taking them. I am now paying United healthcare about $90/mo for Rx insurance but have only had to use it for an antibiotic or the like on occasion. Frankly, I hope I never have to use it although if I live long enough I likely will.

Oh, I nearly forgot. I did have a melanoma on my head six years ago. Had the Mohs procedure and followups by an oncologist for five years. I see a dermatologist quarterly. I lived at a swimming pool growing up and lifeguarded while in college. All this was in the desert southwest over 5,000 feet above sea level. The sun was strong and out almost all the time. I got lots of UV and did not use any sun block as this was all before 1963.
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There are a host of lack of facts regarding cancer and as a result there are many unfounded rumors which lead to misunderstandings. Today a company is currently using the tissue from cancer surgery to determine the patient DNA history and develop a very specific drug to attack a type and form of a specific cancer. This is on going at Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville Fl. (Mayo saves tissue from surgery for 10 years in order to farm different methods types and form of cancer.!) There is a drug administered by shots that has been very successful in treating breast cancer. The protocol is two shots at same time once a month. The normal charge for this is about $90K a year which Medicare has agreed to absorb and pay. In 1975 Hogkins was treatable with high doses of radiation and today the survival rate is very high. This just a taste of what is going on in the cancer treatment field. A fundamental problem is that cancer is not a single cell,
tissue, etc and there are many many different types and forms of cancer/tissue. In addition cancer can and is triggered by the enviorement, chemical's , and a person's
living conditions/choices. Before commenting on cancer and treatments and advances it is pointless unless you do your research and study each cancer not as a general statement but specific to a cancer type and form.
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