[dbussone]

Originally Posted by 784caroline

Certainly glad you made through this incident BUT 30 minute response time....not acceptable. The 6 minute PR response time is a "mean" average that excludes abnormalities such as this. Thats fine as long as you or I are not the person waiting for an EMT.



Highly suggest you contact Chief Cain to find out what really happened that resulted in a delayed response ! He can then add the findings to his collection to improve things.

If you were to go back a few posts you would learn the following:
1 there was not a 30 minute response time.
2 initially CPR/AED trained individuals reacted to the event
3 TVPSD first responders (EMTs) arrived within their 6 minute average
4 the standard process is for TVPSD to provide immediate care, drugs, stabilizing treatment
5 after the patient is stable & able to be transported, an ambulance is used to transport the patient to the hospital
6 the initial civilian response, and immediate response by TVPSD, are crucial to successful recovery
7 step 6 occurred as perfectly as it could have been
8 the patient appears to be doing well, as a result of step 6
9 the OP didn't have accurate information at all



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[dbussone]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Excellent to hear you are doing well!



Not that it really matters in the big scheme of things (you surviving is the most important), but conflicting posts have me confused.



Did it in fact take the 'professionals' 30 minutes to get there while other Villagers took care of you, or were there other 'professional' first responders there in 6 minutes...and it was only the ambulance that took 30 minutes to arrive?



Anyway, once again it doesn't really matter as you being well enough to come on here and post...is all that really matters.

please reread all the posts to note that the response time was 6 minutes, not 30; the OP didn't have a clue what happened.
TVPSD EMTs are the first responders. The provide treatment, drugs, care and stabilize the patient. Once stabilized the patient is transported by a secondarily called ambulance.


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[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by dbussone

If you were to go back a few posts you would learn the following:
1 there was not a 30 minute response time.
2 initially CPR/AED trained individuals reacted to the event
3 TVPSD first responders (EMTs) arrived within their 6 minute average
4 the standard process is for TVPSD to provide immediate care, drugs, stabilizing treatment
5 after the patient is stable & able to be transported, an ambulance is used to transport the patient to the hospital
6 the initial civilian response, and immediate response by TVPSD, are crucial to successful recovery
7 step 6 occurred as perfectly as it could have been
8 the patient appears to be doing well, as a result of step 6
9 the OP didn't have accurate information at all

So in other words, the EMT's (professionals) arrived within 6 minutes...but not by ambulance?

I wasn't aware that we had EMT's that didn't have ambulances.

Learn something new every day.

[twoplanekid]

From previous posts ->
Please reread all the posts to note that the response time was 6 minutes, not 30; the OP didn't have a clue what happened.
I wasn't aware that we had EMT's that didn't have ambulances.


So, while EMT’s were there in 6 minutes, the patient had to wait another 20 or so minutes for the ambulance to arrive for transportation to the hospital. In Urbana, the fire department ambulance arrives with EMT’s to immediately transport one to a medical facility.

Which system is best? Is cost an overriding factor?

[HMLRHT1]

The Villages Fire Dept or better known as TVPSD has every vehicle staffed with Paramedics and EMTs. They provide advanced life support upon arrival. This generally takes 6 mins or so. The ambulance is also staffed with a Paramedic and an EMT. The ambulances don't have fixed stations and at times have to come from the far side or outside TV. Usually it is TVPSD who arrives first with all the needed equipment and training. Regardless, whoever gets there first starts treatment on the patient. Treatment on scene is the most important time for a victim such as myself or other medical issues and most accidents except level 1 trauma victims. It is rare that ambulances do a " load and go "

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by dbussone

please reread all the posts to note that the response time was 6 minutes, not 30; the OP didn't have a clue what happened.
TVPSD EMTs are the first responders. The provide treatment, drugs, care and stabilize the patient.

Thanks for finding out the facts.
It's good to know that EMTs were on the scene within six minutes.

[outlaw]

Never heard of an EMT showing up without an ambulance or a fire engine. I read in the DS that the average response time in TV was something like 2 or 3 minutes. Why 6 minutes to 30 minutes?

[RickeyD]

Been watching this post befuddled as to what the OP stated. I'm so glad the truth came out and I won't have to sell my house.

[Villager Joyce]

Originally Posted by goodtimesintv

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I hope from seeing these reports, that residents too cheap to contribute a few bucks a year--to their neighborhood, volunteer AED equipment, responder training and dispatch costs--wake up and see that the fire department amubulances could be out on other calls already. This is why the dozens of effective neighborhood AED groups have been formed, and why the survival rate here in TV is much higher than anywhere else!

I would like to respond to your comments on "...residents too cheap". If someone specifically made that statement to you, then respond to that person. Don't lump in others. tbere are recent widows who are scared to death they can't afford to live here. Not cheap. Scared. There are grandparents who have had to take on the task of raising grandchildren because of family dynamics. There are recent retirees who are earning to balance miney in and money out. There are people who were just diagnosed with a disease and they don't know what tbe cost will do to their budget. There are many reasons why people can't pay. How dare you suggest it is cheapness on their part. Sometimes it us, but your generalization is highly offensive. Again, if someone tells you they are too cheap, grow some and discuss it face to face. Don't generalize and profile others into that category.

[RickeyD]

Some people simply are cheap. I had a rotten fence come down so I asked my adjoining neighbor to chip in. He refused, so I removed the fence without replacing it. Within 3 weeks he put up a new fence at his expense. I didn't feel compelled to offer any money.

[CFrance]

I do believe it was about 6 minutes for the EMTs to arrive at our house last month (everything is fine; good outcome). However, when playing pickleball at Hibiscus last fall, it took a half-hour for them to arrive to assist a player who was fainting. We could hear the sirens coming and going, but they had trouble locating Hibiscus courts. There is no phone at the courts, and the rec center is across busy Bailey Trail and a parking lot. The group had called on their cell phones, which is understandable given the distance to the rec center, and finally had to call again and talk the ambulance in.

Now I'm thinking Duh, there is a starter shack by the tennis courts that probably has a land line. You see what happens to your logical thinking during an emergency...

[pooh]

Have had 4 occasions dealing with 911 calls. Two times for a family member here in TV, the other two times, cardiac arrests for our street's AED alert system. Each time, fire dept vehicles with EMT's arrived extremely quickly. All events took place on my street. Ambulance arrived shortly afterwards. All responders were fast, professional, caring.

My house backs to Morse Blvd and each and every day I can see and hear ambulances, fire trucks, going to and from the fire station. What is troubling is watching cars not give the Emergency vehicle clear passage. Oh I imagine sometimes the traffic may prevent someone from pulling over quickly, but most of the time, that doesn't seem to be the case. Emergency vehicles must make additional siren blasts to get cars in front of them to move. Crossing the bridge and a couple of traffic circles can slow down a large vehicle without additional traffic, it is so much slower when waiting for vehicles to get out of the way.
There will be delays, sadly, getting emergency personnel to the emergency sometimes. This community has many fire stations, many EMTs, AED devices located in neighborhoods, community facilities....much more than many other locations for responders, stations, EMT professionals. Doesn't hurt to take a CPR course, it's great to have AED's in your neighborhood. Pay if you can, don't pay if that's your preference. If you are in need of AED intervention, I'm sure neighborhood responders don't check a list to see if you've contributed. If you have, good, you've done something helpful for your fellow man. If you haven't, well, who are we to judge.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by HMLRHT1

The Villages Fire Dept or better known as TVPSD has every vehicle staffed with Paramedics and EMTs. They provide advanced life support upon arrival. This generally takes 6 mins or so. The ambulance is also staffed with a Paramedic and an EMT. The ambulances don't have fixed stations and at times have to come from the far side or outside TV. Usually it is TVPSD who arrives first with all the needed equipment and training. Regardless, whoever gets there first starts treatment on the patient. Treatment on scene is the most important time for a victim such as myself or other medical issues and most accidents except level 1 trauma victims. It is rare that ambulances do a " load and go "

Thanks for correct information. Most don't realize first responders role. As one who has been involved with numerous CPR events, 6 minute window is a gift for those performing CPR.

[Matzy]

nkrifats explained it correctly. The ambulances are usually dispatched from the next AVIABLE station, but when they are in use at that time, the next closest to the emergency place ambulance will get the call. Unfortunately, sometimes (pretty often) non of the ambulance are available when needed right away (loading/unloading patients, emergency somewhere, cleaning/disinfection, etc.). Sometimes, there are just not enough ambulances around. I could tell stories about how difficult it could be (or it is)...... I worked voluntarily 25 years in EMS.

[twoplanekid]

As TV has very unique demographics and as TV has a tremendous growth rate, I assume and hope that private ambulance providers are able to keep up with the needs of this community. I understand that we are fortunate to have many locals with training and a good TVPSD.

In addition to our local fire department ambulances in Ohio, we have Care Flight helicopters operating out of our local airport for transportation. While I understand that initial stabilization of the patient is very important, I don’t want to be able to read a book before taken to a hospital for further treatment.

As I haven’t found data to say for sure one way or the other, quick transportation to a hospital may or may not be an issue. If needed, I hope it isn't.