[Altavia]

Keep in mind those who refuse the vaccine effectively have a 95% higher risk of transmitting disease.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Robbie0723

Keep in mind those who refuse the vaccine effectively have a 95% higher risk of transmitting disease.

True, BUT only if they have been exposed to the virus. The chances of being around someone that is infected is? And then the chances of you carrying the virus after being exposed to it is? Most of us have not been around anyone that had the virus in the past year. Of course, it is what it is. Those of us with the vaccination can feel confident that we will survive the pandemic, whereas those that refuse the vaccination will have to constantly be on the defensive about how they live a limited lifestyle. They will undoubtedly be alarmed if someone coughs around them or seems a bit feverish. Not a fun way to live.

[PersonalChoice]

Only healthy people were recruited for CV-19 vaccine trials? Animal testing was halted because the animals were dying? Also, pharmaceutical companies are given immunity from any possible adverse side effects including death? I think I'll wait awhile longer.

[terrild53]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Utube for medical advice, or explanation, is there a office visit charge? Sorry I listen to the 6 medical professionals who actually know me, and can give professional advice, on facts of the patient, not a general analogy. Most who are refusing are medical professionals themselves.

I agree that people should get their medical questions answered by Doctors, Nurse Practitioners or Physician Assistants and not the internet or You Tube. Medical providers go to college& med school for years, we spend time, years, training in hospitals, clinics & with Private physicians to learn all we can about providing medical care for our patients. When people believe their “internet education” over what we qualified providers know & have experience dealing with is an insult. There is so much misinformation out there. Talk with a qualified medical professional and get the true facts.

[terrild53]

However, if the person or people someone is around had asymptomatic Covid, then those unvaccinated folks can and do get exposed. People think because they have not had symptoms of illness that they are fine is a fallacy. I personally have chosen to get the vaccine to reduce my risk of getting ill. But it is not a guarantee due to
the variants out there. Being cautious is still recommended.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by oneclickplus

Dr. Kirsten Lyke ... from the video ... referring to side effects:

"in general, it's nothing to fear. It's our own immune systems kicking in and doing what it's supposed to do".

Well, everyone's immune system kicks in and does what it's supposed to do WITHOUT getting an mRNA shot (not a vaccine).

Not getting the shot (not a vaccine) ever. It's not a matter of how safe it is or how effective it is. It is a matter of a free American making a personal choice that is no one else's business.

Sounds more like a Religious call. I am a "free American making a personal choice" and I am getting the shots to protect my spouse. Even though I am a Free American, I had little choice in this matter. The protection of my spouse is more important than posturing on principle. It really IS your choice, but saying one is a "free American" and that is your choice, is redundant. WE are all "free Americans" and we are using scientific evidence and stats to justify giving a minute amount of trust to the gov. Remember, we ARE the government technically. Your statement that our immune system will fight the virus is correct to a certain extent. Younger folks have an immunity system that can cope with the dangerous virus, but as you get older, not so much. I consider myself in good condition when it comes to immunity. I don't catch the flu and I don't get the flu shot. However, right now I do not consider the flu to be life threatening to my spouse. Dangerous, maybe. The virus on the other hand, would likely be deadly to my spouse. I am using my common sense and science to make the decision to get my COVID shots to protect the ones I care for. I doubt it would kill me, but it might kill them. I would have a hard time explaining to my kids how my "freedom" was more important than their mother. I may not like the idea of having a foreign substance injected into my body, but I am reasoning that even with the odds of me ever catching the virus is on my side, this shot will hedge my bet even more.
Your choice. I am just giving my reasoning for why I am getting the shot. No one is forcing you to get the shot. That is your "freedom." Our government is not insisting anyone get the shot. They are OFFERING the shot to you. I don't blame you for being hesitant of gov. motivations. On the other hand, are you hesitant when it comes to taking their COVID relief checks? Do you also refuse those, base on your "free American" ideology?

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by Byte1

True, BUT only if they have been exposed to the virus. The chances of being around someone that is infected is? And then the chances of you carrying the virus after being exposed to it is? Most of us have not been around anyone that had the virus in the past year. Of course, it is what it is. Those of us with the vaccination can feel confident that we will survive the pandemic, whereas those that refuse the vaccination will have to constantly be on the defensive about how they live a limited lifestyle. They will undoubtedly be alarmed if someone coughs around them or seems a bit feverish. Not a fun way to live.

My comment was directed at medical workers refusing the vaccine adding risk to their patients.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Robbie0723

Keep in mind those who refuse the vaccine effectively have a 95% higher risk of transmitting disease.

BUT.......the scientists are still not sure if vaccinated people can still transmit the virus. This is the reason vaccinated people are told to continue to wear masks and social distance.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by PersonalChoice

Only healthy people were recruited for CV-19 vaccine trials? Animal testing was halted because the animals were dying? Also, pharmaceutical companies are given immunity from any possible adverse side effects including death? I think I'll wait awhile longer.

You do that. Hope you stay well.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by terrild53

I agree that people should get their medical questions answered by Doctors, Nurse Practitioners or Physician Assistants and not the internet or You Tube. Medical providers go to college& med school for years, we spend time, years, training in hospitals, clinics & with Private physicians to learn all we can about providing medical care for our patients. When people believe their “internet education” over what we qualified providers know & have experience dealing with is an insult. There is so much misinformation out there. Talk with a qualified medical professional and get the true facts.

Unless you feel the people in the video in the OP lied about their credentials, why not listen to what they have to say?

[flflowers]

Originally Posted by chet2020

mRNA is not a protein. The active ingredient in the vaccine is not a protein. But please, do tell the story of how the protein in the vaccine (that's not there) is somehow the exact same protein that placentas are created from (and that's assuming placentas consist of just one protein, which is false).

BTW, if you're 65+ years old, and you're main concern is how the vaccine might affect the placenta in case of pregnancy, call me reckless, but I'm going to say go ahead and get that vaccine.

I apologize for misquoting....mRNA "blocks" the protein that helps formation of human placenta.....

[Bay Kid]

I only know one person that died from taking the vaccine. I don't know anyone that died from the virus.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

I only know one person that died from taking the vaccine. I don't know anyone that died from the virus.

So sorry to hear that. I haven't read about any reported deaths directly attributed to the vaccine. Is this news that is being kept from the public?

[Mleechu333@gmail.com]

Ditto!
BTW, as of today, 2/17, is the Groveland vaccine site still giving second injections to first come, first serve patients?

[Bay Kid]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

So sorry to hear that. I haven't read about any reported deaths directly attributed to the vaccine. Is this news that is being kept from the public?

It was sad but now they are trying to say he wasn't healthy. Go tell.